Maybe there aren't actual Dragons but maybe they'll say war of the dragon because it will be a war against Alkosh worshippers?

Tiber Septim was a dragon born but that was towards the end of the 2nd era, being of the 3rd

Nothing wrong with using dragons. Look a the imperial flag used in Skyrim. That design is inspired by the red dragon mercenary we encountered in Redguard about 300 years after ESO. Of course one or two should be more than enough, hordes would be silly.

There are 7 Elder scrolls games on PC, only Skyrim implies that dragons are a myth, and even there we have the former imperial secret service who became dragon hunters long before the first dragon rose in the game.

Toanis wrote: »

Nothing wrong with using dragons. Look a the imperial flag used in Skyrim. That design is inspired by the red dragon mercenary we encountered in Redguard about 300 years after ESO. Of course one or two should be more than enough, hordes would be silly.

There are 7 Elder scrolls games on PC, only Skyrim implies that dragons are a myth, and even there we have the former imperial secret service who became dragon hunters long before the first dragon rose in the game.

Only Skyrim? Found a lot of dragons running about in single player Morrowind, did you? I didn't. Didn't see any in Tribunal, Bloodmoon, or Oblivion, either. No dragons in the list of monsters for Arena. There were *dragonlings* in Daggerfall, but they only resembled dragons [level 16 monster]. There were no dragons in Battlespire. The Elder Scrolls Adventures: Redguard did have one dragon, however Redguard was a spin-off, a third-person action-adventure game with no skills and a predefined player character, not part of the main Elder Scrolls games.

The imperial secret service might be backwards a bit. Dragon hunters long before "secret service"

The Dragonguard were hunting dragons in Akavir for years; when they started to run out of dragons in Akavir, they invaded Tamriel to hunt dragons there; this was in the first Era. They passed through quite a bit of territory until Reman met them at Pale Pass. Once they heard Reman speak, the Dragonguard knelt and proclaimed him Dragonborn, and joined his forces. They contributed to Reman's founding of the Second Era, while managing to continue hunting dragons for the next 200 years or so. However since there were still dragon hunters and not the imperial secret service at this point, they didn't prevent Reman III's assassination by the Morag Tong. The Dragonguard disbanded, some became mercenaries, some started the Fighter's Guild, some kept up the secret skills and teachings that eventually led to the dragonknights. It wasn't until Tiber Septim that the Dragonguard returned from seclusion and became the Blades.

JKorr wrote: »

Toanis wrote: »

Nothing wrong with using dragons. Look a the imperial flag used in Skyrim. That design is inspired by the red dragon mercenary we encountered in Redguard about 300 years after ESO. Of course one or two should be more than enough, hordes would be silly.

There are 7 Elder scrolls games on PC, only Skyrim implies that dragons are a myth, and even there we have the former imperial secret service who became dragon hunters long before the first dragon rose in the game.

Only Skyrim? Found a lot of dragons running about in single player Morrowind, did you? I didn't. Didn't see any in Tribunal, Bloodmoon, or Oblivion, either. No dragons in the list of monsters for Arena. There were *dragonlings* in Daggerfall, but they only resembled dragons [level 16 monster]. There were no dragons in Battlespire. The Elder Scrolls Adventures: Redguard did have one dragon, however Redguard was a spin-off, a third-person action-adventure game with no skills and a predefined player character, not part of the main Elder Scrolls games.

The imperial secret service might be backwards a bit. Dragon hunters long before "secret service"

The Dragonguard were hunting dragons in Akavir for years; when they started to run out of dragons in Akavir, they invaded Tamriel to hunt dragons there; this was in the first Era. They passed through quite a bit of territory until Reman met them at Pale Pass. Once they heard Reman speak, the Dragonguard knelt and proclaimed him Dragonborn, and joined his forces. They contributed to Reman's founding of the Second Era, while managing to continue hunting dragons for the next 200 years or so. However since there were still dragon hunters and not the imperial secret service at this point, they didn't prevent Reman III's assassination by the Morag Tong. The Dragonguard disbanded, some became mercenaries, some started the Fighter's Guild, some kept up the secret skills and teachings that eventually led to the dragonknights. It wasn't until Tiber Septim that the Dragonguard returned from seclusion and became the Blades.

@JKorr

No that poster is correct, Skyrim is the only game which implies that dragons are mere myth, which makes some amount of sense since it takes place hundreds of years after every other game in the series, long after dragons had been nearly genocided and the rest had gone into hiding. Dragons may not appear as NPC in most of those other titles, but their existence is considered settled and well-known fact.

starlizard70ub17_ESO wrote: »

There are a few, very few dragons who according to lore, are active at this time. One of them, Paarthurnax is hanging out with the Greybeards. A couple of others, Durnehvir and Vulthuryol are in less accessible locations, but it's still possible to meet them after a great deal of trials and questing. I'd think that any dragon we'd meet would either be a main quest giver or the end quest boss. I really doubt we'll see swarms of dragons flying across the skies.

I dont understand why people think each and every dragon must be accounted for. Exactly how many dragons are there after all? Now, while I got my fill of dragons in Skyrim, I dont consider even a hoard of the things to be lorebreaking at ANY point in time some were known to be alive. From a biological standpoint...you are looking at a population of 20,000 of a given creature to have a viable gene pool that wont end up dying of genetic defects from inbreeding...so really, even if there were only 200 dragons...can you account for more than a couple dozen in "the lore"?

There were some dragons supposedly hiding in the alikr desert.

Shezzarrine wrote: »

Recremen wrote: »

@JKorr

No that poster is correct, Skyrim is the only game which implies that dragons are mere myth, which makes some amount of sense since it takes place hundreds of years after every other game in the series, long after dragons had been nearly genocided and the rest had gone into hiding. Dragons may not appear as NPC in most of those other titles, but their existence is considered settled and well-known fact.

Care to provide sources? Not saying you're wrong but I see no reason why someone would mention dragons being a myth in the other games because they have little to nothing to do with dragons. The only reason its said in skyrim is because Dragons are central to the plot. If skyrim were just about the civil war, dragons being considered myth wouldnt have come up there either. They may be in books and things but there are also dragons in books and stories irl.

I would love to see proof that the common people knew that dragons were not a myth, not just important and knowledgeable characters.

I love providing sources.

Dragons are featured in Morrowind in generic dialogue options under the section "Humanoid Races", alongside Sload, as beings who cannot mate with the humanoid races.

Dragonscale armor is as common as Ebony and Glass armor in the Morrowind base game (see the item counts in the Construction Set). The Dragonbone Armor is a world-famous artifact in Morrowind and is mentioned in the book Famed Artifact of Tamriel, alongside other artifacts with draconic origin or importance.

In the Pocket Guide 1st Edition dragons are casually mentioned as common features of life around the Imperial City (note that this was written before the Dragon Break that occurred between Morrowind and Oblivion, so at least for Oblivion I can't speak to their importance).

And of course as others have mentioned there's actual public-facing dragon NPC in both Daggerfall and Redguard, both of which are very canon and very cool.

Plenty of "friendly" dragons hiding around Tamriel who escaped the Dragon genocide.

Nafalilaagus of Hammerfell, for example. There could very well be one hanging out in Elsweyr.

Recremen wrote: »

Shezzarrine wrote: »

Recremen wrote: »

@JKorr

No that poster is correct, Skyrim is the only game which implies that dragons are mere myth, which makes some amount of sense since it takes place hundreds of years after every other game in the series, long after dragons had been nearly genocided and the rest had gone into hiding. Dragons may not appear as NPC in most of those other titles, but their existence is considered settled and well-known fact.

Care to provide sources? Not saying you're wrong but I see no reason why someone would mention dragons being a myth in the other games because they have little to nothing to do with dragons. The only reason its said in skyrim is because Dragons are central to the plot. If skyrim were just about the civil war, dragons being considered myth wouldnt have come up there either. They may be in books and things but there are also dragons in books and stories irl.

I would love to see proof that the common people knew that dragons were not a myth, not just important and knowledgeable characters.

I love providing sources.

Dragons are featured in Morrowind in generic dialogue options under the section "Humanoid Races", alongside Sload, as beings who cannot mate with the humanoid races.

Dragonscale armor is as common as Ebony and Glass armor in the Morrowind base game (see the item counts in the Construction Set). The Dragonbone Armor is a world-famous artifact in Morrowind and is mentioned in the book Famed Artifact of Tamriel, alongside other artifacts with draconic origin or importance.

In the Pocket Guide 1st Edition dragons are casually mentioned as common features of life around the Imperial City (note that this was written before the Dragon Break that occurred between Morrowind and Oblivion, so at least for Oblivion I can't speak to their importance).

And of course as others have mentioned there's actual public-facing dragon NPC in both Daggerfall and Redguard, both of which are very canon and very cool.

Very interesting, thank you for that.

Never played Reguard but I knew about ray dragon, always assumed he was sort of hidden from the public eye. Did not really know about the daggerfall dragon.