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Sorc's Bolt Escape Change
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CaptainVenom wrote: »Bolt Escape needs a rework, actually. Why always moving forward? This spell should enable you to teleport to where you are moving (right, left or back).
Just read this and it blew my mind, that would be so FUN. Many games have done this and I haven't seen this mentioned much at all on the forums.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=SWBe6WFD8fY&t=406s
https://youtube.com/watch?v=npYmcXJVljM
Hope this isn't against TOS, merely an example of a game that had teleportation where I think ESO could adopt that for sorcs.
There's many other problems that need to be fixed with the ability like cost and actual effectiveness, but this simple change or at least to one of the morphs would make it viable in so many different ways.
Imagine a bow build where you can cast backwards. You can already do this by doing 180 spins, but it's much harder to do when the way the skill works freezes you in place and takes away all momentum after cast.
Sorc's Bolt Escape Change 56 votes
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rafaelcsmaia✭✭✭✭✭
✭I actually think dragon age inquisition's ice walk spell is a way nicer way of implementing dash skills1 -
MashmalloMan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yesrafaelcsmaia wrote: »I actually think dragon age inquisition's ice walk spell is a way nicer way of implementing dash skills
OH THANK YOU, that was the game I was trying to think of. I thought of the wizard skill from diablo 3, but that didn't look right as an example..
Actually I was thinking more along the lines of shade step from rouge, but fade step from mages was longer and allowed you to turn left or right in the animation, kinda cool. Added those to OP.0 -
Crixus8000✭✭✭✭✭
✭YesThe skill needs updating. Being able to move where your character is moving instead of facing would be great but it also should have a faster animation and move over terrain better. Very often it will just get stuck on a hill or slow you down because you landed on lower ground, and times like this combined with how slow it activates can usually make it more trouble than helpful.0 -
Demra✭✭✭Marshall1289 wrote: »CaptainVenom wrote: »Bolt Escape needs a rework, actually. Why always moving forward? This spell should enable you to teleport to where you are moving (right, left or back).
Just read this and it blew my mind, that would be so FUN. Many games have done this and I haven't seen this mentioned much at all on the forums.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=SWBe6WFD8fY&t=406s
Hope this isn't against TOS, merely an example of a game that had teleportation where I think ESO could adopt that for sorcs.
There's many other problems that need to be fixed with the ability like cost and actual effectiveness, but this simple change or at least to one of the morphs would make it viable in so many different ways.
Imagine a bow build where you can cast backwards. You can already do this by doing 180 spins, but it's much harder to do when the way the skill works freezes you in place and takes away all momentum after cast.
Which game is that? The one with the archer.0 -
MashmalloMan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭YesWhich game is that? The one with the archer.
That would be dragonage inquisition. Very fun game, actually reminded me of eso in a lot of ways last I played it.
Side note: Try not to quote entire original posts :P0 -
mateosalvaje✭✭✭✭YesI haven't used bolt escape more than a handful of times (sorc main since ps4 release) but side and back movement might make it interesting enough.I've been wrong before, and I'll be wrong again.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭YesThe short range teleport in Kingdom of Amalur was another fun one. It replaced dodge roll once you invested into mage skills.0 -
Wuuffyy✭✭✭✭✭
✭NoSorc needs more nerfs so no.Wuuffyy,
WW/berserker playstyle advocate (I play ALL classes proficiently in PvP outside of WW as well)
ESO player since 2014 (Xbox and PC for PTS)
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RaptorRodeoGod✭✭✭✭✭YesMake it work like dodge; able to move in any direction and has dodge frames.Add a Scribing skill that works like Arcanist beam.
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jcm2606✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭YesThey need to rework it in general to just feel better. The self-snare should go, it should be a fluid dash in any direction.
Would also like the "targeting" for Bolt Escape be reworked so that you can look at a specific location and you will dash to that location, within a certain range. Say it currently dashes you forward 16 meters (not sure how far it actually dashes forward), if you want to dash to an enemy 10 meters away, you can simply look at his feet and Bolt Escape will stop at that location.
In general, I like the idea of Bolt Escape being an actual option you can use to move around the battlefield, rather than just a gap closer / escape tool. Reworking it in general to feel better would make it considerably better as a mobility tool, however changing the "targeting" as I suggested would significantly improve it as a mobility tool.2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭YesI've been suggesting this for years... This post makes me want to cry, 😂#CAREBEARMASTERRACE1 -
Priyasekarssk✭✭✭✭✭YesMarshall1289 wrote: »CaptainVenom wrote: »Bolt Escape needs a rework, actually. Why always moving forward? This spell should enable you to teleport to where you are moving (right, left or back).
Just read this and it blew my mind, that would be so FUN. Many games have done this and I haven't seen this mentioned much at all on the forums.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=SWBe6WFD8fY&t=406s
https://youtube.com/watch?v=npYmcXJVljM
Hope this isn't against TOS, merely an example of a game that had teleportation where I think ESO could adopt that for sorcs.
There's many other problems that need to be fixed with the ability like cost and actual effectiveness, but this simple change or at least to one of the morphs would make it viable in so many different ways.
Imagine a bow build where you can cast backwards. You can already do this by doing 180 spins, but it's much harder to do when the way the skill works freezes you in place and takes away all momentum after cast.
Remember zoe only agenda is to nerf sorc to appease ...... I am sure sorc will be gutted to non existent. Don't dream.1 -
gepe87✭✭✭✭✭
✭YesIncrease range or no penalty or major expedition. Its our defense.Gepe, Dunmer MagSorc Pact Grand Overlord | Gaepe, Bosmer MagSorc Dominion General
If you see edits on my replies: typos. English isn't my main language0 -
Feanor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Expect changes (read: nerfs) with the fabled upcoming Sorc offensive rework 2019.Main characters: Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 50 - Flawless Conqueror (PC EU)Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)Other characters:Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial NecromancerFearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDKValirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBladeTuruna - AD Altmer magBladeKheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDKKibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - StormproofYavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWardenAzog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWardenVidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDKMarquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - StormproofRawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWardenTu'waccah - AD Redguard StamplarAll chars 50 @ CP 1900+. Playing and enjoying PvP with RdK mostly on PC EU.2 -
CaptainVenom✭✭✭✭✭
✭YesYes please! Also I recorded another video to help you demonstrate our idea: Tracer's Blink skill, from Overwatch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fGyU9yXs-s&feature=youtu.be 🌈 Ride with Pride🌈
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NordSwordnBoard✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭YesOh boy, the possibilities!
If they won't change the numbers, just enable this.Fear is the Mindkiller1 -
MashmalloMan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭YesExpect changes (read: nerfs) with the fabled upcoming Sorc offensive rework 2019.
Hopefully in time for necromancer like the nerfs to templar before warden.
Honestly, I've been holding out hope since they said something about a rework in the class rep notes before Murkmire and I don't really see how they can make sorc's any worse.0 -
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✭Marshall1289 wrote: »Expect changes (read: nerfs) with the fabled upcoming Sorc offensive rework 2019.
Hopefully in time for necromancer like the nerfs to templar before warden.
Honestly, I've been holding out hope since they said something about a rework in the class rep notes before Murkmire and I don't really see how they can make sorc's any worse.
You lack imagination!
... they don't!
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Mintaka5✭✭✭✭✭YesHell yeah! I hate bolt escape's mechanic. Fleeing as a defense with no ability to counter until you turn around is garbage. It's like they took the 2Her and NB gap closers and made it linear not needing a target. My inner dialogue while escaping, "Am I safe yet?" Turns around to check incoming zerg. "Oh ***!" ZERGED =(
I'd even take a free camera rotation, and a skill lock while escaping, but it would be nice to defend yourself while getting out of a ***.1 -
twofaced✭✭✭YesThis will bring clunky and broken ESO combat to awesome BDO mechanics. Maybe 10 more years and we get combos and adequate animation sequences.1
