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How do they do it (NB stamina)
Knootewoot
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So, i have always been a magicka NB and i need to try something new. I was thinking either play stamblade or stamwarden.
I always watch enemies fight from the shadows to see if they are a victim or my ticket to the nearest shrine. Sometimes i try to figure out their build.
I sometimes see stamina NB run around, not getting hit by, cloaking every 5 secs, not run out of resources it seems, but they hit like a truck. Whilst i use to avoid stamDK's which are tanky as hell i see those stamina blades use 2-handed and rip them apart with their 2 handed in less then 2 seconds.
Which armors they use? Spriggans and another damage set? How can nobody hit them and they kill all?
Thanks for insight
Edited by Knootewoot on January 10, 2019 7:24PM I always watch enemies fight from the shadows to see if they are a victim or my ticket to the nearest shrine. Sometimes i try to figure out their build.
I sometimes see stamina NB run around, not getting hit by, cloaking every 5 secs, not run out of resources it seems, but they hit like a truck. Whilst i use to avoid stamDK's which are tanky as hell i see those stamina blades use 2-handed and rip them apart with their 2 handed in less then 2 seconds.
Which armors they use? Spriggans and another damage set? How can nobody hit them and they kill all?
Thanks for insight
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"I am a nightblade. Blending the disciplines of the stealthy agent and subtle wizard, I move unseen and undetected, foil locks and traps, and teleport to safety when threatened, or strike like a viper from ambush. The College of Illusion hides me and fuddles or pacifies my opponents. The College of Mysticism detects my object, reflects and dispels enemy spells, and makes good my escape. The key to a nightblade's success is avoidance, by spell or by stealth; with these skills, all things are possible."
"I am a nightblade. Blending the disciplines of the stealthy agent and subtle wizard, I move unseen and undetected, foil locks and traps, and teleport to safety when threatened, or strike like a viper from ambush. The College of Illusion hides me and fuddles or pacifies my opponents. The College of Mysticism detects my object, reflects and dispels enemy spells, and makes good my escape. The key to a nightblade's success is avoidance, by spell or by stealth; with these skills, all things are possible."
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✭✭✭✭✭You can do it a few ways. A lot of stamblades run bone pirate for the sustain and then spriggans or another damage enabling set. I personally run a Shacklebreaker/Innate Axiom combo. It hits pretty hard and I have the added magicka and mag regen for cloak.2 -
mursie✭✭✭✭✭First - you need magicka recovery somewhere near 1,000 so that you can cloak a few successive times in order to give the false appearance of 'unlimited" magicka resources. infact you have about 9 to 12 seconds of continuous cloak and you're dry.
Second - you need sufficient damage to execute within a small window. Sufficient is something in excess of 3.5K weapon dmg. I would shoot north of 4K in battlegrounds.
Third - you need to approach victim from stealth, apply fracture via a surprise attack, utilize your fear cc successfully, and land your most brutal and deadly damage attack - the incap ultimate.
Fourth - execute a low health target with defile and dmg boost modifiers using your execute ability of choice.
Fifth - profit.
Sets that accomplish goal in battlegrounds: spriggans with bone pirate. u can use a number of other sets: hulking, sheer venom, hundings, etc...
the key is having sufficient weapon damage, landing your open, fearing your target correctly, and then landing the incap during their downtime within the fear. if you do that your chance to execute goes up tremendously. then you've got decent magicka to cloak up and get out of dodge to rinse and repeat again.
good luck.
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Knootewoot✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭First - you need magicka recovery somewhere near 1,000 so that you can cloak a few successive times in order to give the false appearance of 'unlimited" magicka resources. infact you have about 9 to 12 seconds of continuous cloak and you're dry.
Second - you need sufficient damage to execute within a small window. Sufficient is something in excess of 3.5K weapon dmg. I would shoot north of 4K in battlegrounds.
Third - you need to approach victim from stealth, apply fracture via a surprise attack, utilize your fear cc successfully, and land your most brutal and deadly damage attack - the incap ultimate.
Fourth - execute a low health target with defile and dmg boost modifiers using your execute ability of choice.
Fifth - profit.
Sets that accomplish goal in battlegrounds: spriggans with bone pirate. u can use a number of other sets: hulking, sheer venom, hundings, etc...
the key is having sufficient weapon damage, landing your open, fearing your target correctly, and then landing the incap during their downtime within the fear. if you do that your chance to execute goes up tremendously. then you've got decent magicka to cloak up and get out of dodge to rinse and repeat again.
good luck.
Thanks man.
I tried using sheer venom and swamp raider. Looked good on paper but didn't do what i wanted. Ill try some more.٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶
"I am a nightblade. Blending the disciplines of the stealthy agent and subtle wizard, I move unseen and undetected, foil locks and traps, and teleport to safety when threatened, or strike like a viper from ambush. The College of Illusion hides me and fuddles or pacifies my opponents. The College of Mysticism detects my object, reflects and dispels enemy spells, and makes good my escape. The key to a nightblade's success is avoidance, by spell or by stealth; with these skills, all things are possible."0 -
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✭✭✭Edit Woops i made a double quote on msyelf
What i dont understand is why stamblades can still cloak when i mark them. Does it now only work on stealth instead of cloak? (i know it was nerfed somewhere but cant find it)Edited by Knootewoot on January 10, 2019 7:51PM٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶
"I am a nightblade. Blending the disciplines of the stealthy agent and subtle wizard, I move unseen and undetected, foil locks and traps, and teleport to safety when threatened, or strike like a viper from ambush. The College of Illusion hides me and fuddles or pacifies my opponents. The College of Mysticism detects my object, reflects and dispels enemy spells, and makes good my escape. The key to a nightblade's success is avoidance, by spell or by stealth; with these skills, all things are possible."0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Knootewoot wrote: »Edit Woops i made a double quote on msyelf
What i dont understand is why stamblades can still cloak when i mark them. Does it now only work on stealth instead of cloak? (i know it was nerfed somewhere but cant find it)
You have the right mark version? Probably a stupid question but outside of that, purge. It got nerfed from 30 seconds to like 6.0 -
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✭✭✭Knootewoot wrote: »Edit Woops i made a double quote on msyelf
What i dont understand is why stamblades can still cloak when i mark them. Does it now only work on stealth instead of cloak? (i know it was nerfed somewhere but cant find it)
You have the right mark version? Probably a stupid question but outside of that, purge. It got nerfed from 30 seconds to like 6.
Yeah, i always have had piercing mark.
Weird is... i crafted detection potions... and people just cloaked through them when standing near my feet.
My guess is lag then. Seen some vids of people dying while the mob was already 200 yards away.٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶
"I am a nightblade. Blending the disciplines of the stealthy agent and subtle wizard, I move unseen and undetected, foil locks and traps, and teleport to safety when threatened, or strike like a viper from ambush. The College of Illusion hides me and fuddles or pacifies my opponents. The College of Mysticism detects my object, reflects and dispels enemy spells, and makes good my escape. The key to a nightblade's success is avoidance, by spell or by stealth; with these skills, all things are possible."0 -
Mrsinister2✭✭✭✭✭Knootewoot wrote: »Knootewoot wrote: »Edit Woops i made a double quote on msyelf
What i dont understand is why stamblades can still cloak when i mark them. Does it now only work on stealth instead of cloak? (i know it was nerfed somewhere but cant find it)
You have the right mark version? Probably a stupid question but outside of that, purge. It got nerfed from 30 seconds to like 6.
Yeah, i always have had piercing mark.
Weird is... i crafted detection potions... and people just cloaked through them when standing near my feet.
My guess is lag then. Seen some vids of people dying while the mob was already 200 yards away.
Somtimes when you think a nb cloaked they ported back to there shade.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I've seen a couple times when using a detect pot the NB just disappear and reappear a couple seconds later. I'm thinking it is lag causing a delay in recognizing the detect, but most the time is shadow image or that Psijiik ultimate1 -
Mintaka5✭✭✭✭✭First - you need magicka recovery somewhere near 1,000 so that you can cloak a few successive times in order to give the false appearance of 'unlimited" magicka resources. infact you have about 9 to 12 seconds of continuous cloak and you're dry.
Second - you need sufficient damage to execute within a small window. Sufficient is something in excess of 3.5K weapon dmg. I would shoot north of 4K in battlegrounds.
Third - you need to approach victim from stealth, apply fracture via a surprise attack, utilize your fear cc successfully, and land your most brutal and deadly damage attack - the incap ultimate.
Fourth - execute a low health target with defile and dmg boost modifiers using your execute ability of choice.
Fifth - profit.
Sets that accomplish goal in battlegrounds: spriggans with bone pirate. u can use a number of other sets: hulking, sheer venom, hundings, etc...
the key is having sufficient weapon damage, landing your open, fearing your target correctly, and then landing the incap during their downtime within the fear. if you do that your chance to execute goes up tremendously. then you've got decent magicka to cloak up and get out of dodge to rinse and repeat again.
good luck.
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✭✭✭I've seen a couple times when using a detect pot the NB just disappear and reappear a couple seconds later. I'm thinking it is lag causing a delay in recognizing the detect, but most the time is shadow image or that Psijiik ultimate
Could be in some occasions. But what I talk about is no shade, as they pop out of stealth around same area. I think it is lag or desync or something.
I tried PvP on Boetiah today and although lag was still there..it was way less then Vivec.٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶
"I am a nightblade. Blending the disciplines of the stealthy agent and subtle wizard, I move unseen and undetected, foil locks and traps, and teleport to safety when threatened, or strike like a viper from ambush. The College of Illusion hides me and fuddles or pacifies my opponents. The College of Mysticism detects my object, reflects and dispels enemy spells, and makes good my escape. The key to a nightblade's success is avoidance, by spell or by stealth; with these skills, all things are possible."0 -
Slack✭✭✭✭✭I'm using bone pirate, Spriggan, velidreth.
Make sure to be constantly moving and keep shuffle active, otherwise the AoE will melt yoiPC EU
Betty Breeze - Magwarden
Hunts S'hitblades - Stamplar
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✭✭✭Go for high weapondmg/stamina, decent regen and a lot of critical damage (crit dmg, not crit chance) and hope that your burst crits otherwise try to back off and kite until you get your burst back up.Edited by Ragnaroek93 on January 10, 2019 10:40PMI used to think that PvP was a tragedy, but now I realize, it's a comedy.0 -
Kova✭✭✭✭✭To add to the others, playing as a stamblade I'm not necessarily playing on the best regen. I just know how much my burst will cost and how much escaping costs. With that knowledge I approach different players according to their own class designs.
Magicka classes can be pretty defensive BUT usually have some build-up to their burst, so once I shake any dots I know I can dive in and get a few big hits in before their first attack even goes off.
Stamina classes are a bit different. Most of them can attack and do damage as quickly as I can, but unless they have poisons or something else that draws me out of stealth, it's about timing the execute window between their burst heals.
Even stam dks, unless played really well, will usually bite it after a good incap to execute combo.EP Sorc: Aydinn
AD Stamplar: Verdant`Knight
DC Stamblade: Apple`Punch
EP Stam Sorc: Kós
AD DragonKnight: Transmigrant
EP NIghtblade: Aydinn0