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Racial passive changes is a thing or no?
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MaxJrFTW✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Can't find the post now. Pretty sure they mentioned something about rebalancing racials. Either way, we don't know anything about the next patch. Just wait and see what happens."I don't know you, and I don't care to know you."
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Nolic1✭✭✭https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/445615/combat-update-in-u21-a-new-approach/p1
This is still the only info on it. So its likely we will not hear anything about this till update 21 is on PTS sense the reps are under NDA now.Sherman from Sherman's Gaming
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This is still the only info on it. So its likely we will not hear anything about this till update 21 is on PTS sense the reps are under NDA now.
yes, it is not really speculation since Zos stated they were making a pass at it. The message has been pinned at the top for awhile now.
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✭✭✭✭✭What exactly is the problem with racials though? Is not every race favouring either Stamina, Magicka or Tank/Health builds? I thought so.
So what would they even change?PS5EUAldmeri Dominion- Khajiit Arcanist -0 -
SanSan✭✭✭✭✭If they make my poossycat race do spell crit instead of weapon crit, ima be sooooo maydEdited by SanSan on January 13, 2019 11:57AM2 -
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✭✭✭✭Seraphayel wrote: »What exactly is the problem with racials though? Is not every race favouring either Stamina, Magicka or Tank/Health builds? I thought so.
So what would they even change?
Argonians are overpowered in PvP, so they need to be nerfed to PvE uselessness.
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Sinolai✭✭✭✭✭Seraphayel wrote: »What exactly is the problem with racials though? Is not every race favouring either Stamina, Magicka or Tank/Health builds? I thought so.
So what would they even change?
It says "balance pass" so I'd expect some small improvements/nerfs to rarely and most used classes. Nords, Orcs and Bretons are currently little used while about 2/3 of all characters created are Redguards or Altmer (what I remember from the old statistics) and I am pretty sure argonians represent very high proportion of the remaining 1/3. Dunmer became bis in summerset again so their numbers have probably risen a bit at the expense of Altmers.Edited by Sinolai on January 13, 2019 10:05AM0 -
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"A New Approach"
I hope that "new approach" means buffs, not nerfs... Because if it means nerfs there is nothing "new" in it...
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✭✭✭✭I hope it's not too drastic.
Some racials do need a buff.
Nord and Breton need touching up a bit. Maybe add physical resist to the Breton spell resist passive. Or some sort of damage boost. Nord could do with something too, not sure what. Maybe some sustain help like reduced cost maybe.
Argonians aren't too strong in PvP, it just synergises really good with magica templar. Don't think the whole race should be nerfed because of that though.3 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I hope it's not too drastic.
Some racials do need a buff.
Nord and Breton need touching up a bit. Maybe add physical resist to the Breton spell resist passive. Or some sort of damage boost. Nord could do with something too, not sure what. Maybe some sustain help like reduced cost maybe.
Argonians aren't too strong in PvP, it just synergises really good with magica templar. Don't think the whole race should be nerfed because of that though.
Watch zos nerf alchemy passives instead
after how they handled swift nerf it would not shock me!
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They will not change Khajiit into magic or make bosmer an tank race.If they make my poossycat race do spell crit instead of weapon crit, ima be sooooo mayd
High chance they will nerf the racial passives. the +weapon crit live a bit dangerous so does +attribute, specials like the Redguard and Argonians ones much more so.
You will not end up worse compared to other races unless they mess it up who is plausible.
Grinding just make you go in circles.
Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.1 -
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They will not change Khajiit into magic or make bosmer an tank race.If they make my poossycat race do spell crit instead of weapon crit, ima be sooooo mayd
High chance they will nerf the racial passives. the +weapon crit live a bit dangerous so does +attribute, specials like the Redguard and Argonians ones much more so.
You will not end up worse compared to other races unless they mess it up who is plausible.
Why is that, there was some leak from devs? From what i heard they plan to make every race viable for all roles.1 -
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Argonians are BiS for tanks, decent healers to.FrancisCrawford wrote: »Seraphayel wrote: »What exactly is the problem with racials though? Is not every race favouring either Stamina, Magicka or Tank/Health builds? I thought so.
So what would they even change?
Argonians are overpowered in PvP, so they need to be nerfed to PvE uselessness.
PvE DD not so much.
Luckily Argonians don't have any DD racial skills who can be nerfed, the potion buff will probably get an hit however.Grinding just make you go in circles.
Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.0 -
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✭✭✭✭MartiniDaniels wrote: »
They will not change Khajiit into magic or make bosmer an tank race.If they make my poossycat race do spell crit instead of weapon crit, ima be sooooo mayd
High chance they will nerf the racial passives. the +weapon crit live a bit dangerous so does +attribute, specials like the Redguard and Argonians ones much more so.
You will not end up worse compared to other races unless they mess it up who is plausible.
Why is that, there was some leak from devs? From what i heard they plan to make every race viable for all roles.
That's a common misreading of what was written.1 -
JazzyNova✭✭✭✭MartiniDaniels wrote: »
They will not change Khajiit into magic or make bosmer an tank race.If they make my poossycat race do spell crit instead of weapon crit, ima be sooooo mayd
High chance they will nerf the racial passives. the +weapon crit live a bit dangerous so does +attribute, specials like the Redguard and Argonians ones much more so.
You will not end up worse compared to other races unless they mess it up who is plausible.
Why is that, there was some leak from devs? From what i heard they plan to make every race viable for all roles.
I have thought a little about it too myself, but while it is true about making races viable for all roles... it most likely won't mean they'll turn redguards & khajiit into magicka dps or bretons into stamina dps, it means makes them more viable for dps, healing and tanking... so stamina healing could become a thing in the future. Would love khajiit to have magicka passives, but they're intended to be stamina just like redguards, bosmer, orcs, imperials and nords, who have no magical passive talents like altmer, dunmer or bretons. It would be nice for a breton to have stamina passives as a stamblade, but the way this game is designed is that they're no match for stamblade redguards, khajiit or bosmer.Edited by JazzyNova on January 15, 2019 3:08AM1 -
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✭✭✭If the past is anything to go by it will be a blanket nerf that will make many people have to run to the crown store for a race....change token
. Is this the balance??
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Note that this would work simply by removing the racial passives.JazzyNapkin wrote: »MartiniDaniels wrote: »
They will not change Khajiit into magic or make bosmer an tank race.If they make my poossycat race do spell crit instead of weapon crit, ima be sooooo mayd
High chance they will nerf the racial passives. the +weapon crit live a bit dangerous so does +attribute, specials like the Redguard and Argonians ones much more so.
You will not end up worse compared to other races unless they mess it up who is plausible.
Why is that, there was some leak from devs? From what i heard they plan to make every race viable for all roles.
I have thought a little about it too myself, but while it is true about making races viable for all roles... it most likely won't mean they'll turn redguards & khajiit into magicka dps or bretons into stamina dps, it means makes them more viable for dps, healing and tanking... so stamina healing could become a thing in the future. Would love khajiit to have magicka passives, but they're intended to be stamina just like redguards, bosmer, orcs, imperials and nords, who have no magical passive talents like altmer, dunmer or bretons. It would be nice for a breton to have stamina passives as a stamblade, but the way this game is designed is that they're no match for stamblade redguards, khajiit or bosmer.
The main problem in Oblivion playing an female Bosmer or Khajiit is the low strength, also if you are an magic build as you can not carry much loot.
And yes they should add sex to the passives as it was in the base games. In the ESO standard males get +10% stamina but -10% magic and to compensate females get the other way.
Grinding just make you go in circles.
Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.0 -
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Note that this would work simply by removing the racial passives.JazzyNapkin wrote: »MartiniDaniels wrote: »
They will not change Khajiit into magic or make bosmer an tank race.If they make my poossycat race do spell crit instead of weapon crit, ima be sooooo mayd
High chance they will nerf the racial passives. the +weapon crit live a bit dangerous so does +attribute, specials like the Redguard and Argonians ones much more so.
You will not end up worse compared to other races unless they mess it up who is plausible.
Why is that, there was some leak from devs? From what i heard they plan to make every race viable for all roles.
I have thought a little about it too myself, but while it is true about making races viable for all roles... it most likely won't mean they'll turn redguards & khajiit into magicka dps or bretons into stamina dps, it means makes them more viable for dps, healing and tanking... so stamina healing could become a thing in the future. Would love khajiit to have magicka passives, but they're intended to be stamina just like redguards, bosmer, orcs, imperials and nords, who have no magical passive talents like altmer, dunmer or bretons. It would be nice for a breton to have stamina passives as a stamblade, but the way this game is designed is that they're no match for stamblade redguards, khajiit or bosmer.
The main problem in Oblivion playing an female Bosmer or Khajiit is the low strength, also if you are an magic build as you can not carry much loot.
And yes they should add sex to the passives as it was in the base games. In the ESO standard males get +10% stamina but -10% magic and to compensate females get the other way.
Interesting, I came to ESO in early-mid 2017 so I wouldn't know a thing about the sex differences with passives... since I played male and female toons have equal magicka or stamina.
I wish I could make a bosmer magden too, but just gonna have to accept that they'll never be as strong as an altmer or dunmer magden. Or a khajiit magplar or magDK not being as strong neitherEdited by JazzyNova on January 15, 2019 3:40AM0 -
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✭✭✭✭I hope it's not too drastic.
Some racials do need a buff.
Nord and Breton need touching up a bit. Maybe add physical resist to the Breton spell resist passive. Or some sort of damage boost. Nord could do with something too, not sure what. Maybe some sustain help like reduced cost maybe.
Argonians aren't too strong in PvP, it just synergises really good with magica templar. Don't think the whole race should be nerfed because of that though.
Now read that again, but slowly.0 -
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✭Leave Argonians the same but give Dunmer a passive that instantly enslaves them within 5m. Balance0
