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1.3% completion rate (PS4) of Summerset is Proof of ESO's weakness

  • Hotdog_23
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    I have 15 characters and only one has done Summerset. I do all quest on her and none on the other 14. Wonder if the results show per account or per character.

    Plus their is so much to do in ESO that I have to be focused to complete each content as least once and not be side tracked by something else. To me that is part of the appeal to ESO is the amount of content and the different thing their is to do. With new content each quarter ESO is rapidly growing in size and scope and I personally love it. :)
  • Kalik_Gold
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    I myself have made around 10 ESO accounts on PS4 to access a private guild. Each of my kids made an account and don't pla regularly, they do BGs with me here and there.

    So out of those 12 accounts. Only 1 is played (my account).

    Numbers are way skewed if everyone does similar things.

    Main Character:
    Ras Kalik a Redguard Templar, the Vestige

    PvP Pure-class:
    Goliath of Hammerfell a Redguard Dragonknight
    Jux Blackheart a Redguard Nightblade
    Aurik Siet'ka a Redguard Necromancer
    Cacique the Sage of Ius a Redguard Warden
    Kaotik Von Dae'mon a Redguard* Sorcerer

    PvP: Subclassed or Specialty
    Movárth Piquine a Nord Vampiric Necromancer (Tank)
    Voa a Priest of Sep a Redguard* Necromancer (Healer)
    Tsar af-Bomba a Redguard Vampiric Nightblade (Bomber)
    Two-Big-Horns an Argonian Arcanist /Sorcerer
    Uri Ice-Heart the Twin a Nord Vampiric Warden (Ice-Theme)

    PvE:
    Cinan Tharn an Imperial Dragonknight (Tank)
    Herzog Zwei the Genesis an Akavari* Templar (Healer)
    Bates Vesuius of Dawnstar an Redguard** Dragonknight (Raid Damage) --- Name change needed

    PvE: Specialty
    Tyrus Septim an Imperial Sorcerer (Dungeon Damage)
    Tav'i at-Shinji a Redguard** Warden (Arenas)
    Lucky Hunch the Gambler - a Redguard Nightblade (Thief)

    Leveling...
    Styx of Akatosh a Goblin*** Arcanist --- Race change needed
    Zenovia at-Tura a Redguard** Lycan Sorcerer
    Yesi af-Kalik a Redguard Templar
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    Passives of another race used:
    *Breton
    **Imperial
    ***Argonian




    __________________________Backstories:_________________________

    Ras Kalik the Vestige, a renown Redguard warrior; He has been blessed to save Tamriel from Molag Bal’s destructive Planemeld while reuniting the Five Companions. His further accomplishments after defeating Molag Bal, has been to stop the destruction of Morrowind, the Clockwork City, return order to the isle of Summerset and create a new king in Wrothgar and a queen in Elsywer. These events have made him a living legend and continue to lead him into new adventures throughout Tamriel, as well as into the hearts of many ladies including the Elf Queen, Aryenn. Over many years of adventurous travels, Ras Kalik had become a loner, until he re-visited his homeland of Alik'r.

    Alik'r and it's cities were overrun by the undead Ra-Netu and therefore he made an allegiance with Alik'r's own Ash'abah tribe. These Ash'abah with his help, cleansed the city of Sentinel in Alik'r desert and it's surrounding areas of the undead brought to life by the Withered Hand. After rescuing Sentinel from the undead zombies, King Fahara’jad’s personal bodyguard the Goliath of Hammerfell, who was given this name by Imperials in the region; was asked to assist the tribe after learning of the defeat of the Withered Hand to the Ash'abah. Kalik promised Goliath he would task him with fighting living enemies on the battlefield if he so desired. Goliath being a Yokudan warrior wields a massive sword in respect to the Ansei, a gift given by the Imperial, Cinan Tharn. Not many soldiers are able to wield double two handed weapons, but Goliath loves to get up and personal in a fight, so he also carries a giant maul, both weapons laced with magical flames.

    Jux Blackheart is a master thief that masquerades as a Bard at the Sisters of the Sands inn, with his younger sidekick Lucky Hunch for pilfering and gambling during this time. Jux was known to infiltrate any towns bank vault he came across and even delved into Ayelid ruins without detection. Kalik can vividly recall the night he met the famed thief. Jux found himself rummaging thru a slightly inebriated Kalik’s pocket for too long, on a full-mooned night and because of his greed and the glimmer of his golden armor in the moonlight. He lost his left pinky fingertip as a lesson! But in return, he gained a new friend, as it was his first time since a child being caught red-handed...

    Upon arrival back in the Alik'r after many moons of adventuring, Ras Kalik ventures to Bergama. Visiting The Winking Jackal, he runs into Jux Blackheart, who introduces him to the coin game Crowns vs Forebearers (Heads vs Tails) and Golden Dwemer (RBG).... Jux constantly takes gold from the unfortunate thru theft or gambling, his biggest gambling victim is actually his partner in crime known as Lucky Hunch the Gambler. Lucky doesn't mind losing any gold coins to Jux... as Jux saved him from Altmer slavers in Summerset, by stealing a key and sending him on a boat to the mainland years prior. Lucky spent years in slavery with Khajiits in Summerset and picked up the art of subterfuge, using illusion magic disguises and stealing there.

    Kaotik Von’Daemon an outcast, and a half-caste between a Breton mother and a Redguard father. Kaotik become a pariah due to his conjuration of Daedra pets. He was taught healing magic during his childhood years by his Breton mother. His father due to Redguard customs exiled him from the desert, sending him by wagon caravan to be a soldier in the war in Cyrodiil. He happened to meet Kalik while traveling from Alik'r, during this long caravan ride the caravan he was in was ambushed in Bangkorai by a group of bandits. Kalik by chance was also traveling thru this area on his Auridon Warhorse (which was bestowed to him by his friend, Darien Gautier). During this ambush, Kalik was able to rescue five hostages from the bandits. Kaotik was the first rescued, and Ras Kalik also recruited him to be in the Ash'abah tribe. These core Ash'abah tribesmen may never be seen together in travel as they partake in their own adventures but they always know what each other is doing; as they frequent a hideout in northern Bankorai. Their hideout an old Orc castle ruin, is kept watch by Nuzhimeh and she passes messages written between them, and frequently they also enjoy her company and her bed.

    The other men rescued were a Dunmer banker, an Imperial mercenary and two other soldiers, an Imperial and a Breton Knight, stating proudly he was an Akavir descendent. One of the Imperials, Cinan, claimed to be related to Abnur Tharn the Battlemage of the Imperial Elder Council (One of Ras Kalik's mentors in the Five Companions). Cinan Tharn was really Abnur's drunkard treasure hunting illegitimate son. He was caught smuggling artifacts out of the Ayleid ruins in Cyrodiil and the elder of the two Imperials was Tyrus Septim a retired Imperial navy battle-mage (now a Lycan mercenary living in the city of Rimmen) and guard to the Tharn family. As much as Abnur Tharn hated his half-sister Euraxia, he dislikes his bas†ard son Cinan more. Tyrus now a ruffian and privateer had been paid by Abnur Tharn to watch over Cinan as much as possible. Cinan Tharn a drunkard, loves to drink at least a quarter barrel of Nord mead before he raids various delves and dungeons for relics to sell on the black market. Cinan also plans to one day, run an illegal gambling ring... which he thinks will net him more gold for his wares.

    The Dunmer captive shackled to the Imperials looked familiar to Kalik from his time in Morrowind.... and he recognized him as Tythis Andromo a House Telvanni slave-owner and banker from Vvardenfell. During a rough interrogation to Tythis, Ras Kalik learnt why the bandits accosted him. The racist Dunmer was providing slaves as soldiers for the Three Banner War. The bandits were trying to negotiate a lucrative ransom for Andromo and the Imperials.... Kalik did not need any of this gold and he could never set Tythis free as he did with the two Imperial soldiers. His past involvement with slavery and war crimes, made Kalik's blood boil. He chose not to execute Tythis, as he figured the worse punishment for this former rich and opulent slave owner, is to now be an imprisoned servant for Ras Kalik and the tribe.

    Herzog Zwei the Genesis a reknown Imperial/Akavirri battle-mage. His roots going back to Akavir through his mother’s bloodline. (His mother is descended from the Akaviri, through Versidue-Shae, and his Imperial father met her in Hakoshae, while traveling) Herzog earned the nickname "the Genesis" from his father as a child, as he was his mother's first born child, and last, as she tragically died in child-birth.

    Herzog was seeking to purchase an artifact from Cinan Tharn, before their capture and was meeting Tyrus while in Rimmen, who introduced him to Cinan. This artifact being the Ayelid artifact; the sword Sinweaver. After their rescue and the exchange of gold to Cinan for the sword he decided to slip away before Ras Kalik could question who he was, and why the Akavir descendant really wanted that sword. Herzog was headed to Nagastani — An Ayleid ruin in eastern Cyrodiil. He had read in scrolls that the Sword would give him magical powers to meet his mothers spirit, if he performed an Ayleid ritual at an old shrine hidden there. Equipped with the artifact sword, he was off to start his own adventure but Ras Kalik, did indeed notice the sword however and instead sent a letter to Jux Blackheart (whom also was interested in Ayleid treasures), to attempt to find Herzog and acquire the sword. (*Azani Blackheart in Elder Scroll's Oblivion is Jux's descendant some 747 years later)

    And so the Redguard, Imperial and Akaviri men parted ways ... While Ras Kalik went off to Elsweyr to encounter the latest threat to Tamriel, with Abnur Tharn and Sai Sahan - - DRAGONS!! Little did Ras Kalik know a few people were awaiting him in Senchal besides Sai. A necromancer survived his attack on the Withered Hand, while in Alik'r. The necromancer known as Auriek Siet'ka is also following him to the land of the Khajiits and Cacique the Sage of Ius a Shaman mystic who has become attuned spiritually with Tu'whacca (a Redguard God) and Ius (the Animal God), after being burned severely by the escaped dragons in Elsywer, is awaiting his arrival also. Aurik is a soldier of the Daggerfall Covenant that was introduced to necromancy while in the military, even though this magicka art is not spoken of openly by most of the Military leaders. He came to Alik'r and worked with the Withered Hand before Ras Kalik intervened on their plans. After the defeat of the Withered Hand, he aligned with the Worm Cult, and is constantly adapting and perfecting his necromantic arts.

    After his journey to Rimmen, Kalik heads south to Senchal, in the southern regions of Elyswer. This new adventure will also put him on a path to meet a strange Redguard man. The stranger which was infected with an untreated Peyrite disease and also was the exiled from the Order of the New Moon cult, due to his sickness. He originally joined the cult to worship Laatvulon, the green dragon, mistakenly thinking it was the Daedric prince Peyrite. This confused and suffering cultist is known as Tsar al-Bomba and he is on a path to spread the disease. He was originally infected in Orccrest while recruiting members there. Can Ras Kalik and the shaman Cacique cure this poor soul, only time will tell. Little does Tsar al-Bomba know, that his infection is tied to Vampirism, and eventually the desire for blood will take over his mind. Senchal also offers Kalik his latest love interest... Aeliah. Whom he fondly led thru battles with the Dragonguard.

    After the trek thru the heat, tropical and desert climate of Northern and Southern Elyswer, Ras Kalik heads north to the cold mountain range of Skyrim. His companion friend Lyris beckons for him with a letter sent by crow...

    Movárth Piquine - a former vampire hunter (now infected), within the Fighter's Guild (and a secretive necromancer) was in Skyrim working with the Morthaal Guard. On a patrol mission he was caught in Frewien's ice curse outside of Morthaal with the frozen undead. Movárth's vampiric infection kept him from becoming an undead minion to the curse. He was able to use necromantic ice-magic to encase himself safely until he was freed with Freiwen, when the Vestige Ras Kalik broke the curse.

    Uri Ice-Heart - brother of Urfon Ice-Heart. The twin sons of Atli and Oljourn Ice-Heart. The Ice-Heart family are originally from Markarth but now reside on the Jerall Mountain range near Cyrodiil, with their younger sister Araki. The twins had joined the Winterborn Reachmen while living in Markarth. Urfon pushed west to Orsinium with the Winterborn Clan, leaving his family behind. Uri stayed behind with his parents and sister to live in the family cabin for safety, avoiding the Vampire plague infiltrating the Reach. After news reaches him and he hears of Urfon's death... Uri leaves and heads home and is seeking vengeance. Meanwhile, his sister has also moved on to Windhelm to join the Fighter's guild. He will visit his sister, once before going to seek vengeance and she will craft him armor mixed with ice, called Stalhrim armor. Uri fearing death, after his brother's passing, falls victim to the convincing talk of Movárth at a Nordic tavern, and will also becomes a vampire.

    {time moves forward through the hour-glass}
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  • lokulin
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    Yes. The abysmal completion rate for even quite low level stuff let alone new and harder content makes me believe ZOS is only interested in new players that spend money then churn on to the next game, or elite tier streamers that want hard content they can use to show off their skills and thus provide free advertising for ESO. There is a lot of content that could be rebalanced but there is not much point if 1) casuals never play it anyway and 2) elite teir have already completed it and complain if it is made more accessible fir others.
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  • Haquor
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    Ive had sunmerset since its lauch. And game since launch. But only just now bothered to do the main story. And that was only due to my location and connection atm taking me away from what i prefer. Pvp and trials.
  • Uviryth
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    no
    ESO.......mmorpg..........on Console........who does that............
  • Kadoin
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    no
    Not everyone completes things as fast as possible. I still have not completed it on live. I usually do PvE when the servers for PvP start to either lag too much or I feel like it.
  • Ilithyania
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    i still need to finish Morrowind, Clockwork and Murkmire, sooo many quests

    then i start Summerset :)
    PC
  • Turelus
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    I still haven't finished Summerset on PC.

    When I log in I have dungeons, trials, PvP and many other things to distract me from doing story content. I don't think you can solely judge how successful ESO is on an achievement for clearing one chapters story.
    @Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
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  • IwakuraLain42
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    Sigh, I would wish people would stop using the Trophy system on the PS4 to draw any conclusions about how many players have completed any part of a game. In case you didn't noticed (or knew): the information on Sonys servers is only updated when players actively look at their trophies (or compare other players trophies), only then the information is uploaded. And I'm pretty sure very few players do that regularly.
  • generalmyrick
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    yes
    (edit = wanted to add a sigh, thought it was stylish!)

    Sigh, stressful life!

    I think the person who mentioned that only 10% of ps4 players have killed molag bol has given us a base!

    You could say, well...if 10% have killed bol and only 1.3% have finished summerset then...then 7.69 people out of 100 have finished summerset that have killed bol.

    so, how about that? it make sense?
    Edited by generalmyrick on January 25, 2019 1:26PM
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  • Rex-Umbra
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    no
    I play eso 3 accounts wife and daughter none completed it xbox na. Zos got our money though so they fibe
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  • kypranb14_ESO
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    Well, considering those achievements are based off of how many people purchased the game. No.

    I remember a while back ZOS made a post somewhere about 10 million people have tried the game, and 2.5 million play it monthly. That means that 25% of the playerbase is actually 100%.

    If we assume of that 25% every single person both has the money, and wants to own Summerset, that still gives Summerset a ~33% completion rate.

    Now when you factor in that not everyone is going to want to dish out money for Summerset... Now we're just guessing, so ~33% completion rate based off of the numbers we've been given.
  • kylewwefan
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    Wats supposed to be a 5 minute quest turns into a week long adventure to me. (The Queens Decree) Then I get burned out on questing for awhile. All I really wanted was the Psijic skills. Once I finally got that, had to grind out these locations all over Tamriel. Now I’m supposed to do that on every toon to stay competitive?
  • Azyle1
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    Everytime I log in on Xbox I see people running around doing all sorts of stuff.

    It's fine.
  • Seebs
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    Uviryth wrote: »
    ESO.......mmorpg..........on Console........who does that............

    An absolute crap ton of people actually.
  • themaddaedra
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    no
    Who takes the console as a criteria anyway LOL
    PC|EU
  • gepe87
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    Summerset was a failure for me. On the other hand, Orsinum is ESO brightest star and isn't a chapter!
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  • Kuramas9tails
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    I think the percent trophy is effed up anyways. I don't take them serious.
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    • Valykc
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      no
      Didn’t they win best MMO of 2018?! What are you on about???
    • Kiralyn2000
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      Sigh, I would wish people would stop using the Trophy system on the PS4 to draw any conclusions about how many players have completed any part of a game. In case you didn't noticed (or knew): the information on Sonys servers is only updated when players actively look at their trophies (or compare other players trophies), only then the information is uploaded. And I'm pretty sure very few players do that regularly.

      Huh. I did not know that. And yeah, I think I've looked at my trophies once in the 2+ years I've owned my PS4 (and maybe 2-3 times in all the years of my PS3). People who don't care about trophies don't really look at them all that often.
    • Steelshiv
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      I would say no, ZoS is not in a weak spot due to only 1% of players on PS4 completing the Summerset story. However, compared to the richness of atmosphere and meaningful quests of a dlc of comparative size such as Morrowind, that Summerset does indeed fall short.
    • Reivax
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      I vote no because I love ESO, played in the beta, and have played it nearly every day since go live, have ESO+ subscription, buy another $200 or so in crowns a year (estimating) and own Morrowind and Summerset...

      But, and don't laugh, I've still yet to do a single quest in Morrowind, and very little of Summerset. Just have not done much questing PvE stuff in last year or so.
    • TheBonesXXX
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      I've been playing since beta and I haven't even finished gold, silver, wrothgar, dark brotherhood, thieves guild. Means I don't quest...
    • wsmith97ub17_ESO
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      There is so much to do, I did the basics for psijic stuff, i'll come back around eventually like I tend to do though.
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    • Rake
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      it shows consoles are for kids
    • Katahdin
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      How do you even find these stats?
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    • EvilAutoTech
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      Rake wrote: »
      it shows consoles are for kids

      I thought the same thing when I was in my 20s and 30s.
    • PhxOldGamer68
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      I still haven't finished Clockwork City. Been busy in Cyro and I play on both NA and EU...and just started PC NA for Christmas. I agree the story lines have been Meh. Summerset has such long dialogues. Some were funny. Better than the Argonian in Morrowind that kept me searching for stuff in a never ending nightmare quest.
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    • Vizikul
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      Hotdog_23 wrote: »
      I have 15 characters and only one has done Summerset. I do all quest on her and none on the other 14. Wonder if the results show per account or per character.

      It's none of these. The xbox/ ps achievements count per player, so it's per gamertag/ psn handle.
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    • psychotrip
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      Seraphayel wrote: »
      The Summerset story is just not very good. Base game zones have better stories than Summerset so this is not very surprising. Overall the Summerset Chapter was quite... underwhelming. Was okay but not as good as Morrowind.

      What exactly is the story of summerset? I quit after they revealed what it looked like and I only kind of explored the place before leaving again. What's so bad about it? Do we at least learn interesting things about the altmer?

      Edit: oh and for the record, pretend my vote says "other". Not sure how to change it. I'll explain my thoughts later.
      Edited by psychotrip on January 25, 2019 6:32PM
      No one is saying there aren't multiple interpretations of the lore, and we're not arguing that ESO did it "wrong".

      We're arguing that they decided to go for the most boring, mundane, seen-before interpretation possible. Like they almost always do, unless they can ride on the coat-tails of past games.
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