Wait, did I miss something? Have they already stated how it’s going to work?
Edit: never mind, just saw it. It’s not horrible but it’s not going to provide more diversity. Not liking the huge max Stam loss for orcs.
LightMaster7 wrote: »LightMaster7 wrote: »Whatever. If you wanted to ever kill a game this is the way to do it.
ESO was unique because it allowed for sword and shield wearing sorcerers.
But apparently they are going more toward a specific "mold" as in traditional MMORPGs.
I think this really will be the nail on the coffin for most people. Its not like a large percentage of the population already quit after the sorcerer nerfs.
FU Zos.
Do you need tissues to wipe your tears? Or toilet paper? Because you're crying and full of shift.
oh did I hit a nerve? Come back after these changes go live and see how the game fares after 3/4 of the current, remaining population leave the game from utter frustration or anger.
OMG , I have 6 Argonians at all , but ZOS just provide 1 race token ?
Are you kidding me ?
If I buy and change the race , will they revamp the race passives again ?
LightMaster7 wrote: »LightMaster7 wrote: »Whatever. If you wanted to ever kill a game this is the way to do it.
ESO was unique because it allowed for sword and shield wearing sorcerers.
But apparently they are going more toward a specific "mold" as in traditional MMORPGs.
I think this really will be the nail on the coffin for most people. Its not like a large percentage of the population already quit after the sorcerer nerfs.
FU Zos.
Do you need tissues to wipe your tears? Or toilet paper? Because you're crying and full of shift.
oh did I hit a nerve? Come back after these changes go live and see how the game fares after 3/4 of the current, remaining population leave the game from utter frustration or anger.
Calm down. The patch isn't going to happen until March. We have 2 months to submit feedback and test so they can balance them appropriately. Bitching on the forums won't help your case.
CipherNine wrote: »It's just another fail by ZOS. They are liars. They advertise the game as a game with diversity. Yet they do this bs making your choices severely limited.
I have said it many times. Racial passives should be completely removed from the game
LightMaster7 wrote: »LightMaster7 wrote: »Whatever. If you wanted to ever kill a game this is the way to do it.
ESO was unique because it allowed for sword and shield wearing sorcerers.
But apparently they are going more toward a specific "mold" as in traditional MMORPGs.
I think this really will be the nail on the coffin for most people. Its not like a large percentage of the population already quit after the sorcerer nerfs.
FU Zos.
Do you need tissues to wipe your tears? Or toilet paper? Because you're crying and full of shift.
oh did I hit a nerve? Come back after these changes go live and see how the game fares after 3/4 of the current, remaining population leave the game from utter frustration or anger.
The one step in right direction is moving from +% buffs to fixed numbers.CipherNine wrote: »It's just another fail by ZOS. They are liars. They advertise the game as a game with diversity. Yet they do this bs making your choices severely limited.
I have said it many times. Racial passives should be completely removed from the game
LightMaster7 wrote: »LightMaster7 wrote: »Whatever. If you wanted to ever kill a game this is the way to do it.
ESO was unique because it allowed for sword and shield wearing sorcerers.
But apparently they are going more toward a specific "mold" as in traditional MMORPGs.
I think this really will be the nail on the coffin for most people. Its not like a large percentage of the population already quit after the sorcerer nerfs.
FU Zos.
Do you need tissues to wipe your tears? Or toilet paper? Because you're crying and full of shift.
oh did I hit a nerve? Come back after these changes go live and see how the game fares after 3/4 of the current, remaining population leave the game from utter frustration or anger.
Dude... I bet my hand and my leg 3/4 of them won't even notice any change, and from the other 1/4, half will beach about it and half will praise it. L2p, baby. ESO is a casuals game. These people you think will leave, and they won't, are a tiny minority... Very tiny. I promise you
Good bye though. Haha
MartiniDaniels wrote: »CipherNine wrote: »It's just another fail by ZOS. They are liars. They advertise the game as a game with diversity. Yet they do this bs making your choices severely limited.
I have said it many times. Racial passives should be completely removed from the game
More then that - just month ago ZOS advertised those changes like something which will provide diversity, so basically any race can play any role in endgame. Instead of it just nerfs and further pingeonholing, and several races which are less nerfed to sell race change tokens.
CipherNine wrote: »It's just another fail by ZOS. They are liars. They advertise the game as a game with diversity. Yet they do this bs making your choices severely limited.
I have said it many times. Racial passives should be completely removed from the game
CipherNine wrote: »It's just another fail by ZOS. They are liars. They advertise the game as a game with diversity. Yet they do this bs making your choices severely limited.
I have said it many times. Racial passives should be completely removed from the game
Racials don't change anything for most players, you have full diversity for everyone but highest end game players. So unless you're trying leaderboard or emperor, you have all options still viable. So much so that I run a redguard Magicka Templar and a wood elf stamina Templar, and they are just as effective as each other. Race doesn't matter because I can't hit more than 25k(I tried stamina on the RG too) with either resources, and sustain issues are solved with gear and CP. Matters very very little. Keep in mind... Most players, a crushing majority, will not even go as high as 20k. 1 or 2 % more or less damage means so very little... So irrelevant.
Just run random dungeons and see what I'm talking about. You'll find good players very far in between, 30k+. 15-20k are more common but still not at all enough that I'll always get one on my pugs. And I only run pugs with tanks and healers to avoid the DPS queue... I know about bad DPS. My main tank has DPS gear in the bag because of it...
Race does not matter, as long as it's not op, and it isn't. BiS will still be a thing, but variety was always there, and so will remain. Comes in form of stamina and Magicka builds for every class, and in form of every class being somewhat usable for every role. All in all, there's no false advertising anywhere, and that's the single biggest factor why I love ESO so much... I play how I want.
WuffyCerulei wrote: »I think people are still gonna be redguard stamsorcs because they want to be.
LightMaster7 wrote: »WuffyCerulei wrote: »I think people are still gonna be redguard stamsorcs because they want to be.
Was never about "stamsorcs", was talking about MAGSORCS.
WuffyCerulei wrote: »LightMaster7 wrote: »WuffyCerulei wrote: »I think people are still gonna be redguard stamsorcs because they want to be.
Was never about "stamsorcs", was talking about MAGSORCS.
Ya said sorcerer and only sorcerer. So I made an educated guess in that you were talking about stamsorcs, as most stamsorcs are Redguards.
LightMaster7 wrote: »LightMaster7 wrote: »LightMaster7 wrote: »LightMaster7 wrote: »LightMaster7 wrote: »LightMaster7 wrote: »Whatever. If you wanted to ever kill a game this is the way to do it.
ESO was unique because it allowed for sword and shield wearing sorcerers.
But apparently they are going more toward a specific "mold" as in traditional MMORPGs.
I think this really will be the nail on the coffin for most people. Its not like a large percentage of the population already quit after the sorcerer nerfs.
FU Zos.
Do you need tissues to wipe your tears? Or toilet paper? Because you're crying and full of shift.
oh did I hit a nerve? Come back after these changes go live and see how the game fares after 3/4 of the current, remaining population leave the game from utter frustration or anger.
Dude... I bet my hand and my leg 3/4 of them won't even notice any change, and from the other 1/4, half will beach about it and half will praise it. L2p, baby. ESO is a casuals game. These people you think will leave, and they won't, are a tiny minority... Very tiny. I promise you
Good bye though. Haha
Prepare to lose them then.
Hehe ok ok, I'll stop baiting. I shouldn't be bullying dumb-dumbs. Can I have your stuff when you rage quit because you can't l2p? @zonasarch, PC, both servers.
And they say this game is easy... But for people like you to lose 5 or 10% on a Nerf and this becomes the end of the line, must be a hell of a tough game. Git gud and all that! Hehe
No, dude... This game is tailor made for causals. Nerfs and buffs change nothing, absolutely nothing to the core audience. If you would leave your end game guild bubble (PvP or vet hm pve), you'd see that even on big trader guilds the casuals reign supreme, let alone on the rest of the causal guilds, plus all the solo players... Just... Open your eyes a bit. You'll see just how insignificant you are, and how ridiculous (44 club!) your claims are.
Silly kid. Go read a book.
wow you really sound like a stupid moron who have no idea how end game plays.
"get gud"? Are YOU a *** kid? Seriously?
If you actually played "end-game" you'd know how much racial passives become significant. Racial passives at end game can give you 15-20% boost in your dps or other areas.
Why don't you actually STFU and know what your talking about "kid"?
Did I pinch a nerve? Hahaha you don't know how to read, do you? Doesn't matter how much racial affects or doesn't affect end game, end game is not the core audience, causals are. And for causals, racial remains, add it was always, irrelevant. That's all ZoS needs to care about, meeting their main audience in the game. Not you, you're an insignificant and loud minority, that's all you are.
Shush shush a bit. And please, refrain from such an aggressive language, keep it civil or I'll be forced to report you.
I see, so you out yourself as a member of the main audience who doesn't have a *** clue what he is talking about when it comes to end game.
Ok I get it. Get lost noob.
Yes! You got that right! I started the game last month! I don't even have 5k+ hours on it, but my dumbas brain thought it would be a good idea to debate you, the Lord of all theres to know. Are you hermaeus Mora? Hmmmm.... 🧐
Sometime I wonder why I bother with deranged things like yourself. You tripping on a high late at night in your mom's basement?
No-no, mom's back room. Basement has spiders and I'm afraid if them. Woooooo.
Dude, seriously... Breathe.
He is way to worked up about this. We have two months of testing ahead with weekly PTS changes. None of this is set in stone.