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A loyal customer and player's perspctive: Imperial's passives, a major travesty.

rexagamemnon
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I hope that me "@-ing" does not misconstrued my intentions, I have not reached out to yours a means to attack you or insult or protest in childish manners seen so often on the forum but to in the hopes of reaching you directly. I also would like to apologize for my poor writing skills as writing papers was never my strength in college. I have including you three specifically for multiple reasons. Of which include 1) The fact that two of you are most active in the community whether it is talking directly to costumes/players via the forums, or making major announcements for the ESO community. 2) all three of you are very high up within the chain of command at ZOS and I hope to reach to either of you directly to express my opinions on the matter. I am aware that none of you picked these passive changes because you simply wanted it that way, but instead moved forward with them based on the recommendations of your combat development teams and I understand that. it is more often wise to listen to your advisors, that is a principle of leadership and I do applaud who ever had the final say on the matter for putting such a principle of leadership into practice.
But onto the matter at hand, I am very impressed with the decisions made to balance the racial passives for game performance. after seeing many streamers and OP's show their findings on the passives I must say you guys did a heck of a job balancing the races except the Imperials, to understand why it is only right that I start in the begining.
I began my TES journey with Skyrim, my brother introduced me to TES:Skyrim in early 2012. I was hooked I couldn't get enough of TES series after that, it was by far the best game I had ever played at that point in my life. I got interested not just the games but even the lore behind it and I found myself reading the fan page wikis on all sorts of material in TES lore. I even managed to pick my favorite race in TES series, the Imperials, so much spoke to me about them, the connections with real world Imperial Rome: I had always been a roman history buff due to my Italian heritage. The imperials being modeled after the Romans were just so cool to me. The Lore behind them in TES story was just awesome to read about the fact that they are both warriors and great examples of battlemages. To me made Imperials were not just awesome due to the connections to my real world heritage but also that they were the best of both worlds between wanting to swing a sword and wanting to rain down fire from above on my enemies at the same time.
Time went by and I had beaten Skyrim a dozen times, and then came ESO. without a doubt my favorite game. ZOS had manage to combine awesome graphics, spectacular combat, near flawless character appearance customization, and the best storyline for a video game in probably 15 years all rolled up into one game. But at the time ESO came out it was only on computer, and I am horrible with key boards(clearly you know this already because you have been reading this) and at the time I couldn't afford a computer that could run ESO. but then ESO was launched on console, yet at the time I was still in college and still broke as a joke unable to purchase an XBOX1.
Then in December of 2015 I picked up a good job and the first thing I did was I bought an XBOX1 and ESO, I had waited long enough to play ESO. and I loved it, still to this day more than three years later I play it almost everyday, although not as much as I wish lately with my first child being born a couple of months ago. I loved ESO so much I purchased the Imperial upgrade so I could play as my favorite race in the game, and not long after that I subscribed to ESO plus and would often buy crowns. I estimate I have purchase crowns in addition to ESO plus and all the Chapters around 5 times a year. if we did the math its fair to assume that I have given a lot of time and money to ZOS because of how much I believe in the success of ESO and TES as a whole.
I had even defended the dev teams and the community managers when the community was and is still at times very toxic. I spoke up for ZOS on numerous occasions, I provided my biggest defense when the community wanted much of the the combat dev team's heads' on pikes for nerfing the Sorceror's shields(which I still defend to this day and will).
But what has been done to Imperials is a TRAVESTY. people payed real world money for the ability to play as an Imperial and now they are without a doubt the worst performing race in the game. this doesn't make sense, it no longer is an upgrade, it is a downgrade. Customers payed for a digital Imperial "upgrade" nothing is upgraded anymore nor was it before because Imperials passives before this update were just "sufficient" nothing special about them. they did not even match up with the lore of ESO, which states the ethnic groups of Imperials; the colovians and the nibesnese, both specialize in stamina and magic respectively. now the new race passives come out and they make the digital upgrade not worth buying except the nostalgia of running a crappy performing character in game.
I have much faith ZOS and ESO's Year of the Dragon, but I must say as a loyal customer, players, and advocate for this game, these passives for Imperials are not a step in the right direction. I pray that this letter/post finds the three of you and the rest of the staff at @ZOS well.
your loyal customer, and advocate for ESO,
@rexagamemnon


Edited by rexagamemnon on January 25, 2019 11:52AM
  • Ratzkifal
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    TL;DR:
    But what has been done to Imperials is a TRAVESTY. people payed real world money for the ability to play as an Imperial and now they are without a doubt the worst performing race in the game. hey did not even match up with the lore of ESO, which states the ethnic groups of Imperials; the colovians and the nibesnese, both specialize in stamina and magic respectively. now the new race passives come out and they make the digital upgrade not worth buying except the nostalgia of running a crappy performing character in game. these passives for Imperials are not a step in the right direction
    Edited by Ratzkifal on January 25, 2019 2:10AM
    This Bosmer was tortured to death. There is nothing left to be done.
  • Sylvermynx
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    Oy. "CUSTOMER".... A "costumer" is someone who crafts costumes, or sells them. And how about paragraphing so your wall of text is readable?

    That said, and having read said wall of text (without paragraphs), I don't personally agree. I have one Impie on my second account. I won't consider her a TRAVESTY until I find she's totally unplayable.

    I don't expect that to be the case.
  • Ratzkifal
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    With the change to CP/them being replaced, you can bet that the block reduction will become much more relevant. The max health passive only really matters if you tried to go stack health into infinity, which is a build that ZOS continuously nerfed for two years now beginning with the Morrowind patch and the famous "this is a nerf if you had more and a buff if you had less than X". Red Diamond will now proc more often, off of more things (even from range) and heal harder unless you were a tank (meaning you had more than 29k health). And even then, the added 5% on it's proc chance results in a higher healing per second compared to the old passive with tank stats.
    This Bosmer was tortured to death. There is nothing left to be done.
  • rexagamemnon
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    Ratzkifal wrote: »
    With the change to CP/them being replaced, you can bet that the block reduction will become much more relevant. The max health passive only really matters if you tried to go stack health into infinity, which is a build that ZOS continuously nerfed for two years now beginning with the Morrowind patch and the famous "this is a nerf if you had more and a buff if you had less than X". Red Diamond will now proc more often, off of more things (even from range) and heal harder unless you were a tank (meaning you had more than 29k health). And even then, the added 5% on it's proc chance results in a higher healing per second compared to the old passive with tank stats.

    Lets say you are correct about everything you said, The damage output has still gone into the ground though
  • rexagamemnon
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    Sylvermynx wrote: »
    Oy. "CUSTOMER".... A "costumer" is someone who crafts costumes, or sells them. And how about paragraphing so your wall of text is readable?

    That said, and having read said wall of text (without paragraphs), I don't personally agree. I have one Impie on my second account. I won't consider her a TRAVESTY until I find she's totally unplayable.

    I don't expect that to be the case.
    ”costumer” fixed 😂, im still horrible at paragraph format, and it doesn’t help i do this from my phone. I also blame the subpar American Public education system as a whole for this

  • Rake
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    ok
  • Matthros
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    I use my Imperial DK as tank and the block and bash cost reduction will be very nice.
  • Elsonso
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    Imperial in 4.3 seems to be OK, to me.

    They basically need to be a stamina + 1H race.
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  • Universe
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    You can consider all of this as a new challenge.
    If the race passives are lesser than they used to be, then you will have to adjust in order to play better.
    There is nothing wrong with Imperial race passives being adjusted so it will be more "balanced".

    Every time ZOS choose to balance OP aspect in the game, players complain, same for the recent well justified rapids change.
    Not everything in life has to be easy.
    Edited by Universe on January 25, 2019 12:30PM
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  • shaielzafine
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    People say the races are all balanced now with the changes, but tbh I wouldn't bother using my Imperial for healing or magicka dpsing. There's still way better options, even for tanking and even for stamina DPS. I have 1 imperial out of 12 toons and with the race changes there's no point to switching to imperial on any of the others.
  • zaria
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    Imperial might get the short end of the stick.
    An issue with all the tanky races is that you can not give them a lot of spell or weapon damage or they get OP in PvP there you need to be tanky.
    Imperial give them 2K stamina or magic depending on that is higher is an idea.
    its the 3rd hybrid.
    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
  • dovakiin5574
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    Literally performing 2% below other races in terms of dps... Not a huge deal and you can make up for it by building for what they lack instead of going cookie cutter builds
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