Warden PVP build?

zyntex · January 2019

Hello folks,

I'm playing the game since roughly a month again and want to get into PVP with my Warden.

However, at the moment, I'm struggeling to find a good build with which I can start.

Any suggestions for me? I would like to do Cyrodiil and Battlegrounds.

Unified_Gaming · January 2019

Magicka warden or stamina?
Stamina - fury, sprigins and bloodspawn. 2h and sword and board

Magicka - few options: necro plus either armour master, shackle or bright throats.
If necro and armour master you can run shadow rend or a regen monster set.
If necro plus shackle or bright throat then use pirate skeleton.
Use fire staff for single target and soul assault or use staff lightning for aoe and northen storm. You can run a restro but I've found sword and shield works better for flat armour when needed.

If you need skills, just ask.

zyntex · January 2019

Oh sorry, I totally forgot to include that I would go for a Magicka build think that should be viable, too?

Unified_Gaming · January 2019

Yeah. I play magden and have since release. I've found you can drop spell damage and run high magicka as your skills scale with that well. The one thing to note is that the lack of an execute means you're reliant on an ultimate to obtain a kill in 1 v 1 and the warden is essentially a support dps with high burst when the ultimate is ready - soul assault can reach in excess of 100k on a magden fully buffed.

I have ran armour master and necro with 1 domi and 1 illambis but found shields don't hold that much this patch and instead found pirate skele plus 2 magicka sets are best for me, although healing ward is very powerful.

I'm currently running spinners and necro with pirate skele. I front bar spinners and back bar deaths wind 2 piece for more physical armour. My shalks as an argoninan are 15k with netch and no enchant 16+k if use a lightning and inner light. 17-18k buffed fully.

My optimal setup would be brightthroat and necro with pirate skele. Run a protective or 2 if you feel squishy however you would have nearly 20k of each armour + minor protection always and major protection for most of the fight. You can substitute bright throat for shackle and run tri food and some more regen. 1400 regen is the minium I play at and find 1600-1800 is the sweet spot. On this setup my shalks hit 20k+ tool tips fully buffed and 16-17+k dawnbreaker topl tip. Do note that pirate skele doesn't work well if you rely on shields.I found bloodspawn was massively inferior to pirate skele even with shields and have chosen higher armour rather than shields.

I persoanlly found high elf to be best - i race changed from high elf to argonian and have regretted it - damage is noticeably lower.

How are you for skills and cp setup? Do you plan to use it in battleground or cryodil?

Dan

Btw I run my current setup in cyrodil and battlegrounds fine just use regen mundus for bgs.

Brutusmax1mus · January 2019

Necro/ shackle.

ccmedaddy · January 2019

DanBeatYou_xD wrote: »

My optimal setup would be brightthroat and necro with pirate skele.

This is exactly what I'm running and can confirm it's awesome. Might switch back to Shackle next patch if they nerf off-stat sustain for Argonian though.

validifyedneb18_ESO · January 2019

The full ice meme;

(Thought that I should add I play Highelf. That 10% regen is borderline needed for this)

Gear
Winterborn, Iceheart, Mothers Sorrow

7/7 light
Smalls are divine 1/3 max mag/health
Large are all max magica infused
Rings + neck infused 2x magica regen, 1x spell damage
2x Ice staff Infused enchanted for frost damage (nice and cheap to buy for mothers sorrow as noone uses ice staves)

Food: Witchmothers Potent Brew

Att: 64/0/0

Skills
bar1: ForcePulse, WintersRevenge, ElementalBlockade, BirdOfPrey, MageLight
bar2: IceFortress, ElementalDrain, Living Trellis, BlueBetty, MageLight
Ult: NorthernStorm (Both bars)

Elemental drain is more for PVE, can swap, I run jewellery 2x damage which can leave me lower on magicka.

Keep IceFortress, LivingTrellis, BlueBetty at 100% uptime. LivingTrellis is also your main spammable heal, watch out if it goes off you because it will take 2 casts to get the instant heal if you dont already have the buff on.

WintersRevenge->ElementalBlockade (Revenge causes cold, elemental blockade roots people who are cold, instant CC), Force Pulse spam for days.

Dance around the middle of a fight but only really push in when you have the upper hand or have your ult up, very much a case of just learning to feel what you can and cant survive.

Dont run, you need the stamina you have. Cast BirdOfPrey for increased movement speed and walk, atleast just before you get into a fight.

1v1s are easily winnable against all but the most dumb burst builds which can catch you off guard without your buffs all up. Having environment "Pillars" to dance around is an instant win in any fight. (Wow feral main, I do like me some pillars), group fights your only real problem is bow noobs, I suggest just running when you see arrows coming in, find another angle to come in where you can deal with them, if you even can, usually you cant.

Chasing stealthies is easy as long as you can stick to them, your iceheart aura or ult will keep them from stealthing.

Use winters revenge to stop people running

Your burst comes from having 70% crit, and a light attack + enchant proc + winterborn proc + ticking damage + the split damages of pulse all critting. Just keep attacking until enough stars align that winterborn goes off and everything crits. Which happens a lot, just not burst on demand like some of the burst into CC builds with blockcasting and all that fun ***, but I would rather play a build that doesnt take advantage of major cheese mechanics anyway.

Performance

Does aight in Cyro, able to solo resources, keep FDs etc... nice with the ult to push into places...
But the build is mostly balanced around BGs as thats where I play mostly. Its not an immortal build but it has high survive and can dish out *** tonnes of damage even without the ult up.

Can also solo all normal dungeons except a few where mechanically its impossible with only 1 person. Can solo a lot of base game vet dungeons. Pulls about 22k DPS sustained so is usable for vet dungeons and normal trials too. Vet trials is a bit of a push but it has been done. Once.

Adenoma · January 2019

validifyedneb18_ESO wrote: »

Winterborn, Iceheart, Mothers Sorrow

7/7 light
Smalls are divine 1/3 max mag/health
Large are all max magica infused
Rings + neck infused 2x magica regen, 1x spell damage
2x Ice staff Infused enchanted for frost damage (nice and cheap to buy for mothers sorrow as noone uses ice staves)

Food: Witchmothers Potent Brew

Att: 64/0/0

bar1: ForcePulse, WintersRevenge, ElementalBlockade, BirdOfPrey, MageLight
bar2: IceFortress, ElementalDrain, Living Trellis, BlueBetty, MageLight
Ult: NorthernStorm (Both bars)

Elemental drain is more for PVE, can swap, I run jewellery 2x damage which can leave me lower on magicka.

Keep IceFortress, LivingTrellis, BlueBetty at 100% uptime. LivingTrellis is also your main spammable heal, watch out if it goes off you because it will take 2 casts to get the instant heal if you dont already have the buff on.

WintersRevenge->ElementalBlockade (Revenge causes cold, elemental blockade roots people who are cold, instant CC), Force Pulse spam for days.

Dance around the middle of a fight but only really push in when you have the upper hand or have your ult up, very much a case of just learning to feel what you can and cant survive.

Dont run, you need the stamina you have. Cast BirdOfPrey for increased movement speed and walk, atleast just before you get into a fight.

1v1s are easily winnable against all but the most dumb burst builds which can catch you off guard without your buffs all up. Having environment "Pillars" to dance around is an instant win in any fight. (Wow feral main, I do like me some pillars), group fights your only real problem is bow noobs, I suggest just running when you see arrows coming in, find another angle to come in where you can deal with them, if you even can, usually you cant.

Chasing stealthies is easy as long as you can stick to them, your iceheart aura or ult will keep them from stealthing.

Use winters revenge to stop people running

Your burst comes from having 70% crit, and a light attack + enchant proc + winterborn proc + ticking damage + the split damages of pulse all critting. Just keep attacking until enough stars align that winterborn goes off and everything crits. Which happens a lot, just not burst on demand like some of the burst into CC builds with blockcasting and all that fun ***, but I would rather play a build that doesnt take advantage of major cheese mechanics anyway.

Enjoy the no impen life.

Kartalin · January 2019

@validifyedneb18_ESO Is that a Pve build? 7/7 light armor, no shield...going to get steamrolled.

validifyedneb18_ESO · January 2019

Kartalin wrote: »

@validifyedneb18_ESO Is that a Pve build? 7/7 light armor, no shield...going to get steamrolled.

PVP build, does just fine. (In BG) Sits at around 20k health, 12k resistences with fortress up (With another 8% mitigation), 30% more mitigation when ult is up, living trellis healing like 2.5k every time I take damage and being a spammable 5k heal that crits 70% of the time. And a 10k shield every 6 seconds from iceheart.

No hard CC but lots of rooting and *** tonnes of damage to deal with glass cannons quickly.

Somewhat susceptible to the ever-dumb and increasingly present bow spammers though, I will grant you. Not a build designed to be immortal, but a build designed to get a lot more kills than deaths.

validifyedneb18_ESO · January 2019

Adenoma wrote: »

validifyedneb18_ESO wrote: »

Winterborn, Iceheart, Mothers Sorrow

7/7 light
Smalls are divine 1/3 max mag/health
Large are all max magica infused
Rings + neck infused 2x magica regen, 1x spell damage
2x Ice staff Infused enchanted for frost damage (nice and cheap to buy for mothers sorrow as noone uses ice staves)

Food: Witchmothers Potent Brew

Att: 64/0/0

bar1: ForcePulse, WintersRevenge, ElementalBlockade, BirdOfPrey, MageLight
bar2: IceFortress, ElementalDrain, Living Trellis, BlueBetty, MageLight
Ult: NorthernStorm (Both bars)

Elemental drain is more for PVE, can swap, I run jewellery 2x damage which can leave me lower on magicka.

Keep IceFortress, LivingTrellis, BlueBetty at 100% uptime. LivingTrellis is also your main spammable heal, watch out if it goes off you because it will take 2 casts to get the instant heal if you dont already have the buff on.

WintersRevenge->ElementalBlockade (Revenge causes cold, elemental blockade roots people who are cold, instant CC), Force Pulse spam for days.

Dance around the middle of a fight but only really push in when you have the upper hand or have your ult up, very much a case of just learning to feel what you can and cant survive.

Dont run, you need the stamina you have. Cast BirdOfPrey for increased movement speed and walk, atleast just before you get into a fight.

1v1s are easily winnable against all but the most dumb burst builds which can catch you off guard without your buffs all up. Having environment "Pillars" to dance around is an instant win in any fight. (Wow feral main, I do like me some pillars), group fights your only real problem is bow noobs, I suggest just running when you see arrows coming in, find another angle to come in where you can deal with them, if you even can, usually you cant.

Chasing stealthies is easy as long as you can stick to them, your iceheart aura or ult will keep them from stealthing.

Use winters revenge to stop people running

Your burst comes from having 70% crit, and a light attack + enchant proc + winterborn proc + ticking damage + the split damages of pulse all critting. Just keep attacking until enough stars align that winterborn goes off and everything crits. Which happens a lot, just not burst on demand like some of the burst into CC builds with blockcasting and all that fun ***, but I would rather play a build that doesnt take advantage of major cheese mechanics anyway.

Enjoy the no impen life.

Just never seemed worth when it's only major benefit would be against bow users, and I like doing more damage and healing with crits out the ass.

Bows do hurt though.

Slack · January 2019

validifyedneb18_ESO wrote: »

Adenoma wrote: »

validifyedneb18_ESO wrote: »

Winterborn, Iceheart, Mothers Sorrow

7/7 light
Smalls are divine 1/3 max mag/health
Large are all max magica infused
Rings + neck infused 2x magica regen, 1x spell damage
2x Ice staff Infused enchanted for frost damage (nice and cheap to buy for mothers sorrow as noone uses ice staves)

Food: Witchmothers Potent Brew

Att: 64/0/0

bar1: ForcePulse, WintersRevenge, ElementalBlockade, BirdOfPrey, MageLight
bar2: IceFortress, ElementalDrain, Living Trellis, BlueBetty, MageLight
Ult: NorthernStorm (Both bars)

Elemental drain is more for PVE, can swap, I run jewellery 2x damage which can leave me lower on magicka.

Keep IceFortress, LivingTrellis, BlueBetty at 100% uptime. LivingTrellis is also your main spammable heal, watch out if it goes off you because it will take 2 casts to get the instant heal if you dont already have the buff on.

WintersRevenge->ElementalBlockade (Revenge causes cold, elemental blockade roots people who are cold, instant CC), Force Pulse spam for days.

Dance around the middle of a fight but only really push in when you have the upper hand or have your ult up, very much a case of just learning to feel what you can and cant survive.

Dont run, you need the stamina you have. Cast BirdOfPrey for increased movement speed and walk, atleast just before you get into a fight.

1v1s are easily winnable against all but the most dumb burst builds which can catch you off guard without your buffs all up. Having environment "Pillars" to dance around is an instant win in any fight. (Wow feral main, I do like me some pillars), group fights your only real problem is bow noobs, I suggest just running when you see arrows coming in, find another angle to come in where you can deal with them, if you even can, usually you cant.

Chasing stealthies is easy as long as you can stick to them, your iceheart aura or ult will keep them from stealthing.

Use winters revenge to stop people running

Your burst comes from having 70% crit, and a light attack + enchant proc + winterborn proc + ticking damage + the split damages of pulse all critting. Just keep attacking until enough stars align that winterborn goes off and everything crits. Which happens a lot, just not burst on demand like some of the burst into CC builds with blockcasting and all that fun ***, but I would rather play a build that doesnt take advantage of major cheese mechanics anyway.

Enjoy the no impen life.

Just never seemed worth when it's only major benefit would be against bow users, and I like doing more damage and healing with crits out the ass.

Bows do hurt though.

What? Only against bow users?
No offense, but when you say "fine in BGs" then I wonder about your opponents.
Are they CP1 - 200 guys with a very low alliance rank, or actual pvp players who have been playing for a while

validifyedneb18_ESO · January 2019

Slack wrote: »

validifyedneb18_ESO wrote: »

Adenoma wrote: »

validifyedneb18_ESO wrote: »

Winterborn, Iceheart, Mothers Sorrow

7/7 light
Smalls are divine 1/3 max mag/health
Large are all max magica infused
Rings + neck infused 2x magica regen, 1x spell damage
2x Ice staff Infused enchanted for frost damage (nice and cheap to buy for mothers sorrow as noone uses ice staves)

Food: Witchmothers Potent Brew

Att: 64/0/0

bar1: ForcePulse, WintersRevenge, ElementalBlockade, BirdOfPrey, MageLight
bar2: IceFortress, ElementalDrain, Living Trellis, BlueBetty, MageLight
Ult: NorthernStorm (Both bars)

Elemental drain is more for PVE, can swap, I run jewellery 2x damage which can leave me lower on magicka.

Keep IceFortress, LivingTrellis, BlueBetty at 100% uptime. LivingTrellis is also your main spammable heal, watch out if it goes off you because it will take 2 casts to get the instant heal if you dont already have the buff on.

WintersRevenge->ElementalBlockade (Revenge causes cold, elemental blockade roots people who are cold, instant CC), Force Pulse spam for days.

Dance around the middle of a fight but only really push in when you have the upper hand or have your ult up, very much a case of just learning to feel what you can and cant survive.

Dont run, you need the stamina you have. Cast BirdOfPrey for increased movement speed and walk, atleast just before you get into a fight.

1v1s are easily winnable against all but the most dumb burst builds which can catch you off guard without your buffs all up. Having environment "Pillars" to dance around is an instant win in any fight. (Wow feral main, I do like me some pillars), group fights your only real problem is bow noobs, I suggest just running when you see arrows coming in, find another angle to come in where you can deal with them, if you even can, usually you cant.

Chasing stealthies is easy as long as you can stick to them, your iceheart aura or ult will keep them from stealthing.

Use winters revenge to stop people running

Your burst comes from having 70% crit, and a light attack + enchant proc + winterborn proc + ticking damage + the split damages of pulse all critting. Just keep attacking until enough stars align that winterborn goes off and everything crits. Which happens a lot, just not burst on demand like some of the burst into CC builds with blockcasting and all that fun ***, but I would rather play a build that doesnt take advantage of major cheese mechanics anyway.

Enjoy the no impen life.

Just never seemed worth when it's only major benefit would be against bow users, and I like doing more damage and healing with crits out the ass.

Bows do hurt though.

What? Only against bow users?
No offense, but when you say "fine in BGs" then I wonder about your opponents.
Are they CP1 - 200 guys with a very low alliance rank, or actual pvp players who have been playing for a while

I play lots of BGs, my MMR is relatively high but not as crazy high as if I spammed BGs on end for years. I do just fine.

zyntex · January 2019

Thank you all for your responses.

I think I will go with the StamWarden build from AlcastHQ since it really nicely since it matches my PVE tank build so far that I only have to change the attribute points each time I switch PVE and PVP.

Sadly the drink recipe is really expansive since it is tied to an event...have to look for a alternative to it.