Id take teso and leave wow.



Sorry I never played wow but I wanted to post anyway.

Hope you find this helpful.

I wonder if anyone in the WoW community constantly compares their game to ESO at all.

I'm just going to replace WoW with other MMO I've played because OP seems to be confused and doesn't realize other MMO exist besides ESO and WoW

mostly a pvp perspective
Action Combat (the game's pvp is superior in almost every way)
Corsair's Stronghold style battleground
PvP depth even without build system (mostly by charms and crystals slotted to gears)
gear that can be customized (path of exile is very expansive with this)
portable campfires
flying mounts
open world pvp everywhere
can't respawn in deathmatch
some 4 v 4 and 3 v 3 bg where it's not as big a map
world bosses that move about on the map
actual combos (requires cooldowns and their associated rhythm)
Thieves vs Hunters and Traders, triangular combat trade routes and incentive to leave cities other than to do instance and grind
make instances feel less like they're breaking the 4th wall. this includes ceasing to have every dungeon and battleground queueable from a menu. it does wonders for immersion.
Only 2 stats STR and INT stat (HP/MP), governing the 3 pools. the point system seems to be too absolute for a pool that is constantly filling and draining.
open world pvp everywhere
world bosses that move about on the map and draw multiple parties of people
alloying/crafting system
economy: only game where I actually participated in a live marketplace outside of Varrock Bank.
mining done in mines (as well as random spots)
no loading screens between world zones
epic quests

restoring my soul is great and all but it seems like a box I would need to check just to begin the journey into Tamriel.
More than 6 skills available to cast at once
SOME FORM OF COOLDOWN. it doesn't need to be a hard limit, but it ties in with above suggestion. one of the reasons we're limited to 6 skills is to create the illusion of 'rock paper scissors' and because we have 0 CD. the end result is that we drown in mechanics we can't counter and the allowance of builds that border on exploitation because unless you're building to counter everything without being able to do anything else, it will be impossible to fight.
pots not having linked CDs even when they do completely different stuff
having an HP pot trigger the MP pot CD only serves to force people to spend ludicrous sums of already inflated currency on tri restoration pots
not spamming players with junk rewards I'll get 100 hundred times over and only ever deconstruct and sell, when there is highly limited space in inbox and inventory

some kind of diversity to abilities...similar to request to add more than 6 skills per bar, but willing to take literally any other solution including a way to modify how the skill is casted in real time
include a way to build for sustain and speed ... other than recovery enchantments and sets that give expedition.
CC immunity removed when casting execute. defending when you're below 50% HP is way harder than it should be because if you proc their CC invuln too early, you're dead, if you proc it too late you're dead.
larger world
better AI that figures out when NPC are ganked and investigates
guards that can die
werewolf HP nerf to 50%
fewer diseases that give massive benefits without permanent consequences
able to interact with menus and chat during loading screens
more ways to interact with world
more puzzles and pattern matching in dungeon. dungeon is just an elongated instance that you must do in serial, there is nothing unique about them that requires thought. the mechanics are boring.
get a team of people who know how to DnD or design mazes/puzzles (like in Portal) and have them release a new dungeon every two months or so that actually is fun to do with a group of friends because it requires multiple styles of thinking in order to pass.

madmax911 wrote: »

Just a fun mind play. So if you bought the 2 companies making these 2 games. What would you take from one of them and leave from the other?

As some one who resebed to wow and have yet to touch it over eso day use. I would go eso

I would like the seamless world of Warcraft. But anything else from Teso, except proc sets, resource poisons and animation cancelling.

MaxJrFTW wrote: »

ESO is the better game imo. With that said, WoW has better end game content. I prefer the PvP from WoW, not a fan of the whole XvXvX nonsense in battlegrounds, and i would love if ESO added arenas. Mythic raids > vet trials, and pve combat design in general is better in WoW. There's also the fact that 99% of the cosmetic items in WoW are obtained in-game.

If PVE, PVP and in game cosmetics are all better in WOW how does ESO end up being the better game?

I agree on the cosmetic and mount part, would like this added as an additional thing on top of skins/titles but those come with a guaranteed drop, cosmetics/mounts come with a low rate but give it repeat value and re-sell opportunities
Other than that ping/FPS is much more stable in wow for me so I’d love that however I’m guessing that’s more down to the graphics being a hell of a lot better in ESO than WoW

WoW has been one of the most stable MMO games (I've played it for 15+ years) when it comes to performance and latency. If I could only take one thing from WoW, I would take that.

My list

Graphics: ESO
World: ESO
Quests: ESO
Dungeons: ESO/WoW (split)
Raids: WoW
Gameplay: ESO
Crafting: ESO
Performance, stability and latency: WoW
Store and microtransactions: WoW (there is too much focus on the crown store, that isn't the case for WoW)
PvP: WoW
Music: ESO
Collectibles: WoW
Content difficulty: WoW
Classes: WoW
Races/Racials: ESO
Level progression: ESO
Character customization: ESO (WoW butchered this with their homogenisation)

If you had asked me about this 10 years ago (hypothetically, as ESO didn't exist at that point in time), I would have taken more from WoW. I do feel that WoW has been on a decline the last 6+ years, and it's not the game I fell in love with anymore. As it looks right now, I enjoy ESO more, with the exception of the performance, which is also the reason I've taken breaks from ESO multiple times.

I wonder if anyone in the WoW community constantly compares their game to ESO at all.

AlienatedGoat wrote: »

idk wrote: »

I cannot think of anything in WoW I would want added to ESO.

In-game earnable mounts. Lots of them.

Dont forget the mount Ross dropped a benjamin on for each of the Guild Grumps. ESO DEFINITELY needs those right?

Eso. Bfa is a horrible expansion

The bank/auction house interface from wow is pretty good, while eso's is terribly bad both in terms of design and performance, and bugged by incredibly annoying delays especially in prim timee. Who here loves "waiting for previous request" and similar errors when trying to use guild banks or guild traders to either post or buy items?

ESO's combat and flexible roles and build systems is awesome on the other hand and I would not trade it with the strict builds and roles system in wow.