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Nord and Wood Elf Changes are ridiculously insignificant

Shawkhan
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My main char is a Sta DK Nord Tank/DPS, when i was making my first char, i didn’t know which to chose, so i pick Nord because of Skyrim. Then i realize the existence of the racials, and that the Nord ones are terrible. So recently I decided to change to Argonian but then i heard about the race changes, and was hoping that Nords would finally have good racial passives, but looks like i’ll have to change.

Nords got their 9% Hp bonus converted to 1000, while Imperials, their 12% went to 2000. This 5 ult when hit don’t look like something that can compete with the other races, the last racial stays the same, damage reduction, which is too small to make any difference.

The point is, the only thing Nord passives are good is to be a tank, but not even for that he is good, Imperials do that way better, and since many ppl don’t play Just 1 role per char, you could choose a race like Redguard or Orc, to tank and do DPS in PvE and PvP. So why would i chose to be Nord instead of Orc, Redguard, Imperial or even Argonian? (Even with the nerf, still very useful passive)

Woeler about tank races:
1. Argonian -> Extra healing output and input, plus a built in resource management system and a health bonus.
2. Imperial -> 12% health is still a massive bonus that cannot be neglected.
3. Nord / Orc -> Both have good tanking traits, but are not as strong as the ones listed above.

Alcast tank recomendations:
1.Argonian, 2. Imperial, 3. Orc, 4. Nord, 5. Redguard, 6. Khajiit

If i could change Nords, i would add a passive to restore HP and Sta when he gets hit, it was something like this i was expecting with those race changes, something useful, something that give a reason to pick them over the others.

And then the Wood Elf, the worst race together with Nords. I have a sta dps redguard, that I put some sta regen items to make a sta healer, I wanted to make a char just for that, so I made a wood elf (that have more sta regen), but since I wanted to create other chars, I deleted it. That’s the use I found for Wood Elf, sta healer fun/test build, why would I use for anything else, Redguard, Khajit and Orc are better for Sta builds.

Wood Elfs had(still) the same passive of khajit, but since khajit have the crit, people will obv choose them. Only only big diff in the new Wood passives is the mov speed when roll dodge, and that’s it, you get some sta regen, some max sta, and roll dodge speed, like the nord ult regen, not a big deal.

Wood elfs are seen as bow users, but the only bow “specialization” that they have is the bonus xp… wow so good… I was expecting more of those race changes, maybe a dmg bonus for bows, or even cost reduction.

Now Khajits are not only stamina based but also magicka, and Dark elfs too, now there will be way more ppl playing them , with diff builds. While wood elfs are still the same boring “sta regen” race

If ZoS release the racial distribution, i’m sure Nords and Wood Elfs gonna be on the bottom, no surprise there.

Nord and Wood Elf are this race that you only make because you already have all the other races, and want to see how they are. Also for RP, the "RP Races"

I'm surprised people are not talking more about it, probably because there's not a lot of players playing them to care lol...
  • Aliyavana
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    bosmer's new racials are insanely good for kiting in pvp now and are not niche to the ganking playstyle anymore

    nords are supposedly going to be top tier tanks now
    Edited by Aliyavana on January 20, 2019 11:05PM
  • susmitds
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    Wood elves went from PvP NB race to Stam sustain master race.
    You call that ultimate gain insignificant, but I can see groups forcing all tanks to be Nords, just for the ultimate gain. Also, the resistance buff means, you can hit resist cap with zero resist sets, trait or CP and use ultigain/debuff gear on tanks.
  • Tetrafy
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    12 percent to 2k thats a huge nerf on imps
  • BejaProphet
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    Wait just a little bit then see what your references are saying about the new nords. They are going to be meta if the changes go live. For tanking I mean.
  • Ragnarock41
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    I'm making a nord dk for pvp. If anything imperial is garbage in comparission.
  • Banana
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    Others would disagree
  • Tigerseye
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    I care and I agree.
  • DKsUnite
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    I am swapping most of my stam chars to Nord lol....
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  • NoMoreChillies
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    Nord ult gen (if you build for it) will be soooooooo sweet.
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  • WacArnold
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    Wood elfs will be good. Imperials got the shaft compared to the others as they have nothing unique to offer. I wish they would up the flat stats and add the weapon and spell damage if they are going to be the flat stat race with no regen and a rng passive give them some wep damage to go with flat stats.
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  • Linaleah
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    I still want them to give my bosmer her stealth back. I don't care if she has the same passive as a khajit, especially since lorewise, it seems like it would fit better then stealth detection, seeing as one of the khajit breeds is apparently indistinguishable from bosmer appearance wise. stealth detection is pointless for me in pve. stealth radius was incredibly useful for pickpocketing though.
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  • ElectricWyzzard
    Most of the Wood Elf stamblades I know are pulling 50-55k dps self-buffed, non-cheesed. The lowest is pulling around 40k. This is on console as well so we don't have access to buff/dot trackers, laggier bar swaps etc... The best players I know opt for Wood Elf/Redguard for a stamblade.

    I did direct comparisons with my Wood Elf stamblade and Redguard stamblade and my Wood Elf hits the same on a target dummy. The new 20% movement speed boost and buff to poison resistance will also improve survivability in actual combat scenarios - your Redguard or Khajiit could maybe pull marginally more (though personally I've never noticed a handicap), but they will die easier and dead DDs pull 0k. The tiny bit extra they can maybe pull doesn't make up for the dps loss while they're dead. Khajiit's sustain is also being nerfed into the ground next patch.

    Slating an entire race because you tried to make a stam healer with it - which, let's face it, was always going to be garbage from the off - is extremely narrow-minded.

    Most people DO play just one role per character - so you don't have to respect every time you fancy doing something different.

    Again, the best tank I know is, ironically, a Nord DK, and with the new ult regen passive they're going to be insanely strong, especially maybe paired with some sets like Automated Defense - Nords will probably be meta for tanks in the next patch if they go ahead with the proposed changes.
  • MLGProPlayer
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    lolwut? Nord is the clear-cut meta class for tanking now. That ult generation passive is huge.
    Edited by MLGProPlayer on January 21, 2019 2:16AM
  • OrdoHermetica
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    lolwut? Nord is the clear-cut meta class for tanking now. That ult generation passive is huge.

    Yeah... my Imperial tank is feeling kinda pointless in light of these changes. :( I guess I do have a Nord Templar who I could convert from DPS to tanking...
  • IronWooshu
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    Im sticking with my Nord Warden but I would like to see some changes, either change the Ultimate gain to 5 ultimate every 5 seconds or 258 weapon damage.

    I personally would prefer the 258 weapon damage along with the resists, show us as hardy warriors.
    Edited by IronWooshu on January 21, 2019 2:56AM
  • Tasear
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    It's amusing to watch while some say x is trash the others say it's meta. Looks like we have diversity now with people argreeing and disagreeing.
  • Ragnarock41
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    Tasear wrote: »
    It's amusing to watch while some say x is trash the others say it's meta. Looks like we have diversity now with people argreeing and disagreeing.

    Meta means "most efficient tactic avaliable" , so obviously people with different levels of knowledge and different goals will argue about whats meta.

    But yes, as far as PvP goes the new racials made me confused since there is no single best spec anymore. And that is a good thing.

    Edited by Ragnarock41 on January 21, 2019 4:51AM
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