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Snipe From 40 Meters Shouldn't Stun
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Sharee✭✭✭✭✭
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18/1 is still lower then 22/0
Yes. But your challenge was to get similar K/D to your sniper, not to match or surpass it.
And we both know the number of kills you get also heavily depends on the quality of the opposition you get. I only ever played two matches, not hundreds that would allow me to cherry-pick the results that suit my agenda.
Anyway, i consider the case closed.2 -
Trancestor✭✭✭✭✭At the very least the stun from stealth and major defile should be removed from snipe, anyone who disagrees with that should not be PvPing ever.0 -
alainjbrennanb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭i understand this, i can get 5 snipe of before first hits, so they get pinned and the rest hit them, so they are dead, to me most skills need to be diff in pvp, not so many instant skills and the more peeps attacking their damage is lowered, as now in pvp, its very rare its 1-5 on you norm its 24+Main character dk - Vanikifar whitestrike0
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18/1 is still lower then 22/0
Yes. But your challenge was to get similar K/D to your sniper, not to match or surpass it.
And we both know the number of kills you get also heavily depends on the quality of the opposition you get. I only ever played two matches, not hundreds that would allow me to cherry-pick the results that suit my agenda.
Anyway, i consider the case closed.
Well I also linked 2 matches I had as lv 10. And as I said on same map (which is important factor considering my 2nd match was in the largest map that takes the longest time to travel between the fights) You had 18/1 and I had 26/1 which are not similar. I have ~40% more dmg and kills then You so yeah keep telling Yourself that's similar.Edited by Juhasow on December 25, 2018 12:44PM0 -
Shardaxx✭✭✭✭✭True stealth not cloak.Edited by Shardaxx on December 25, 2018 9:10PMPS4 - Europe - Shardaxx - Wood Elf Nightblade - Aldmeri Dominion0 -
Aliyavana✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭How some people see nothing wrong with a 40 meter dizzying swing with a defile and the occasional health dysync spam, or using cloak to run away (and have a 40 meter distance advantage thus being hard to track) their 40 meter stun plus gank attempt doesnt work.Edited by Aliyavana on January 10, 2019 6:59AM3 -
NyassaV✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭let me clarify the snipe has to come from being hidden in crouch, not hidden in cloak, in order for it to stun. There is a fair difference.
I swapped my magblade to a bowtard and have never felt more powerful so yes plz nerf snipeFlawless Conqueror ~ Grand OverlordShe/Her ~ PC/NA | I record things for fun and for info2 -
Cavedog✭✭✭✭✭
✭Snipe is OP right now....and so is the knock back from a bow skill.
How about AP from stealth is cut in half? .....that sounds good to me. That way idiots can't stealth snipe their way to emp...because that most assuredly should not be a thing.3 -
Mintaka5✭✭✭✭✭dwemer_paleologist wrote: »stop trying to destroy snipe
stop trying to destroy our ranged playstyle every single day making request threads to destroy archer playstyle.
nothing wrong with what we have, its been here since 5+ years.
this is really childish and selfish.
YES DESTROY IT!!!!!
Why are bowtards so QQ
Edited by Mintaka5 on January 8, 2019 6:39PM3 -
TequilaFire✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Snipe is OP right now....and so is the knock back from a bow skill.
How about AP from stealth is cut in half? .....that sounds good to me. That way idiots can't stealth snipe their way to emp...because that most assuredly should not be a thing.
No one gets to emp just using snipe. lmao
Edited by TequilaFire on January 8, 2019 6:53PM0 -
Zeromaz✭✭✭✭I won’t read this entire post but cloak will not enable a stun attack. Its SNEAK that will... so literally anyone can do it. Its not a NB specific feature2 -
Girl_Number8✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Lot's of cry about Snipe lately.
I have a Snipe character, and it hits hard, but you know what? To be able to hit hard, I'm completely made out of glass. Survive the initial attack, like MOST good PvP'ers do, and I end up easily dying.
It's balanced. The gain you get in offense is offset by the losses in defense.
This^^
I like playing all the classes but I wipe nbs out. I played them enough to know the counters. There are plenty of counters for everyone to nbs and honestly snipe is a joke. I feel it is a fair skill for them because they have to put all their buffs and build for it to be really anywhere near effective.
I think this is a learn to die issue.
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Cavedog✭✭✭✭✭
✭TequilaFire wrote: »Snipe is OP right now....and so is the knock back from a bow skill.
How about AP from stealth is cut in half? .....that sounds good to me. That way idiots can't stealth snipe their way to emp...because that most assuredly should not be a thing.
No one gets to emp just using snipe. lmao
Really? Check the leader boards in Vivec right now for AD. The name says it all.
You, sir, stand corrected.
As I was saying, this should not be a thing that can happen.0 -
TequilaFire✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭TequilaFire wrote: »Snipe is OP right now....and so is the knock back from a bow skill.
How about AP from stealth is cut in half? .....that sounds good to me. That way idiots can't stealth snipe their way to emp...because that most assuredly should not be a thing.
No one gets to emp just using snipe. lmao
Really? Check the leader boards in Vivec right now for AD. The name says it all.
You, sir, stand corrected.
As I was saying, this should not be a thing that can happen.
Gooch is emp on DC Vivec NA, you sir stand corrected.
Regardless they don't get there by just snipe which is a single target ability.
Try learning to counter rather than whining about snipe on the forum.Edited by TequilaFire on January 9, 2019 12:23AM1 -
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✭dwemer_paleologist wrote: »stop trying to destroy snipe
stop trying to destroy our ranged playstyle every single day making request threads to destroy archer playstyle.
nothing wrong with what we have, its been here since 5+ years.
this is really childish and selfish.
Stam ranged play style has pretty much gone to hell already.Tome of Alteration Magic I - Reality is an Ancient Dwemer Construct: Everything You Need to Know About FPS
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Cavedog✭✭✭✭✭
✭TequilaFire wrote: »TequilaFire wrote: »Snipe is OP right now....and so is the knock back from a bow skill.
How about AP from stealth is cut in half? .....that sounds good to me. That way idiots can't stealth snipe their way to emp...because that most assuredly should not be a thing.
No one gets to emp just using snipe. lmao
Really? Check the leader boards in Vivec right now for AD. The name says it all.
You, sir, stand corrected.
As I was saying, this should not be a thing that can happen.
Gooch is emp on DC Vivec NA, you sir stand corrected.
Regardless they don't get there by just snipe which is a single target ability.
Try learning to counter rather than whining about snipe on the forum.
No.
The top man on the leaderboards for Vivec AD is named El Bowtard. That literally is his toon name, and that literally is the one and only thing he does.
As I was saying, this should not be a thing that can happen.
This game was designed for PC. Nothing else will ever come close.Edited by Cavedog on January 9, 2019 3:53AM0 -
HansaBergen✭✭✭If u die to a 40m snipe, you need to turn of the Justin Bieber songs in you're headset and start blocking when you hear the snipe coming. It's so easy if you have half a brain.. But understand it's hard when you run in a 24 man zerg and get picked out as the weakest link.0
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Aurielle✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭HansaBergen wrote: »If u die to a 40m snipe, you need to turn of the Justin Bieber songs in you're headset and start blocking when you hear the snipe coming. It's so easy if you have half a brain.. But understand it's hard when you run in a 24 man zerg and get picked out as the weakest link.
Oh. My. God. @HansaBergen
https://youtu.be/rl-n9WwNlko
https://youtu.be/VHK04C3Ro6Q
Above video is from 2015, and there are many more out there if you cba to do a bit of research instead of flaming people. When the Snipe health desync bugs you out, YOU CANNOT REACT TO IT. You don’t “hear snipe coming,” your health bar just goes from 100% to 0. All your skills get greyed out. You can dodge roll or spam wings all you like; once you receive a visual/auditory cue that you’ve been hit/are being hit with Snipe (which is a delayed cue, thanks to the bug), you’re already dead. The only way to prevent it is to PROACTIVELY defend against Snipe. That’s easy if you can spam wings on a DK, but what magicka character is going to be able to dodge roll every two seconds?4 -
TequilaFire✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭TequilaFire wrote: »TequilaFire wrote: »Snipe is OP right now....and so is the knock back from a bow skill.
How about AP from stealth is cut in half? .....that sounds good to me. That way idiots can't stealth snipe their way to emp...because that most assuredly should not be a thing.
No one gets to emp just using snipe. lmao
Really? Check the leader boards in Vivec right now for AD. The name says it all.
You, sir, stand corrected.
As I was saying, this should not be a thing that can happen.
Gooch is emp on DC Vivec NA, you sir stand corrected.
Regardless they don't get there by just snipe which is a single target ability.
Try learning to counter rather than whining about snipe on the forum.
No.
The top man on the leaderboards for Vivec AD is named El Bowtard. That literally is his toon name, and that literally is the one and only thing he does.
As I was saying, this should not be a thing that can happen.
This game was designed for PC. Nothing else will ever come close.
There is more than one Vivec you know and a good bow build uses more than just snipe in their rotation but that info doesn't fit your agenda.
Console exists too bad and way more fun to PvP on, you are entitled to your opinion even if it is wrong.
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ YASHansaBergen wrote: »If u die to a 40m snipe, you need to turn of the Justin Bieber songs in you're headset and start blocking when you hear the snipe coming. It's so easy if you have half a brain.. But understand it's hard when you run in a 24 man zerg and get picked out as the weakest link.
Oh. My. God. @HansaBergenhttps://youtu.be/rl-n9WwNlkohttps://youtu.be/VHK04C3Ro6Q
Above video is from 2015, and there are many more out there if you cba to do a bit of research instead of flaming people. When the Snipe health desync bugs you out, YOU CANNOT REACT TO IT. You don’t “hear snipe coming,” your health bar just goes from 100% to 0. All your skills get greyed out. You can dodge roll or spam wings all you like; once you receive a visual/auditory cue that you’ve been hit/are being hit with Snipe (which is a delayed cue, thanks to the bug), you’re already dead. The only way to prevent it is to PROACTIVELY defend against Snipe. That’s easy if you can spam wings on a DK, but what magicka character is going to be able to dodge roll every two seconds?
The desync is so broken and the audio is too. I will literally walk and next thing I know, all bars are frozen and can't use a skill and then in one second, I am dead and then all the audio and effects show up at one time. It is a true "WTF" moment. Most snipes I can hear and dodge or cloak as a mage blade. When I see these rats that crawled up from the sewers snipping in the back of a group, I focus them.Your friendly neighborhood crazy cat lady of ESO
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✭✭✭✭✭dwemer_paleologist wrote: »stop trying to destroy snipe
stop trying to destroy our ranged playstyle every single day making request threads to destroy archer playstyle.
nothing wrong with what we have, its been here since 5+ years.
this is really childish and selfish.
YES DESTROY IT!!!!!
Why are bowtards so QQ
Since your sig says you're a Magsorc, i bet you QQ over your Ward.CP2,100 Master Explorer - AvA Two Star Warlord - Console Peasant - Khajiiti Aficionado - The Clan
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✭I will start by saying I don't want snipe nerfed, but I do think it needs a fix with the health dysnc bug and an easier way to know it's coming at you because when your being xv1d it's impossible to predict a stealth sniper when you can't see or hear them.
One major thing people keep forgetting by saying snipe is fine because your squishy is the fact that most of the time the sniper isn't alone. It's not a 1v1 spec, it is terrible for that. It's for ganking and xv1ing people and it really shines in these types of combat.
The amount of times I have been in an 1vx and holding my ground, looking like I can win then out of nowhere I get a 10k+ hit that just took me to half hp, stunned me and applied major defile all at the same time. It's so powerful when your outnumered and then the risk factor of being squishy is gone because the sniper has many allies around and of course has stealth.
And snipe is also stronger this patch since speed was gutted, making it so you can't really use los and have a harder time to catch the sniper, especially with his allies snaring you non stop.
I would be fine with the skill if it couldn't hit me 3 times before I even realised and if it was easier to counter it in 1vx before the first hit basically loses you the fight. I will always find snipe annoying, but I understand it's a playstyle others enjoy.Edited by Crixus8000 on January 9, 2019 3:19PM0 -
zyk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I'm 100% okay with a powerful snipe for archers. I never cry about getting Xv1'd by archers behind a zerg because that's where archers are supposed to be. I think it's idiotic that people complain about getting hit by powerful ranged attacks in an AvA game that features archers.
Fighting outnumbered means coming up with a tactic to deal with that.
HOWEVER, it is essential that a powerful ability like snipe *works properly*. ZOS needs to fix its bugs. The cue needs to play every single time. The desync bug must be permanently resolved.
If ZOS is unwilling or unable to fix it, then it should be changed because it's not really fair to be sniped from stealth with no cue.Edited by zyk on January 9, 2019 3:40PM1
