Brrrofski wrote: »

It's not a glitch. Snipe has a travel time while silver shards doesn't really.

So you can snipe, snipe, light attack, silver shards and it all hits at once.

Okay, it's cheap and cheesy, but it's just timing burst, like specs does with curse, frag and endless fury, or stamden does with shalks and danwbreaker.

Cheesy and cheap, yes. Exploit/glitch, no.

Nope this is the snipe glitch where multiple snipes hit you at same time, someone had figured out how to force that to happen by using it in conjunction with silver shards so you'll get hit with 2-3 snipes with silver shards in between. Also had a guy do it using SS, LA, SS, LA, Snipe. You get that deal where you hear the audio que and you can dodge roll and try to heal but nothing responds and then a second later you drop dead and all the damage pops at once. That can be done EVERYTIME using this glitch.

itscompton wrote: »

Brrrofski wrote: »

It's not a glitch. Snipe has a travel time while silver shards doesn't really.

So you can snipe, snipe, light attack, silver shards and it all hits at once.

Okay, it's cheap and cheesy, but it's just timing burst, like specs does with curse, frag and endless fury, or stamden does with shalks and danwbreaker.

Cheesy and cheap, yes. Exploit/glitch, no.

Nope this is the snipe glitch where multiple snipes hit you at same time, someone had figured out how to force that to happen by using it in conjunction with silver shards so you'll get hit with 2-3 snipes with silver shards in between. Also had a guy do it using SS, LA, SS, LA, Snipe. You get that deal where nothing responds and then a second later you drop dead and all the damage pops at once. That can be done EVERYTIME using this glitch.

It's not a glitch. It's the travel time of snipe. The first snipe, light attack and silver shards hit almost bang on the same time, then the second snipe hits.

It's lag that makes it seem like they hit the same time.

If there is a glitch, it's not what most people are using. It's just the travel time and lag combo.

I've had plenty of people use snipe against me, unless it glitches you hear the audio que and have time to dodgeroll and the subsequent snipes/silver shards will miss or if the first hits you still have a chance to break free. You only get hit by multiple snipes without a chance to react if it's glitched.

Mr_Walker wrote: »

I am sure if this is an unintended feature it won't be abused.

Unfortunately it must have been posted somewhere and word is spreading quickly because I've seen at least 4 people do it today and had never seen that combo on my recap before.

@Brrrofski when you say it's just normal lag I don't think you're understanding that yes, snipes will sometimes all land at the same time because of lag. But I've never ever had a silvershards/snipe combo on my recap before tonight and the fact that it drops all the damage on you at the same time not randomly when lag spikes but everytime they use the combo means they are forcing it to lag the damage on purpose somehow. In a typical play session I'll usually get killed by lagged out snipes every couple of hours, this was happening every couple of minutes trying to fight outside BRK.

Mayrael wrote: »

itscompton wrote: »

@Brrrofski when you say it's just normal lag I don't think you're understanding that yes, snipes will sometimes all land at the same time because of lag. But I've never ever had a silvershards/snipe combo on my recap before tonight and the fact that it drops all the damage on you at the same time not randomly when lag spikes but everytime they use the combo means they are forcing it to lag the damage on purpose somehow. In a typical play session I'll usually get killed by lagged out snipes every couple of hours, this was happening every couple of minutes trying to fight outside BRK.

If I'm not wrong this combo caused health desync in the past, though ZOS said it was "fixed".

Could be that issue is back or never did get fixed but I've personally never encountered this in game before. When they use it you don't get any warning, you just drop dead and hear all the audio and see the damage numbers all go off at once after. The troll did it to me probably five or six times in ten minutes and I saw him hit other people with it too. Instant 100-0% everytime.

itscompton wrote: »

Brrrofski wrote: »

It's not a glitch. Snipe has a travel time while silver shards doesn't really.

So you can snipe, snipe, light attack, silver shards and it all hits at once.

Okay, it's cheap and cheesy, but it's just timing burst, like specs does with curse, frag and endless fury, or stamden does with shalks and danwbreaker.

Cheesy and cheap, yes. Exploit/glitch, no.

Nope this is the snipe glitch where multiple snipes hit you at same time, someone had figured out how to force that to happen by using it in conjunction with silver shards so you'll get hit with 2-3 snipes with silver shards in between. Also had a guy do it using SS, LA, SS, LA, Snipe. You get that deal where you hear the audio que and you can dodge roll and try to heal but nothing responds and then a second later you drop dead and all the damage pops at once. That can be done EVERYTIME using this glitch.

Anything that relies on lag cannot be reproduced with the same affect every time. It can happen with any skill. Light attacks stacking up followed by a mages wrath or similar. Reverse slash, rending slashes, etc. I've had it happen to me multiple times. People just get angrier at snipes because they would prefer everyone to stand right in front of them so they can spam their melee spammables. If your health is in the low 20kish range and or you have low resists, and or you're on a horse, of course most of the time you're going to get melted as you should. There are counters to every style of solo play. If you make a powerful sniper, then if you get confronted up close, you usually get melted. Its risk vs reward just like anything else.

Jameliel wrote: »

itscompton wrote: »

Brrrofski wrote: »

It's not a glitch. Snipe has a travel time while silver shards doesn't really.

So you can snipe, snipe, light attack, silver shards and it all hits at once.

Okay, it's cheap and cheesy, but it's just timing burst, like specs does with curse, frag and endless fury, or stamden does with shalks and danwbreaker.

Cheesy and cheap, yes. Exploit/glitch, no.

Nope this is the snipe glitch where multiple snipes hit you at same time, someone had figured out how to force that to happen by using it in conjunction with silver shards so you'll get hit with 2-3 snipes with silver shards in between. Also had a guy do it using SS, LA, SS, LA, Snipe. You get that deal where you hear the audio que and you can dodge roll and try to heal but nothing responds and then a second later you drop dead and all the damage pops at once. That can be done EVERYTIME using this glitch.

Anything that relies on lag cannot be reproduced with the same affect every time. It can happen with any skill. Light attacks stacking up followed by a mages wrath or similar. Reverse slash, rending slashes, etc. I've had it happen to me multiple times. People just get angrier at snipes because they would prefer everyone to stand right in front of them so they can spam their melee spammables. If your health is in the low 20kish range and or you have low resists, and or you're on a horse, of course most of the time you're going to get melted as you should. There are counters to every style of solo play. If you make a powerful sniper, then if you get confronted up close, you usually get melted. Its risk vs reward just like anything else.

That's sort of the whole point of the post, this combo gives the user the ability to lag the damage/dysync your health bar AT WILL, I'm nearly Grand Overlord so believe me I've put in the time and have the experience to know what's normal and what's not as far as getting killed by damage stacking and popping all at once and this is something new and different. It's not travel time or normal lag spikes, this is an intentional reproducible exploit they are using that somehow forces the server to desync and lag the damage so it hits all at once every time they attack.

biminirwb17_ESO wrote: »

I must check this out, I sometimes slot the other morph to slow small groups and used it today forgetting I had it slotted. I noticed it did 5-8k damage, did not think it did that much, this was at Bloodmayne defending.

I do have 4.5k physical damage and cp points in Master at Arms/ Mighty/ Piercing/Precise Strikes and Nirnhoned bow build.

The silver shards themselves weren't that strong, maybe 4K each, but the snipes were each 8k so two of those and three SS hitting at the same time is 30K and my health is 25K. When it would happen I'd hear the bow audio so I'd dodgeroll then attempt to heal but was already dead server side so no heals, I'd just drop dead a second later and then AFTER I fell over the audio for actually getting hit would play and all the damage numbers pop at the same time. I played all night long and ran into plenty of normal snipers and everything with them was as usual, but there were about 4 different people using SilverShards together with snipe and something about SS forces the desync/glitch EVERYTIME they do the combo.

NyassaV wrote: »

Brrrofski wrote: »

It's not a glitch. Snipe has a travel time while silver shards doesn't really.

So you can snipe, snipe, light attack, silver shards and it all hits at once.

Okay, it's cheap and cheesy, but it's just timing burst, like specs does with curse, frag and endless fury, or stamden does with shalks and danwbreaker.

Cheesy and cheap, yes. Exploit/glitch, no.

It's kinda an exploit. Maybe not a bannable one since so many do it but it's kinda an exploit

Then so is the standard sorc rotation by that logic.
Just because someone uses shards in their bow rotation doesn't make it and exploit.
Effective yes.