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“... end the misguided three-banners war...” Will ZOS finally evolve the game’s lore?

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Possibly change the concept of Cyrodiil? Create a new main quest? Rework some of the zones?

That poor elf in Rawl’kha has been in the stocks for over 4 years now, that’s got to be an overly hard punishment for dumping a bit of refuse.
Edited by spoqster on January 10, 2019 1:21AM

“... end the misguided three-banners war...” Will ZOS finally evolve the game’s lore? 171 votes

Yes, full scale: Cataclysm
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New main quest and new setting for Cyro
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They’ll only change the lore for Cyro, but won’t touch the 3-way setting
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No way they’ll do something audacious like that
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  • Oakmontowls_ESO
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    Yea delete pvp
  • Sylvermynx
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    No idea really - but I'm betting they won't change much at all.
  • kojou
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    No way they’ll do something audacious like that
    You will likely be fixing and unintended consequence of trying to stop the war, but will not actually succeed at stopping the war.
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  • russelmmendoza
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    Free for all pvp in cyro.
    Guild center/focus battle.
    Any guild can take town/castle/area.
    Make said town/castle/area their base.
    Basically everyone is mercenary.
  • Bekkael
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    Unknown, but probably not a huge game changer.
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  • Siohwenoeht
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    Yea delete pvp

    Yea... Not happening lol.

    But I think we could see some modifications to the main story, although being the vestige is vital to the story of every player character currently in game, it could be condensed into a true intro quest that every new player does. I'm not a fan of forcing the start at the newest content and it could wrap the molag bal storyline up nice and tidy in the beginning.

    As far as cyrodiil, if the three banners war ends, it could go to a pve zone but only if heavily redesigned and probably made smaller. You'd have to then make a new open world pvp option somehow and throw a new reason for players to be fighting each other.

    All in all, it may be the direction we're heading but seems to be too much for just one year of content. My best guess would be this entire year is spent ending the conflict in cyro and then lead into a new PVP conflict next year.
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  • spoqster
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    They’ll only change the lore for Cyro, but won’t touch the 3-way setting
    All in all, it may be the direction we're heading but seems to be too much for just one year of content. My best guess would be this entire year is spent ending the conflict in cyro and then lead into a new PVP conflict next year.

    Good point
  • Khivas_Carrick
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    Yes, full scale: Cataclysm
    Here's what ya do: make a brand new full scale all of Tamriel main quest Cataclysm style for those that have done the main quest and Caldwell's Silver and Gold.

    If you haven't, keep the old main quest open for those that wanna do it via Caldwell.

    Cyro can be open war in the past or a brand new PvE and optional PvP zone, i.e cleaning up the place since Molag Bal is bounced out now.
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  • Tasear
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    I support freeing poor elf in rawlka.
  • Llyw
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    Yea delete pvp

    This is not going to happen.

    Yes PvE only players do greatly out number the PvP only players. Deleting PvP from ESO when the game was initially sold as PvP was to be the end game would be bad for Zenima's bottom line. I do not believe they want to loose the revenue from loosing the PvP player base as well as some of the player base of the folks who actually play both.(I know as one who plays both PvE and PvP I would drop this game like a hot potato if they drop either one)

    And for back ground on how this game was initially marketed here is a link about 6 min and 50 or so seconds I believe is the end game discussed

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxJTsq2XeKY
  • idk
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    Has a major MMORPG rewritten major story lines 5 years out?

    The money is in creating new content, new story lines, not reworking what they already did since it really does not add anything to the game.

    Those that want new story lines will obtain access to the DLCs one way or another.
  • Khivas_Carrick
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    Yes, full scale: Cataclysm
    idk wrote: »
    Has a major MMORPG rewritten major story lines 5 years out?

    The money is in creating new content, new story lines, not reworking what they already did since it really does not add anything to the game.

    Those that want new story lines will obtain access to the DLCs one way or another.

    Didn't WoW do this just past the 5 year mark?
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  • Vapirko
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    Every patch ZOS makes grandiose claims about what's up coming. And every patch we all lose it thinking they're finally going to fix and balance everything. And several weeks after every patch, when the dust settles, we realize it's jus the same game it has always been with the same quest types, the same bugs and issues (and maybe new ones), and nothing ever really changes. It's their job to create hype to get you to buy the next expansion or DLC. They're always going to make it seem huge. My prediction is very little to nothing will change in Cyrodiil or it will just get worse somehow.
  • Sylvermynx
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    No idea really - but I'm betting they won't change much at all.
    idk wrote: »
    Has a major MMORPG rewritten major story lines 5 years out?

    The money is in creating new content, new story lines, not reworking what they already did since it really does not add anything to the game.

    Those that want new story lines will obtain access to the DLCs one way or another.

    Didn't WoW do this just past the 5 year mark?

    Yes. For me it was the beginning of the end.... I managed another year and a half - and then I just quit. Never been back.
  • Loves_guars
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    Yes, full scale: Cataclysm
    2 timelines one with war (to play cyrodiil and do the old quest) and one without war with PVE Cyrodiil.
  • spoqster
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    They’ll only change the lore for Cyro, but won’t touch the 3-way setting
    Sylvermynx wrote: »
    No idea really - but I'm betting they won't change much at all.
    idk wrote: »
    Has a major MMORPG rewritten major story lines 5 years out?

    The money is in creating new content, new story lines, not reworking what they already did since it really does not add anything to the game.

    Those that want new story lines will obtain access to the DLCs one way or another.

    Didn't WoW do this just past the 5 year mark?

    Yes. For me it was the beginning of the end.... I managed another year and a half - and then I just quit. Never been back.

    They could do with some smaller changes. Evolve the background story in Cyrodiil, like having guilds fight independently for themselves, and adjust the backdrops for the major cities. That would freshen the game up while not driving anyone away.
  • Faulgor
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    No way they’ll do something audacious like that
    Free for all pvp in cyro.
    Guild center/focus battle.
    Any guild can take town/castle/area.
    Make said town/castle/area their base.
    Basically everyone is mercenary.

    That would be fantastic. Guild-based PvP is much more enjoyable in my experience than this faction-based system.
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  • Sharee
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    Faulgor wrote: »
    Free for all pvp in cyro.
    Guild center/focus battle.
    Any guild can take town/castle/area.
    Make said town/castle/area their base.
    Basically everyone is mercenary.

    That would be fantastic. Guild-based PvP is much more enjoyable in my experience than this faction-based system.

    They would lose players. I'm only in the game for the PvP, and i've never been in a guild (except for a short period before guild merchants were a thing). Been in other games, decided i could do without the drama this time.

    Faction based system is good at its core, they just need to promote faction loyalty and get rid of the balance problems (no more alliance switching and dynamic pop caps).
    Edited by Sharee on January 10, 2019 11:03AM
  • Seraphayel
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    No way they’ll do something audacious like that
    No way they put so much work into the game; why not you'd ask? Because they cannot monetize it.

    Getting rid of the Three Banners War would need a complete overhaul of the "Vanilla" game. This would make sense because the story has already been crippled but in no way they are going to revamp 15+ zones.
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  • MajBludd
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    @Vapirko sounds like morrowind, where all the hype came from the devs. Then we got the sustain nerfs and even worse performance in cyro.
  • RebornV3x
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    There will always be Cyrodill PVP I doubt that's going away but I hope we get some much needed tweaks to improve performance and just overall fun.
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  • frostz417
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    No way they’ll do something audacious like that
    Doubt anything will change... at least not without zos royally screwing up again and once again destroy balancing and adding in another hundred bugs without fixing any. But sometimes I think, can it possibly get any worse? I’m proven wrong every patch
  • SaintSubwayy
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    They’ll only change the lore for Cyro, but won’t touch the 3-way setting
    New Bridges and Outposts were added just recently, why add them, when PVP would undergo a massive rework?

    makes no sense to me actually, maybe they split IC from the Campains, and you have to rebuild it. That would make th emost sense to me, but as we have seems till this day, they never changed a DLC in any way, except Gear buffs or nerfs and bugfixes soo highly unlikely :/
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  • phairdon
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    They’ll only change the lore for Cyro, but won’t touch the 3-way setting
    Three banners war is going to end. Peace finally comes to Cyrodiil. However, a new war will raise its ugly head, taking pvp to a newly created zone.

    Doubt much is going to change.
    Edited by phairdon on January 10, 2019 11:55AM
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  • JaZ2091
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    Llyw wrote: »
    Yea delete pvp

    This is not going to happen.

    Yes PvE only players do greatly out number the PvP only players. Deleting PvP from ESO when the game was initially sold as PvP was to be the end game would be bad for Zenima's bottom line. I do not believe they want to loose the revenue from loosing the PvP player base as well as some of the player base of the folks who actually play both.(I know as one who plays both PvE and PvP I would drop this game like a hot potato if they drop either one)

    And for back ground on how this game was initially marketed here is a link about 6 min and 50 or so seconds I believe is the end game discussed

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxJTsq2XeKY

    There's like 100 people playing PVP. Can easily make up those losses with some Crown Store items.
  • Ananoriel
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    I guess that they make Cyrodiil a deathmatch PvP zone because that is trendy in gaming now.

    (No tbh I have no clue)
  • Leeched
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    JaZ2091 wrote: »
    There's like 100 people playing PVP. Can easily make up those losses with some Crown Store items.

    Say, how many PvE zones exist in this game? And there is ONE PvP zone. Why do people like you have to be so selfish and greedy so they want to destroy the fun for the "100 people playing PvP"?
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  • Lumsdenml
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    No way they’ll do something audacious like that
    JaZ2091 wrote: »
    Llyw wrote: »
    Yea delete pvp

    This is not going to happen.

    Yes PvE only players do greatly out number the PvP only players. Deleting PvP from ESO when the game was initially sold as PvP was to be the end game would be bad for Zenima's bottom line. I do not believe they want to loose the revenue from loosing the PvP player base as well as some of the player base of the folks who actually play both.(I know as one who plays both PvE and PvP I would drop this game like a hot potato if they drop either one)

    And for back ground on how this game was initially marketed here is a link about 6 min and 50 or so seconds I believe is the end game discussed

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxJTsq2XeKY

    There's like 100 people playing PVP. Can easily make up those losses with some Crown Store items.

    Ha... no, much more than that. You should give it a try...

    Would love a major change... new location would be cool. How about the ability to assassinate players in all zones? Ultimately I believe that would be too much work, and in reality, changes will be small.
    Edited by Lumsdenml on January 10, 2019 1:23PM
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  • TequilaFire
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    Even if storywise the three banners war ends it doesn't mean PvP Cyrodiil will end just as there are still dolmens in game after Molag Ball is defeated.
  • Reistr_the_Unbroken
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    Even if storywise the three banners war ends it doesn't mean PvP Cyrodiil will end just as there are still dolmens in game after Molag Ball is defeated.
    I just want a questline where I can join Molag’s side (in the future) but that will never happen lmao.
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