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Imperial edition refund

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If you are going to remove something we paid real money for, give us a refund.

I want my money back and a race change.
  • p_tsakirisb16_ESO
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    Goodbye.... Can I have your stuff? :D
  • codestripper
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    Goodbye.... Can I have your stuff? :D

    Do you want the stuff specifically from their imperial? It's not a leaving thread lol (yet)
    Since everyone seems to be doing this,
    DPS Builds:
    - Magicka Sorcerer (Pet) [Flawless Conqueror @ 565CP] - 582k
    - Magicka Nightblade [Flawless Conqueror @ 780CP] - 575k
    - Stamina Sorcerer [Flawless Conqueror @ 420CP] - 560k
    - Magicka Classless [Flawless Conqueror @ 810CP] - 540k
    - Magicka Templar [Stormproof] - 550k
    - Magicka Warden [Stormproof] - 510k
    - Stamina Templar [In Development]
    - Stamina DK [In Development]
    - Stamina NB [Under 50]
  • DKMaestro
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    If you are going to remove something we paid real money for, give us a refund.

    I want my money back and a race change.

    Ehhh.. What did you lose exactly? Your white horse? The ability to transmute into Imperial style? Oh, I know. Your racial bonus will change. Poor you. I bet that when the new update goes live, someone comes up with an OP build tailored to Imperial. As they always do.

    God the whining is real for MINISCULE changes. But yes, I forgot you are one of the min/maxers who regularly pull 50K+ DPS. You may only be able to pull 48.5K now, and it will surely ruin your life.

    Not to worry, ZOS will DEFINITELY refund your money!
    Old man playing. Have a life, a job and only one character, which is grumpy (all the time)
  • xenowarrior92eb17_ESO
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    wait...they are removing Imperials as a playable race????oh wait...someone complains about "nerfs" done in pts.
  • satanio
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    It would be nice if they just made them a little bit more special.
    It'll be the third or fourth choice for a tank and last choice for a DPS in PvE. They went from somehow good big stats to just all around negligible meh.

    I'm considering creating a spiritual group called IMPERIAL LIVES MATTER. You're free to join. Share the message, hit that like button and subscribe to Kasa.
    Edited by satanio on January 24, 2019 9:03PM
    Current public stam parses on Iron Atro so far (esologs)
    DW&Bow
    DW&2H
    2H&Bow
    Bow&Bow

    Current public mag parses on Iron Atro (esologs)
    (non cheese)
    ESOLEAKS CASUALTIES:
    Checkmath
    Tasear
    RIP
  • IronWooshu
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    satanio wrote: »
    It would be nice if they just made them a little bit more special.
    It'll be the third or fourth choice for a tank and last choice for a DPS in PvE. They went from somehow good big stats to just all around negligible meh.

    I'm considering creating a spiritual group called IMPERIAL LIVES MATTER. You're free to join. Share the message, hit that like button and subscribe to Kasa.

    Now you can live out how us Nord players have lived for years. We may have something in common now.
  • Starlock
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    They didn't give a refund (when they should have) when they destroyed the ability to transmute items into Imperial style. They won't refund for this, which is far lesser of a change.
  • satanio
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    IronWooshu wrote: »
    satanio wrote: »
    It would be nice if they just made them a little bit more special.
    It'll be the third or fourth choice for a tank and last choice for a DPS in PvE. They went from somehow good big stats to just all around negligible meh.

    I'm considering creating a spiritual group called IMPERIAL LIVES MATTER. You're free to join. Share the message, hit that like button and subscribe to Kasa.

    Now you can live out how us Nord players have lived for years. We may have something in common now.

    We definitely will have something in common, I'll go north, wrestle some bears and undergo plastic surgery to change my race.

    still... IMPERIAL LIVES MATTER.
    Current public stam parses on Iron Atro so far (esologs)
    DW&Bow
    DW&2H
    2H&Bow
    Bow&Bow

    Current public mag parses on Iron Atro (esologs)
    (non cheese)
    ESOLEAKS CASUALTIES:
    Checkmath
    Tasear
    RIP
  • Shantu
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    DKMaestro wrote: »
    Ehhh.. What did you lose exactly? Your white horse? The ability to transmute into Imperial style? Oh, I know. Your racial bonus will change. Poor you. I bet that when the new update goes live, someone comes up with an OP build tailored to Imperial. As they always do.

    God the whining is real for MINISCULE changes. But yes, I forgot you are one of the min/maxers who regularly pull 50K+ DPS. You may only be able to pull 48.5K now, and it will surely ruin your life.

    Not to worry, ZOS will DEFINITELY refund your money!

    Sheesh! :/

    Give the OP a break. People are upset. It happens.
  • p_tsakirisb16_ESO
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    If you are going to remove something we paid real money for, give us a refund.

    I want my money back and a race change.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdKdB0ij3mo&feature=youtu.be


    Stop crying
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    Guildmaster: School of Julianos
  • Micah_Bayer
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    DKMaestro wrote: »
    If you are going to remove something we paid real money for, give us a refund.

    I want my money back and a race change.

    Ehhh.. What did you lose exactly? Your white horse? The ability to transmute into Imperial style? Oh, I know. Your racial bonus will change. Poor you. I bet that when the new update goes live, someone comes up with an OP build tailored to Imperial. As they always do.

    God the whining is real for MINISCULE changes. But yes, I forgot you are one of the min/maxers who regularly pull 50K+ DPS. You may only be able to pull 48.5K now, and it will surely ruin your life.

    Not to worry, ZOS will DEFINITELY refund your money!

    He's talking about tanking where he lost 6k health.
  • Micah_Bayer
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    If you are going to remove something we paid real money for, give us a refund.

    I want my money back and a race change.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdKdB0ij3mo&feature=youtu.be


    Stop crying

    That's a bug with dk
  • EvilAutoTech
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    DKMaestro wrote: »
    If you are going to remove something we paid real money for, give us a refund.

    I want my money back and a race change.

    Ehhh.. What did you lose exactly? Your white horse? The ability to transmute into Imperial style? Oh, I know. Your racial bonus will change. Poor you. I bet that when the new update goes live, someone comes up with an OP build tailored to Imperial. As they always do.

    God the whining is real for MINISCULE changes. But yes, I forgot you are one of the min/maxers who regularly pull 50K+ DPS. You may only be able to pull 48.5K now, and it will surely ruin your life.

    Not to worry, ZOS will DEFINITELY refund your money!

    He's talking about tanking where he lost 6k health.

    I don't have an Imperial tank. This is an honest question. Do Imperial tanks really need over 60k health? All classes? If so, they were terrible anyway.
  • satanio
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    DKMaestro wrote: »
    If you are going to remove something we paid real money for, give us a refund.

    I want my money back and a race change.

    Ehhh.. What did you lose exactly? Your white horse? The ability to transmute into Imperial style? Oh, I know. Your racial bonus will change. Poor you. I bet that when the new update goes live, someone comes up with an OP build tailored to Imperial. As they always do.

    God the whining is real for MINISCULE changes. But yes, I forgot you are one of the min/maxers who regularly pull 50K+ DPS. You may only be able to pull 48.5K now, and it will surely ruin your life.

    Not to worry, ZOS will DEFINITELY refund your money!

    He's talking about tanking where he lost 6k health.

    I don't have an Imperial tank. This is an honest question. Do Imperial tanks really need over 60k health? All classes? If so, they were terrible anyway.

    That was the only good thing they provided, biiiiig stat pool for DK tank. They had no bonus sustain, but still provided enough "meat" to be good.

    EDIT: forget to mention that IMPERIAL LIVES MATTER
    Edited by satanio on January 24, 2019 10:18PM
    Current public stam parses on Iron Atro so far (esologs)
    DW&Bow
    DW&2H
    2H&Bow
    Bow&Bow

    Current public mag parses on Iron Atro (esologs)
    (non cheese)
    ESOLEAKS CASUALTIES:
    Checkmath
    Tasear
    RIP
  • karekiz
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    I don't have an Imperial tank. This is an honest question. Do Imperial tanks really need over 60k health? All classes? If so, they were terrible anyway.

    So tell me why choose an imperial tank PTS vs lets say a Breton in PTS?

    Right now Imperials are:
    Bad at DPS
    Bad at healing
    Bad at tanking

    How is that balanced?
    Edited by karekiz on January 24, 2019 10:24PM
  • EvilAutoTech
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    satanio wrote: »
    DKMaestro wrote: »
    If you are going to remove something we paid real money for, give us a refund.

    I want my money back and a race change.

    Ehhh.. What did you lose exactly? Your white horse? The ability to transmute into Imperial style? Oh, I know. Your racial bonus will change. Poor you. I bet that when the new update goes live, someone comes up with an OP build tailored to Imperial. As they always do.

    God the whining is real for MINISCULE changes. But yes, I forgot you are one of the min/maxers who regularly pull 50K+ DPS. You may only be able to pull 48.5K now, and it will surely ruin your life.

    Not to worry, ZOS will DEFINITELY refund your money!

    He's talking about tanking where he lost 6k health.

    I don't have an Imperial tank. This is an honest question. Do Imperial tanks really need over 60k health? All classes? If so, they were terrible anyway.

    That was the only good thing they provided, biiiiig stat pool for DK tank. They had no bonus sustain, but still provided enough "meat" to be good.

    EDIT: forget to mention that IMPERIAL LIVES MATTER
    karekiz wrote: »
    I don't have an Imperial tank. This is an honest question. Do Imperial tanks really need over 60k health? All classes? If so, they were terrible anyway.

    So tell me why choose an imperial tank PTS vs lets say a Breton in PTS?

    Right now Imperials are:
    Bad at DPS
    Bad at healing
    Bad at tanking

    How is that balanced?

    Like I said I don't have an Imperial tank, I only have 2 Imperial characters. One is a stamden, the other is a stamsorc. They are mostly pvp and I'm losing less than 1k health on either of them if ZOS keeps the changes the way they are.

    My question is: if they could tank at 67k health, surely they would still be able to tank at 61k health, wouldn't they?

    I wasn't trying to be confrontational or disrespectful. I bought the Imperial upgrade and I don't like these changes either.

    But the way I was reading this thread it seemed:

    "My trash race that I paid good money for is now even worse. I've been hoodwinked and bamboozled. Dirty pool ZOS, dirty pool."

    Am I wrong?
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    Am I wrong?

    Easily wrong. You talking about a change in PTS in which the devs are literally asking the community to post about and have suggestions. Do you honestly think the first draft is the final say? Why wouldn't someone say:

    "Hey my race is a tad imbalanced vs other competing races. Since this update is to provide a more balanced look while maintaing some racial flavor here "X" might need a buff".

    So yeah. Your literally wrong.

    Maybe Imperials are going to be some sort of PvP race, I wouldn't know as I don't bother with that. I am looking from a PvE style, and basically reworked my tank with Better resists + Better mana regen + -1.5K stamina - +3K mana - Better sustain. Thats on a *breton* which is a magically based race. Essentially there isn't a point to it and imperials being a "tank" based race.

    As for your quote you sound more like someone who doesn't understand what test server is even for.
    Edited by karekiz on January 24, 2019 11:10PM
  • zaria
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    wait...they are removing Imperials as a playable race????oh wait...someone complains about "nerfs" done in pts.
    Granted they got the short stick I say.

    You have various types of complains about the racial changes.
    Argonians for being nerfed. Know nothing about the calculations so do not know if fair or not.
    Might make them more hybrid 750 health and stamina.
    Imperials looks booring some say give the 2K stamina or magic depending on that is highest. Sounds fair, put them in line with Argonians. Two problem solved.

    Bosmers who complain about loosing stealth while becoming an PvP race. Not enough experience to comment.
    Some orc tanks who now is bis level DD but can not parse :) They can still tank well

    Dunmer who complain why their magDK is no longer bis. well you do 300 damage less than bis on an 60K parse. All other magic build AND stamina buld is withing 500 damage of bis or is bis.
    It should been an evil ending of the ESO Morrowind main quest. Drop the asteroid and blow up red mountain. its an buff for the rest of us.

    Various others if we scream enough we get an buff. Vote for sustain buff on Khajiit.
    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
  • Girl_Number8
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    DKMaestro wrote: »
    If you are going to remove something we paid real money for, give us a refund.

    I want my money back and a race change.

    Ehhh.. What did you lose exactly? Your white horse? The ability to transmute into Imperial style? Oh, I know. Your racial bonus will change. Poor you. I bet that when the new update goes live, someone comes up with an OP build tailored to Imperial. As they always do.

    God the whining is real for MINISCULE changes. But yes, I forgot you are one of the min/maxers who regularly pull 50K+ DPS. You may only be able to pull 48.5K now, and it will surely ruin your life.

    Not to worry, ZOS will DEFINITELY refund your money!

    He's talking about tanking where he lost 6k health.

    I don't have an Imperial tank. This is an honest question. Do Imperial tanks really need over 60k health? All classes? If so, they were terrible anyway.

    Some niche builds do or they don't work. They were not terrible as they did more then the average tanky ever could imagine. So if the OP is running one of the two niche tankys, then they just lost their build because those will both be dead after the race change and the other nerfs being applied.

    Though as a standard tanky the imperial still works with the race changes.
  • Holycannoli
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    Starlock wrote: »
    They didn't give a refund (when they should have) when they destroyed the ability to transmute items into Imperial style. They won't refund for this, which is far lesser of a change.

    Wait what?? I can't convert to imperial style anymore? That's one big reason why I bought Imperial Edition. I just crafted a set of gear for my imperial main too without a care for the style since I was going to convert it to imperial. Wtf.
  • Girl_Number8
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    Most people are upset by the race change tokens cash grab scheme, as a lot end game players are going to lose a lot of money for something Zos should give for free to each locked character players have. It was their game mechanics which decided bis for certain roles and classes and they know this. :*
  • Ohtimbar
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    Shhh, don't complain. Just quietly accept whatever happens in order to appease the forum sycophants.
    forever stuck in combat
  • Tholian1
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    karekiz wrote: »
    I don't have an Imperial tank. This is an honest question. Do Imperial tanks really need over 60k health? All classes? If so, they were terrible anyway.

    So tell me why choose an imperial tank PTS vs lets say a Breton in PTS?

    Right now Imperials are:
    Bad at DPS
    Bad at healing
    Bad at tanking

    How is that balanced?

    Being equally bad at all three roles is apparently the balance ZOS was seeking. The decision to make them last for everything is simply absurd.

    PS4 Pro NA
  • rexagamemnon
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    If you are going to remove something we paid real money for, give us a refund.

    I want my money back and a race change.

    I dont necessarily agree 100%, but i do agree in that fact that we paid for a seperate race and its not even worth purchasing. Before i purchased for nostalgia being imperials were my favorite race. And i knew at the time the passives weren’t even lore based or great in general. Imperials should be best race in eso due to the money we pay for them. This is a travesty
  • Loralai_907
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    I guess for me, this isn't the first round of racial passive changes, so I expect it to happen from time to time. Remember being all like waht when we found out bosmers were getting fall damage reduction of all things lol. I remember throwing myself off things just to see what I would live through lol

    I'm not saying that what they are suggesting as new passives are perfect, I know some things should probably be looked into a bit more. And more than likely what will hit the live server will not be exactly what we were hoping for. But if there is one thing that is certain, its that everything is subject to change, and pretty much every patch we are going to be rebuilding one character or another.
    PC-NA - formerly, mommadani907Guild: Weeping Angels - Co-GMTwitter: @ Loralai_907 several Alt accounts....CP 1700+
    Active characters:Fauna Rosewood ( Bosmer Stam DK - Master Crafter/AD)///Loralai Darknova (Drunken Zombie Bosmer Stam Sorc - PvP/AD)Lilith Darknova ( Dunmer Mag DK - Master Crafter - PvP/AD)///and roughly 1billion alts
  • satanio
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    I guess for me, this isn't the first round of racial passive changes, so I expect it to happen from time to time. Remember being all like waht when we found out bosmers were getting fall damage reduction of all things lol. I remember throwing myself off things just to see what I would live through lol

    I'm not saying that what they are suggesting as new passives are perfect, I know some things should probably be looked into a bit more. And more than likely what will hit the live server will not be exactly what we were hoping for. But if there is one thing that is certain, its that everything is subject to change, and pretty much every patch we are going to be rebuilding one character or another.

    Words of wisdom, after all... nothing matters in grand scheme of things. Things must remain unbalanced to make game vivid and make players feel like they're heading somewhere with constant changes, therefore players stay in game, therefore spend more money on the game.

    Edited by satanio on January 25, 2019 12:03AM
    Current public stam parses on Iron Atro so far (esologs)
    DW&Bow
    DW&2H
    2H&Bow
    Bow&Bow

    Current public mag parses on Iron Atro (esologs)
    (non cheese)
    ESOLEAKS CASUALTIES:
    Checkmath
    Tasear
    RIP
  • EvilAutoTech
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    karekiz wrote: »

    As for your quote you sound more like someone who doesn't understand what test server is even for.

    The OP said these changes suck and I want my money back. That is who gave a demand based on the PTS.

    I said the Imperial race was never great and it's getting worse.

    I asked whether these 67k health builds could survive at 61k health. Apparently they can't.

    I have never used a build that required that much health.

    The Imperial race was only ever worth it's price to me because I wanted to play an Imperial.

    So you say I'm the one who doesn't understand what the PTS is for but this whole thread is based on not knowing what the PTS is for.

    I don't want to argue with you. My Imperials take a health nerf as well. I will still play them.
  • Leogon
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    If you are going to remove something we paid real money for, give us a refund.

    I want my money back and a race change.
    Imperials should be best race in eso due to the money we pay for them. This is a travesty
    I have the imperial edition so of course I want imperials to be strong but the best race in ESO 'cuz I paid for it? Nope. I don't want ESO to be P2W.

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    I don't want to argue with you. My Imperials take a health nerf as well. I will still play them.

    Awesome way to dodge the question
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