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Fellow Bretons, it is time to rise
Il3rotherhood
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Hello everyone,
First, I would like to state that Breton is my favorite race in Elder Scrolls lore, so I might be biased. But I have the very strong feeling that the upcoming racial changes do not truly depict the nature of the Breton race. Let me explain why.
Here are the proposed change:
Developer comment:
Now, at first, this might seem pretty okay. But after reading the developer comment, it appears that they envision Breton as the most resistant to spells race and also the race with the highest base magicka pool. Lore wise, this makes a lot of sense and this is what you should expect from Bretons if you look back at other ES titles. Somehow, this won't be the case after the racial updates.
1) They are not even the race with the highest base spell resistance:
Nord:
2) They will share the same 2000 bonus to max magicka with High Elves. I believe Bretons should have a slighly better bonus, let's say 2500, to truly show that they can constantly weave spells and their natural attunement to magic. Their spells will remain weaker than Altmers, but they will be able to cast more of them, which is how it should be lore wise.
TL;DR
The spell resistance nerf is completely unnecessary and Breton should have a 50% stronger bonus to spell resist than Nords if anything, and they should have a slightly higher bonus to max magicka to truly show that they can constantly weave spells and their natural attunement to magic. Their spells will remain weaker than Altmers, but they will be able to cast more of them, which is how it should be lore wise.
Thank you for reading and I look forward to see your opinion on the matter.
Cheers
First, I would like to state that Breton is my favorite race in Elder Scrolls lore, so I might be biased. But I have the very strong feeling that the upcoming racial changes do not truly depict the nature of the Breton race. Let me explain why.
Here are the proposed change:
- Increases Experience gain in Light Armor Skill Line by 15%, extra 1% Alliance Point gain → No changes
- Gift of Magnus: 10% Max Magicka → Increases your Max Magicka by 2000.
- Spell Resistance: 3960 Spell Resistance → Gain 2310 Spell Resistance and 100 Magicka Recovery.
- Magicka Mastery: 3% Magicka Cost Reduction → Reduces the Magicka cost of your abilities by 7%.
Developer comment:
The Breton race is a proud one, and well attuned to the natures of magic. Their natural hardiness paired with arcane ability allow them to shrug off powerful spells and retaliate in quick succession with their own. This is shown in their bonuses to their Magicka pool, as well as their high resistance to spell attacks. Bretons should be feared for their ability to constantly weave spells with little delay.
Now, at first, this might seem pretty okay. But after reading the developer comment, it appears that they envision Breton as the most resistant to spells race and also the race with the highest base magicka pool. Lore wise, this makes a lot of sense and this is what you should expect from Bretons if you look back at other ES titles. Somehow, this won't be the case after the racial updates.
1) They are not even the race with the highest base spell resistance:
Nord:
- Rugged: 6% damage reduction → Increases your Physical and Spell Resistance by 3960.
2) They will share the same 2000 bonus to max magicka with High Elves. I believe Bretons should have a slighly better bonus, let's say 2500, to truly show that they can constantly weave spells and their natural attunement to magic. Their spells will remain weaker than Altmers, but they will be able to cast more of them, which is how it should be lore wise.
TL;DR
The spell resistance nerf is completely unnecessary and Breton should have a 50% stronger bonus to spell resist than Nords if anything, and they should have a slightly higher bonus to max magicka to truly show that they can constantly weave spells and their natural attunement to magic. Their spells will remain weaker than Altmers, but they will be able to cast more of them, which is how it should be lore wise.
Thank you for reading and I look forward to see your opinion on the matter.
Cheers
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Shalktonin✭✭✭Sorry as a Breton i disagree with every point you have made. It's fine we will survive and life will go on.20 -
Oberstein✭✭✭Finally breton race is balanced.History, like a human being, is thirsty when it wakes from its slumber…History wants to drink up an enormous amount of blood. And even if history has tired of drinking blood, that’s only in regards to the amount. But what about quality? The larger the sacrifice is, the more delighted the cruel gods will be.3 -
Kuramas9tails✭✭✭✭✭
✭I always ran my PVP healer as a Breton. Love it.Your friendly neighborhood crazy cat lady of ESO
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Aluneth✭✭✭✭The Breton racials might be the most balanced and fair out of all the races. I wouldn't change anything with them.5 -
mattaeus01b16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭I was considering changing my Breton sorc to High elf... Think its time.Player 1 "You all suck, dont you know how to play this game?"
Player 2 "Huh?"
Player 1 "just run passed everything!"
Player 3 "We could just kill them on the way"
Player 4 "Why am I 89% of total DPS, one of the only ones that Qued as DPS, and yet in a group with 3 other DPS that cant seem to kill the basic mobs in a normal dungeon, and being told I suck?"
Player 1 "Whatever, GFL"
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grannas211✭✭✭✭✭
✭No High Elves have always gotten a bigger boost to Magicka.
Skyrim: High Elf: plus 50 Breton: plus 0
Oblivion: High Elf: Plus 100 Breton: plus 50
etc
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JobooAGS✭✭✭✭✭
✭grannas211 wrote: »No High Elves have always gotten a bigger boost to Magicka.
Skyrim: High Elf: plus 50 Breton: plus 0
Oblivion: High Elf: Plus 100 Breton: plus 50
etc
High elves also got a spell vulernability passive3 -
Rex-Umbra✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Should increase breton spell resistance or remove nords spell resistance.Xbox GT: Rex Umbrah
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mairwen85✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Breton's did very well, still Hardy, still efficient, good sustain. 2nd in line mag spec. My magplar healer offhand dps is most pleased.0 -
DeadlyRecluse✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I'm very torn on whether or not I'll race change my breton magplar main to high elf when this lands. Very torn.
...I'll probably stay Breton until i hit GO for that sweet, sweet, 1% AP.Thrice Empress, Forever Scrub0 -
Sinolai✭✭✭✭✭I agree Breton spell resistance should be higher than Nords. The nerf really was not necessary. I disagree with the statement that they'd need more max magicka though. Altmer is supposed to be the most superior magicka race, which they are with spell damage, sustain and max magicka. Bretons are happy they can compete with altmers on atleast one of these Fields - while eating their superior destruction magic as breakfast.
However, I think bringing back the old Breton racial that returns magicka while taking spell damage would be interesting option to keep the resistance high and provide bretons with extra sustain, eg.
"Gain 3960 Spell Resisatnce. When you take Spell damage you restore 320 magicka. This effect can occur once every 3 seconds." (Number should probably be theoretically a bit higher than Altmer and trigger more often since you can't proc it yourself.)Edited by Sinolai on January 17, 2019 9:04PM1 -
Skander✭✭✭✭✭
✭Breton passives are dandy. But the High elf 258 spell damage is overwhelming. If they adjust that a little it's fine.I meme, but my memes are so truthful they hurt
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Sheezabeast✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I was hoping this was a Necromancer joke
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Minalan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Breton passives are dandy. But the High elf 258 spell damage is overwhelming. If they adjust that a little it's fine.
With a 7 percent cost reduction and 100 Regen, you can spec more into damage. Pickup another damage jewelry glyph or a damage mundus, etc.
That six or seven second proc passive the elves get isn't nearly that good.
What it comes down to is that Breton will be the superior healer hands down, high elves will be slightly better at DPS. Bretons can still spec as DPS magicka and do fantastic.3 -
Inarre✭✭✭✭✭
✭As a Breton main I disagree with your proposed changes. I think the changes zos has made are great and honors Breton lore while still being a viable and needed part of the passives roster in the game. Eso Bretons have always maintained their quick casting talents through sustain, not solely max magic. The regen is a nice boon to this.Edited by Inarre on January 18, 2019 12:16AM0 -
DeadlyRecluse✭✭✭✭✭
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I'm mainly amused that they buffed our most powerful passive and kinda-nerfed-kinda-buffed our less powerful one...
I'm not complaining, but I'm amused.Thrice Empress, Forever Scrub0 -
TheDarkShadow✭✭✭✭✭
✭Highelf: +2000 magicka. Breton: +2000 magicka. => equal
Highelf: 575 magicka if using class skill, cooldown 6s, ~90 magicka regen per sec. Breton: +100 magicka regen, ~ 50 per sec. => Breton lost.
Highelf: +258 spell damage. Breton: -7% spell cost. => I'm bad at math, can't say who win this.
Highelf: -5% incoming damage while cast or channel skill. Breton: 2310 spell resist. => Breton win.
So imo, for pve mag dps. Highelf is the king now, as darkelf firre damage got nerf. Breton is 2nd or tie. Will need to test if Breton can sustain LA rotation without absord magicka and/or mag regen glyphs.0 -
BretonMage✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I agree with the OP. I have played Bretons since Oblivion, and the primary characteristic I associate with them is their magical resistance. I don't recognise this new breed of Bretons with their meagre spell resistance that's even less than that of Nords'.
Except we didn't get it for free. We got it at a significant cost to our max magicka and spell resistance.1 -
Minalan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭BretonMage wrote: »I agree with the OP. I have played Bretons since Oblivion, and the primary characteristic I associate with them is their magical resistance. I don't recognise this new breed of Bretons with their meagre spell resistance that's even less than that of Nords'.
Except we didn't get it for free. We got it at a significant cost to our max magicka and spell resistance.
The spell defense is a small nerf but to be honest, a 2 percent defense reduction off a 23K+ armor build won't be a huge game changer IMO.
We'll be more than fine, this is probably the first change out of ZOS that I've ever cheered for.
Everyone lost max magicka, it's not like some guy out there will have more than you now my dude. Builds around 40K or so should end up the same.Edited by Minalan on January 18, 2019 2:21AM0 -
DaveMoeDee✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Why is OP comparing one passive to one race and the other passive to a different race? You can't get to any kind of balance like that. You have to compare total packages.0 -
bardx86✭✭✭✭✭
✭Breton passives are dandy. But the High elf 258 spell damage is overwhelming. If they adjust that a little it's fine.
With a 7 percent cost reduction and 100 Regen, you can spec more into damage. Pickup another damage jewelry glyph or a damage mundus, etc.
That six or seven second proc passive the elves get isn't nearly that good.
What it comes down to is that Breton will be the superior healer hands down, high elves will be slightly better at DPS. Bretons can still spec as DPS magicka and do fantastic.
Ya I agree I might switch from high elf. I'll have to test first but it could be really good.
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luen79rwb17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭I think Breton turned out to be very decently balanced and I feel relieved because the magicka mastery passive at long last has been given some love.PC/DC/NAserver
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