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New Race Passives! And New Meta?

SkoobySnaxx
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What do you guys think? I cant wait i love what they did to the khajiits! Do you guys think that Khajiit Magblade or High Elf Magblade will be the new race meta for PVE? And it looks to me like Orcs will put out the most damage for PVE due to the weapon damage. What are your opinions?
  • BustyChicksFTW
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    RIP Dunmer MagDKs. The fire damage nerf wasn't necessary.
  • SkoobySnaxx
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    RIP Dunmer MagDKs. The fire damage nerf wasn't necessary.

    Yes i was pretty upset about that and also the stam recovery from redguards being changed to reduce cost :(
  • SaintSubwayy
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    RIP Dunmer MagDKs. The fire damage nerf wasn't necessary.

    we will see, still hoping for class buffs towards mDK to make up the nerf to dunmer.

    New Meta (with these changes goin live as they are)...
    Magblade Magplar and Magsorc all highelves in PVE Trials
    Stamina basically al Redguard or maybe some orcs in PVE Tirals

    Meta just shifts towards other Races, but classwise (without knowing the classchanges planned) I would say stays the same.
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  • Ackwalan
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    Change is healthy for the game. Some changes are good and some bad, but without change the game gets stale. With ZOS having a different combat lead, there are new opportunities for ESO.
  • HappyLittleTree
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    Argonians>all
    Thuu chakkuth lod Hajhiit c’oo? Hajhiit gortsuquth gorihuth thuu gooluthduj thdeitoluu!

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  • Siohwenoeht
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    I want to see what the pts looks like for this. If I'm thinking correctly, the flat values can be boosted by the percentage modifiers from armor traits, skill line passives, class passives maybe enchants... I have a feeling it's not nearly as bad a change as some are making it out to be and may make more things useful. But we'll have to wait for the pts next week.
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  • MaxJrFTW
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    RIP Dunmer MagDKs. The fire damage nerf wasn't necessary.

    Overreacting much? You now get 258 spell damage which affects everything not just fire, and it also scales up with things like major and minor sorcery. The only real loss was the 3% magicka for 600 health.
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  • Jhalin
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    RIP Dunmer MagDKs. The fire damage nerf wasn't necessary.

    Yes i was pretty upset about that and also the stam recovery from redguards being changed to reduce cost :(

    that change is a buff to stam dps redguards

    9% recovery came out to a high estimate of 99 regen per 2 in combat

    even if the only weapon abilities you use are Poison Inj, Rending, and Endless Hail, in a 12s rotation its 115 regen per 2s in combat

    and those numbers are if you only use them once in a full rotation, and if they use Deadly Cloak then that effective recovery jump up to 165 per 2s in combat

    Not even mentioning the free 1k per 5s up from 750
  • SkoobySnaxx
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    Ackwalan wrote: »
    Change is healthy for the game. Some changes are good and some bad, but without change the game gets stale. With ZOS having a different combat lead, there are new opportunities for ESO.

    yes the classes passives lookin great! I still feel like wood elve is gonna get nerfed or red guard might get a stamina buff. but other than that the options are good rather than staying one sided. I can see nords being a good option for tanking maybe even redguard. Breton and high elf can match up with argonian for h
    Jhalin wrote: »
    RIP Dunmer MagDKs. The fire damage nerf wasn't necessary.

    Yes i was pretty upset about that and also the stam recovery from redguards being changed to reduce cost :(

    that change is a buff to stam dps redguards

    9% recovery came out to a high estimate of 99 regen per 2 in combat

    even if the only weapon abilities you use are Poison Inj, Rending, and Endless Hail, in a 12s rotation its 115 regen per 2s in combat

    and those numbers are if you only use them once in a full rotation, and if they use Deadly Cloak then that effective recovery jump up to 165 per 2s in combat

    Not even mentioning the free 1k per 5s up from 750

    its not 99 regen. What are you talking about? my redguard is pvp with 1900 recovery. 10% of that is 190
  • SodanTok
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    Ackwalan wrote: »
    Change is healthy for the game. Some changes are good and some bad, but without change the game gets stale. With ZOS having a different combat lead, there are new opportunities for ESO.

    yes the classes passives lookin great! I still feel like wood elve is gonna get nerfed or red guard might get a stamina buff. but other than that the options are good rather than staying one sided. I can see nords being a good option for tanking maybe even redguard. Breton and high elf can match up with argonian for h
    Jhalin wrote: »
    RIP Dunmer MagDKs. The fire damage nerf wasn't necessary.

    Yes i was pretty upset about that and also the stam recovery from redguards being changed to reduce cost :(

    that change is a buff to stam dps redguards

    9% recovery came out to a high estimate of 99 regen per 2 in combat

    even if the only weapon abilities you use are Poison Inj, Rending, and Endless Hail, in a 12s rotation its 115 regen per 2s in combat

    and those numbers are if you only use them once in a full rotation, and if they use Deadly Cloak then that effective recovery jump up to 165 per 2s in combat

    Not even mentioning the free 1k per 5s up from 750

    its not 99 regen. What are you talking about? my redguard is pvp with 1900 recovery. 10% of that is 190

    Yeah if 10% worked like that. But it doesnt, one shouldnt argue about stuff they dont understand
  • Olupajmibanan
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    I think that Orc is new bis for stamNBs and stamWardens and Redguard remains the best for others. I don't think that even StamNBs or Stamwardens would be able to sustain max-dps 0-sustain Dunmer
    Edited by Olupajmibanan on January 18, 2019 11:03AM
  • Tasear
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    Bosmer Sorcerer Healer :p
  • Tommy_The_Gun
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    Tanking & stamina DPS - Redguards
    Healing & magicka DPS - Breton
  • Olupajmibanan
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    I feel like, overall these are good changes. Well, except for magDKs. I feel sorry for all these magDKs that need to spend their token thanks to Dunmer change.
  • Kalante
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    It's all just an easy cash grab if zos doesn't give a free race change for every character. Some people have up to 8 characters who initially picked the race they wanted and now will have to pay to change it. That's **** up.
  • madarame_77
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    Stop all this whining about new meta. WE NEED NO META. This is the idea of this race update with which I whole-heartedly agree. It shouldn't be the case that if you want to make a tank it must be argonian etc. Accept it already.
  • SkoobySnaxx
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    Stop all this whining about new meta. WE NEED NO META. This is the idea of this race update with which I whole-heartedly agree. It shouldn't be the case that if you want to make a tank it must be argonian etc. Accept it already.

    The only one whinning is you my friend. Theres always going to be a meta for pve
    Edited by SkoobySnaxx on January 18, 2019 12:27PM
  • Azyle1
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    I actually think for Stam, Orc, RG, Khajiit and Dunmer will all be pretty close.

    Dunmer and Orc will have more raw damage but less sustain, while RG will have the best sustain.

    Then there is Khajiit who is kind of in the middle... crit, which is nice, OK sustain and a little more stam ( and HP which is welcome ). If we can get the stam/mag recovery to like 125, that would be great.
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    I feel like, overall these are good changes. Well, except for magDKs. I feel sorry for all these magDKs that need to spend their token thanks to Dunmer change.
    Yes, I and probably many other feared an Morrowind level nerf feast.
    Instead it was mostly buffs.
    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
  • John_Falstaff
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    @Tasear , offtopic, but since you're a healer - I wonder if khajiit healers will have received a good buff with the new racial passives, in your opinion?
  • Kidgangster101
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    Tanking & stamina DPS - Redguards
    Healing & magicka DPS - Breton

    Redguard will not be best tank. It has nothing to offer a tank besides extra stam and most tanks don't turtle anymore so no need for crazy stam.

    Tank races will be Nord and Imperial.
    Stam DPS will be orc, wood elf, redguard
    Magic DPS will be high elf, Breton, khajit
    Healer will be Brenton then argonian

    That is my opinion for a meta
  • Azyle1
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    Tanking & stamina DPS - Redguards
    Healing & magicka DPS - Breton

    Redguard will not be best tank. It has nothing to offer a tank besides extra stam and most tanks don't turtle anymore so no need for crazy stam.

    Tank races will be Nord and Imperial.
    Stam DPS will be orc, wood elf, redguard
    Magic DPS will be high elf, Breton, khajit
    Healer will be Brenton then argonian

    That is my opinion for a meta

    I would switch woodelf for Khajiit for stam.
  • StarOfElyon
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    Stop all this whining about new meta. WE NEED NO META. This is the idea of this race update with which I whole-heartedly agree. It shouldn't be the case that if you want to make a tank it must be argonian etc. Accept it already.

    Thank you. The meta mentality needs to die in a fire.
  • Azyle1
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    Stop all this whining about new meta. WE NEED NO META. This is the idea of this race update with which I whole-heartedly agree. It shouldn't be the case that if you want to make a tank it must be argonian etc. Accept it already.

    Thank you. The meta mentality needs to die in a fire.

    Why?
  • SkoobySnaxx
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    Stop all this whining about new meta. WE NEED NO META. This is the idea of this race update with which I whole-heartedly agree. It shouldn't be the case that if you want to make a tank it must be argonian etc. Accept it already.

    Thank you. The meta mentality needs to die in a fire.

    Its not mentaly. Like literally. THERES ALWAYS GONNA BE BEST IN SLOT. AND PEOPLE WANTS BEST IN SLOT. You must be an RP'er thats why you feel that way. But end game pve we need meta/BIS. you cant get accepted in vet trials with a high elf stam dk. Its not happening
  • Thalmor-Nordmaster
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    Still waiting for bell collars for those Khajiit curs. Sneaky lil bastas.Always stealing car keys and stuffs.I have 4 slots open for after the changes hit.

    I may make a Breton healer and giver her a nice strong Nord name something along the lines of Jorunn Elf Lover that sounds like a good pact character. I am not going into this in Negative Nancy mode. Things change, some for the better, some for the worse.

    I am not going to get worked up or frustrated over "Digital Progress" In a product that I do not own.

    Will add more later have ideas positive vibes and I am going to make some extry chracters for the luls brb fun time

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