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Race change token on sale hours before patch notes??? Really

JiKama
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I genuinely like some of these racial changes for the most part, but I find the racial change token sale to be VERY shady. Like maybe once the changes have been tested and fine tune you could Mark it 50-75% off for a week or two, but I find this to be VERY crappy business. I understand you have to make money, but when it comes to people getting the most out of their character class it means alot. Hours upon hours of leveling, crafting, gathering Skyshards, lorebooks, fighters guild, Psijiic skills, and whatever else I'm not thinking of at this moment. Some people may not care as much and that's fine, but some people truly have an attachment to their character/characters. I just think the community deserves more than 1 free race change. I personally don't plan on changing, because I enjoy my khajiit and argonian characters. I'm just thinking of people from the community that have dedicated so many hours into their characters only to have their builds/playstyles massively changed. That could be ALOT of money to dish out for some who min max to their fullest and play multiple characters. As I said I like some of the racial changes and I know they will be fine tuned and changed as time goes by. The flash race change crown store sale upset me, because it was a TERRIBLE time to think about having that sale.
  • Girl_Number8
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    Yes, I replied to this in another thread. They want to get those impulse sales in before the pts has any feedback for the players to make a better decision.

    That they are on sale right now 16% off. Greedy as ever at 2500 crowns per token. So a nerf to us and a buff to them $$$$
    Edited by Girl_Number8 on January 17, 2019 4:24PM
  • Arrodisia
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    I completely disagree with ZOS's stance on this subject. It seems similar to a bait and switch tactic. It's one thing to open a crown store and another thing to charge for things that they caused to change. sell whatever cosmetic outfits they want but don't try to sell the player base balancing changes outside of the existing sub,dlc's and expansions.

    When class ability changes came they weren't all game breaking. Yet because the skill changes only cost gold it was given almost for free, and sometimes they were just flat out reset. So now because tokens are RL money and not gold they want to cash in. I think not and definitely not to this extreme. Even at a reduced price these would be ridculously expensive for people with a full load of chars, and this isn't a burden the players should be carrying at all.

    Unfortunately, I must agree with the majority on this one.

    They can't say "ok. You're paying for the dlc's and expansions, and now pay for something we (ZOS)changed in them."
    The point remains that they changed the races and people should be able to change to whatever they want regardless of reason for free.
    1 time change per char for free.

    The change is too costly to push on the player base and will cost more than the expansion itself for those who already have many chars which a lot of players do.

    They even comment that people may have made these races to be competitive with those passives available to them and now they should feel they can play what they want, but it's going to cost them. Why? They should've always been able to play what they want "without being at a disadvantage". I do get they want the changes, and so do we. That normally wouldn't be a problem, but the entire change stems from their balancing problems from the beginning. So no. It shouldn't rest on the players to pay extra for those changes. This is just imho.
  • firedrgn
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    I think the sale is great. Customers asked them to change some stuff i have no problem with the free token and the sale.
  • Brutusmax1mus
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    Sheeple
  • Trinity_Is_My_Name
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    Agree with OP. Gonna be interesting to see what happens to all our characters after the Racial passives change.
  • Tasear
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    I think this one was actually at time a class rep suggestion to ease transition.
  • Agenericname
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    Tasear wrote: »
    I think this one was actually at time a class rep suggestion to ease transition.

    Putting the tokens on sale was a class rep suggestion?
  • Grimm13
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    Tasear wrote: »
    I think this one was actually at time a class rep suggestion to ease transition.

    Which is not a bad idea considering that ZOS probably informed them that they would give only one class change token.People need to realize that these are tokens and do not need to be used right away.

    Knowing that this is a major change to the basis of every character in the game, giving a 16% discount is an insult to the players.

    The sale should 50% minimum and they should up the free changes to 3 per account. There are three factions so this would allow players to choose one in each faction if they so desire or how ever.

    Better yet would be to give a character bound race change token that expires in one week's time and one free change per account that does not expire.
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  • Perwulf
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    One word.

    Marketing
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  • AlienatedGoat
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    I don't care if they're on sale.

    ZOS is straight stupid if they think I'm going to pay to change race and name on 15 characters. I'd sooner find another game.
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  • Tandor
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    Wretched ZOS, how dare they reduce the price of an item just when people want it the most!

    At least, that's how their accountants will be viewing it. Why players should be thinking it I've no idea!
  • DemonDruaga
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    It is a pure scam. Some are major changes to the races that are in the base game that everybody bought. This whole " pay me or deal with it" is just a big f. you to all of us
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  • Ertosi
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    Why are you surprised? It only underlines the fact that the racial shake up is primarily to boost crown sales. If this was false, they would make things right for the players by allowing for free racial changes for a short period.
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  • AlienatedGoat
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    Tandor wrote: »
    Wretched ZOS, how dare they reduce the price of an item just when people want it the most!

    At least, that's how their accountants will be viewing it. Why players should be thinking it I've no idea!

    I know why players should be thinking it.

    Even on sale, with 14+1 characters (the free one token), you have to pay $350 just to change race on your other characters.

    Off sale, its $420. And none of those come with a name change.

    That's extortion.
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