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tclark_ESO
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I think it would be great if they offered on the cash shop, or online, a paid account copy from PC to Console(XBOX or PS). And possibly vice versa Console (XBOX or PS) to PC. If they can't figure out the technical difficulties of cross-platform play they should at least offer a service to allow for people to gather together with friends on a common platform without loss of progress since this is not a new title anymore.
This should be doable as this would basically be some database exporting/importing. And it could be additional profits for the company as this would be a paid service.
This should be doable as this would basically be some database exporting/importing. And it could be additional profits for the company as this would be a paid service.
Paid Platform transform 56 votes
Yes - A paid transfer service would be a great option!
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No - A paid transfer service wouldn't be needed! People should always start fresh on a different platform.
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Itzmichi✭✭✭✭✭Yes - A paid transfer service would be a great option!Yeah they really need that and I wished they actually had it available like 1 year ago.Here, have a chill pill 💊!1 -
Dogzey✭✭✭Yes - A paid transfer service would be a great option!Starting on PC soon, max cp on PS4. I would happily pay 30-50 euro on top of an extra sub/expansion/base game for them to do a transfer. I would accept not getting my crown store items either.
I can't see how it would be a loss to them that is the bones of 100-120 euro for my first month excluding any money I would spend on crowns to buy new mounts, costumes etc.PS4 EU [810CP] - (Clairvoyance)
PvE High Elf Mag DK - Irelia Dragneel (Voice of Reason) (Dro-m'Athra Destroyer)
PvE Orc Stam DK - Minato Uzamaki
PvE Breton Templar - Ashura Namikaze (Voice of Reason)
PvE Altmer Magcro - Zeref Dragneel
PvE Orc Stamcro - Saphira Dragonsbane (Dro-m'Athra Destroyer)
PvE Orc Stam Sorc - Laxus Dreyar
PvE Imperial DK Tank- Tartarus the Abyss
PvE Dumner Magblade - Apex the Destroyer (Flawless Conqueror)
PvE/PVP Orc Stamblade - IIzuna Uchiha
PvE Altmer Warden Healer - Lady Netch
PVP Dumner Mag DK - Lady Embers
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kylewwefan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No - A paid transfer service wouldn't be needed! People should always start fresh on a different platform.Yeah, let me borrow a couple thousand temps and stuff and a couple billion gold from friends then transfer to another platform. You’ll get it back as soon the transfer is complete on this platform.
Nope
Not gonna happen.
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Seraphayel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I think they can't do it. I think a simple copy from platform a to platform b is not working therefore they have to completely create your character from scratch and that might be too much work.PS5EUAldmeri Dominion- Khajiit Arcanist -1 -
huschdeguddzje✭✭✭✭Yes - A paid transfer service would be a great option!The only thing holding me back from switching to pc are all crownstore items and motifs0
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Itzmichi✭✭✭✭✭Yes - A paid transfer service would be a great option!kylewwefan wrote: »Yeah, let me borrow a couple thousand temps and stuff and a couple billion gold from friends then transfer to another platform. You’ll get it back as soon the transfer is complete on this platform.
Nope
Not gonna happen.
Goddammit David, think outside the box obviously it would require to Permanently transfer the account as well as deleting the one you transfered from its original plattfom.Here, have a chill pill 💊!1 -
kylewwefan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No - A paid transfer service wouldn't be needed! People should always start fresh on a different platform.It’s just more reasons why it’s not gonna happen.
Now you want them to think and stuff. Maybe re program some things.
Like, I already transferred to PS4 from PC. My account is still on PC. Just like I left it. But I want to transfer my PS4 account now back to PC. Because it’s better now than it was.
Nope. Can’t do it. You can however start a new account. Leveling is quite a bit faster now than it used to be. You will get to CP160 very quick.
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tclark_ESO✭✭Yes - A paid transfer service would be a great option!kylewwefan wrote: »Yeah, let me borrow a couple thousand temps and stuff and a couple billion gold from friends then transfer to another platform. You’ll get it back as soon the transfer is complete on this platform.
Nope
Not gonna happen.
Goddammit David, think outside the box obviously it would require to Permanently transfer the account as well as deleting the one you transfered from its original plattfom.
I think it would be possible. Database data can be exported and imported. It would require work on their end, and maybe someone to do it, and thus the need of it being a paid service. They even do something similar in WoW to have paid faction, and race changes. This should be doable. The only stopping block I could think of would be if Sony, and/or Microsoft wouldn't allow it. In which case if it is their fault, then everyone needs to be told that cross-platform and transfer are being stopped by Sony and/or MS. At which point I will no longer buy any consoles of theirs.Edited by tclark_ESO on January 24, 2019 3:06PM0 -
AlboMalefica✭✭✭✭Yes - A paid transfer service would be a great option!Yes & no, this should only be available if the servers of your chosen platform is about to die and you wish to continue on a new platform0
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xxthir13enxx✭✭✭✭✭
✭No - A paid transfer service wouldn't be needed! People should always start fresh on a different platform.Heh no it won’t happen
just like kyle said it is too easily manipulated
Edit: Oh n I too was a PC->PS4 transfer...
WHich made me a Rich mofo Day1PS4....lolEdited by xxthir13enxx on January 24, 2019 4:06PM0 -
tclark_ESO✭✭Yes - A paid transfer service would be a great option!What if player A is on PC, and they find additional friends that play on console X?
With no cross-platform play option should they just be screwed to never be able to play this title together?
The hardware limitation of PC to console communications are something that shouldn't exist. The only reasoning for their being that I can think of is corporate greed. This is hindering the potential sales of game titles in my opinion. Because if this option did exist then more people might be inclined to buying a console to meet up with someone or a new pc for the same reason.0 -
Royaji✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/25807/kw/Accont transfer
No, they can't. Trust me if they could they would've slapped a price tag on that boy and got it going in an instance. That's corporate greed. But they can't. Just let it go and start fresh.Edited by Royaji on January 24, 2019 4:14PM2 -
roflcopter✭✭✭They can transfer accounts to different platforms, they did it once before and was part of the getting the PC version early. If you played PC at launch prior to a date which I can't remember, you guaranteed and account move to the platform of your choice. I am not sure why they don't put a price tag on this. Maybe more work than they want to put in, but for sure its doable and has been done in the past.
EDIT: I was an eligible account from launch.Edited by roflcopter on January 24, 2019 4:31PMXbox One | NA | AD
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Royaji✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭roflcopter wrote: »They can transfer accounts to different platforms, they did it once before and was part of the getting the PC version early. If you played PC at launch prior to a date which I can't remember, you guaranteed and account move to the platform of your choice. I am not sure why they don't put a price tag on this. Maybe more work than they want to put in, but for sure its doable and has been done in the past.
How about you read the answer to your question on the official support website?
https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/25807/kw/Accont transfer0 -
roflcopter✭✭✭roflcopter wrote: »They can transfer accounts to different platforms, they did it once before and was part of the getting the PC version early. If you played PC at launch prior to a date which I can't remember, you guaranteed and account move to the platform of your choice. I am not sure why they don't put a price tag on this. Maybe more work than they want to put in, but for sure its doable and has been done in the past.
How about you read the answer to your question on the official support website?
https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/25807/kw/Accont transfer
Are you suggesting I am making up the fact that at one point they had the ability to platform transfer?
https://attackofthefanboy.com/news/bethesda-confirms-the-elder-scrolls-online-pc-to-consoles-transfer-includes-digital-copy/
“The PC-to-console transfer is available for both US and EU, so long as you activated your PC account before June 30, 2014.”Edited by roflcopter on January 24, 2019 4:34PMXbox One | NA | AD
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Royaji✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭roflcopter wrote: »roflcopter wrote: »They can transfer accounts to different platforms, they did it once before and was part of the getting the PC version early. If you played PC at launch prior to a date which I can't remember, you guaranteed and account move to the platform of your choice. I am not sure why they don't put a price tag on this. Maybe more work than they want to put in, but for sure its doable and has been done in the past.
How about you read the answer to your question on the official support website?
https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/25807/kw/Accont transfer
Are you suggesting I am making up the fact that at one point they had the ability to platform transfer?
https://attackofthefanboy.com/news/bethesda-confirms-the-elder-scrolls-online-pc-to-consoles-transfer-includes-digital-copy/
“The PC-to-console transfer is available for both US and EU, so long as you activated your PC account before June 30, 2014.”
Still haven't read it, huh?0 -
roflcopter✭✭✭roflcopter wrote: »roflcopter wrote: »They can transfer accounts to different platforms, they did it once before and was part of the getting the PC version early. If you played PC at launch prior to a date which I can't remember, you guaranteed and account move to the platform of your choice. I am not sure why they don't put a price tag on this. Maybe more work than they want to put in, but for sure its doable and has been done in the past.
How about you read the answer to your question on the official support website?
https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/25807/kw/Accont transfer
Are you suggesting I am making up the fact that at one point they had the ability to platform transfer?
https://attackofthefanboy.com/news/bethesda-confirms-the-elder-scrolls-online-pc-to-consoles-transfer-includes-digital-copy/
“The PC-to-console transfer is available for both US and EU, so long as you activated your PC account before June 30, 2014.”
Still haven't read it, huh?
No, I read itXbox One | NA | AD
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Tandor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Starting on PC soon, max cp on PS4. I would happily pay 30-50 euro on top of an extra sub/expansion/base game for them to do a transfer. I would accept not getting my crown store items either.
I can't see how it would be a loss to them that is the bones of 100-120 euro for my first month excluding any money I would spend on crowns to buy new mounts, costumes etc.
That's irrelevant. It would be a loss to the console providers, and as such is unlikely to be permitted under the contracts between them and ZOS.0 -
Royaji✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭roflcopter wrote: »roflcopter wrote: »roflcopter wrote: »They can transfer accounts to different platforms, they did it once before and was part of the getting the PC version early. If you played PC at launch prior to a date which I can't remember, you guaranteed and account move to the platform of your choice. I am not sure why they don't put a price tag on this. Maybe more work than they want to put in, but for sure its doable and has been done in the past.
How about you read the answer to your question on the official support website?
https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/25807/kw/Accont transfer
Are you suggesting I am making up the fact that at one point they had the ability to platform transfer?
https://attackofthefanboy.com/news/bethesda-confirms-the-elder-scrolls-online-pc-to-consoles-transfer-includes-digital-copy/
“The PC-to-console transfer is available for both US and EU, so long as you activated your PC account before June 30, 2014.”
Still haven't read it, huh?
No, I read it
Then why are you trying to bring that console transfer from console launch as an argument in this discussion? Reading comprehension is a lost art.1 -
LiquidPony✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Yes - A paid transfer service would be a great option!Honestly even a limited transfer would be a great option.
Trasnfer account, CP, characters (including research, mount training, motifs, etc.), Crowns & Crown items, and bound gear.
You lose your gold, unbound gear, crafting mats, etc. so as not to disrupt economies.
The tricky part would be things like achievements and titles.
I mean it's probably never going to happen in any form. At the bare minimum even just an "Account Transfer" that simply allowed you to push your CP and Crowns/Crown items (mounts, houses, etc.) to a different platform, even if it was a "fresh" account with no characters, would probably appeal to a lot of people.0 -
driosketch✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Are we going to ignore the logistics and treat this poll as a what if wish list?
They appear only to be able to overwrite databases, not inject data into them. The character naming system alone would need fundamental changes if you were to try and tranfer in a character name already in use on the destination platform.
There is a reason EU and NA take turns on the PTS. PC to Console was a one time thing when console databases were still blank. I believe you were still limited to the same region, and cutoff for the character copy was months before launch.
But if magically, all issues were dealt with, then sure. Why not?Main: Drio Azul ~ DC, Redguard, Healer/Magicka Templar ~ NA-PC
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Sanctuary_Reaper✭✭✭✭✭huschdeguddzje wrote: »The only thing holding me back from switching to pc are all crownstore items and motifs
If they were game effecting purchases, i wouldnt of swapped myself, which i did 12 weeks ago, at the end of the day the switch to pc is the best choice i made over cosmetics.
The hardest part for me was leaving behind all the achievments, gold and mats i had collected, but all getable again.Edited by Sanctuary_Reaper on January 24, 2019 4:55PM0 -
RodneyRegis✭✭✭✭✭Yes - A paid transfer service would be a great option!kylewwefan wrote: »Yeah, let me borrow a couple thousand temps and stuff and a couple billion gold from friends then transfer to another platform. You’ll get it back as soon the transfer is complete on this platform.
Nope
Not gonna happen.
Fine. Transfer over alts, CP and skill line levels, but only base skill & attribute points from levelling. No gear, no mats, no gold, no assistants. You have to go and grind that, but you do get riding levels and crafting knowledge. No crowns transferred.
No charge, other than a 12 month sub (for which you get the usual perks).
Sure you'd get a load of max CP players running around with trash gear for a while, but it would be a win-win. And surely easy enough to implement. I'm sure I've overlooks something, but nothing that couldn't be solved.
It won't happen of course
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Royaji✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭RodneyRegis wrote: »
And surely easy enough to implement. I'm sure I've overlooks something, but nothing that couldn't be solved.kylewwefan wrote: »Yeah, let me borrow a couple thousand temps and stuff and a couple billion gold from friends then transfer to another platform. You’ll get it back as soon the transfer is complete on this platform.
Nope
Not gonna happen.
Just this.
We have not built, and do not plan to build, the capability to move individual characters from platform to platform. We were only able to move characters in bulk for consoles once on June 1st, 2015 because the database tables we copied to were brand new (empty). Now that the database tables are filled with other data, the techniques we used before no longer work.
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zaria✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yes - A paid transfer service would be a great option!
Back then they copied the user database and deleted the users not transferred.roflcopter wrote: »roflcopter wrote: »roflcopter wrote: »They can transfer accounts to different platforms, they did it once before and was part of the getting the PC version early. If you played PC at launch prior to a date which I can't remember, you guaranteed and account move to the platform of your choice. I am not sure why they don't put a price tag on this. Maybe more work than they want to put in, but for sure its doable and has been done in the past.
How about you read the answer to your question on the official support website?
https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/25807/kw/Accont transfer
Are you suggesting I am making up the fact that at one point they had the ability to platform transfer?
https://attackofthefanboy.com/news/bethesda-confirms-the-elder-scrolls-online-pc-to-consoles-transfer-includes-digital-copy/
“The PC-to-console transfer is available for both US and EU, so long as you activated your PC account before June 30, 2014.”
Still haven't read it, huh?
No, I read it
So it can not be done again.
However it would be possible to make an program who collected all the user data from tables in the database and created kind of an save file you could then import on the other server. Give it an random name and force name change before using character.
Has made stuff like that, it would probably take some weeks for one developer.
Grinding just make you go in circles.
Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.0 -
Donny_Vito✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes - A paid transfer service would be a great option!RodneyRegis wrote: »
And surely easy enough to implement. I'm sure I've overlooks something, but nothing that couldn't be solved.kylewwefan wrote: »Yeah, let me borrow a couple thousand temps and stuff and a couple billion gold from friends then transfer to another platform. You’ll get it back as soon the transfer is complete on this platform.
Nope
Not gonna happen.
Just this.
We have not built, and do not plan to build, the capability to move individual characters from platform to platform. We were only able to move characters in bulk for consoles once on June 1st, 2015 because the database tables we copied to were brand new (empty). Now that the database tables are filled with other data, the techniques we used before no longer work.
While I'm sure that statement is obviously true, it is possible for them to develop a new technique that would accomplish this task. When you create a new account or character, you're inserting new data into those tables. The same thing can be done when importing character data from another server. They just don't want to develop this tool which is sorta mind-boggling as it could be a real revenue generator. They could put caps on how many times you were able to switch that would prevent a lot of potential exploiting.0 -
Mintaka5✭✭✭✭✭Yes - A paid transfer service would be a great option!Sure. Why not. Being that it makes too much sense, ZOS would not make it happen.0
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RodneyRegis✭✭✭✭✭Yes - A paid transfer service would be a great option!RodneyRegis wrote: »
And surely easy enough to implement. I'm sure I've overlooks something, but nothing that couldn't be solved.kylewwefan wrote: »Yeah, let me borrow a couple thousand temps and stuff and a couple billion gold from friends then transfer to another platform. You’ll get it back as soon the transfer is complete on this platform.
Nope
Not gonna happen.
Just this.
We have not built, and do not plan to build, the capability to move individual characters from platform to platform. We were only able to move characters in bulk for consoles once on June 1st, 2015 because the database tables we copied to were brand new (empty). Now that the database tables are filled with other data, the techniques we used before no longer work.
Yes, thanks for telling us for the hundredth time. The nub is that "the techniques we used before no longer work."
This doesn't mean they could not use new techniques, just that they don't want to do the work. They could probably convert the data and import into the tables in the correct format. But they don't want to. Hence I said "it won't happen".
If they thought the uptake would be significant enough to make a large profit they would find a way.
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