AlienatedGoat wrote: »

I take exception to the OP's stance that Warden is "failed" and "boring".

I agree with you specifically concerning Wardens, as I've got two and they feel very different than the other classes. Still, just focusing on that one detail rather than the overall theme of the OP's post is missing the forest for the trees. They need to make sure that any new classes are truly unique or they are going to dilute the game. Adding another pet-themed spellcaster class to the game brings nothing new.

I can sympathize with the developers, since the coding of the data that turns an idea into a reality can be a herculean task -especially when integrating it into an existing platform. Thinking outside of the box can make this potentially amazing class into a unique and hopefully enjoyable playing experience. Without creating a programming nightmare, what are some suggestions for the developers? I shudder to think of some of the horrifying and gruesome quests and activities that such a vile and taboo class would undertake (no pun intended)!

Considering the disease-ridden corpses necromancers would be constantly in-contact with, I imagine they would develop some methods of natural and magical resistance to disease for example. This could tie into alchemy, disease resistance, as well as biological warfare for large-scale AOE.

As necromancy is outlawed in some locations in Tamriel, necromancers must be stealthy or clever when it comes to dealing with the night watchmen. This could tie into sneak and legerdemain.

Also, considering the motivation to risk the dangers of dealing with the dark forces surrounding the subject, necromancers are probably fortunate when it comes to grave-robbing (again legerdemain), and surviving the sometimes "uncooperative" remnants of the dead.

I enjoy my Wardens, both Mag and Stam, and they do quite well so I don't see how they are "fail". But ok.

Adding new classes has to stop at a certain point because you are right in that they will eventually just end up stealing abilities from other classes. There is only so much you can do that is truly unique. Adding new content, and more importantly unique or unusual content, is imperative for the longevity of a game and retention of players. A simple thing that can help is the addition of new races/customization for our characters.

For this game one thing I'd love love love to see added is gliding. Yeah NOT flying as I know so many are against that because it lets you just skip over so much, but gliding. Let it be a skill line, and that's all it does, we slowly glide downward and can guide our direction. No lift, not flying. It would be plain fun to get as high as possible and jump off and see how far you can get. It would be useful to get to that impossible spot just to do it. And content could be designed around it, you have to get to "here" and the only way is to glide to it and to jump from the right spot or yeah you won't make it LOL.

Another thing I'd like added is underwater content. I honestly do not understand at all why some are against that. Underwater is fun and would add a lot of surface area of the game for new zones and content. Fighting and dealing in three dimensions is more challenging and interesting and it's one of the few things I miss from other games I play.

I think the safest thing they can do at the point is find all the overlapping skills between classes and move them into the base game trees leaving behind 2 very unique class trees, rather than the 3 that exist. Might be strange to argue for less trees to make it more unique, but if the trees were reduced to 2 and the more unique and most popular skills were kept, you'd find it would be a battle of quality over quantity.

For instance if there was a tree in Necro that overlapped with Siphon on Nightblade I'd much prefer the Necro just had 2 skill trees and the more popular skills in Siphon was introduced into the main game under Soul Magic or something leaving Necro and NB with only 2 class trees, containing the skills most unique to that class.

Same thing with Sorc, some skills in Dark Magic (Runes, Dark Bargain etc) and Bound Aegis (Daedric summoning) are also satisfied under the Mages Guild, cull them out and merge them with Mages guild and leave behind 2 very unique Sorc tree.

I always thought it would be cool if the Mages guild Meteor had a morph that instead of a Meteor that does DOT after impact, it could be an Atronach. Lightning staff - Lightning Atro (AOE). Flame Staff - Flame Atro (Single target). Ice Staff (High health, slows enemies and pulls agro of adds [not bosses]). Resto staff - Spriggan (Heals). Any stam weapon - Air Atro (Bleeds).

Do the same with all the classes, and you'll have 2 very unique skill trees without overlap. If the theme is to have a new class every 2nd year, the class system will become a mess with over lap and balance issues everywhere. Unless the skill tree gets refined down to something more unique, the classes are not going to be anything more than animation differences.

Hey I enjoy my Magden from a healing standpoint and feel as unique as I can in the system we have. I'm so close to my druid (minus being able to use werewold with mag) that I'm pretty happy. Sure the combat is clunky as hell, I'm not thrilled with ice on a nature class, and double barring the bear sucks but at least I have my nature themed class. I waited a long time for it to come around. Honestly the warden is what made me stay playing ESO because I had grown so bored of my templar because it didn't fight my theme. Even though summoning or other skills on a necro might not be bringing something unique to you, the folks who have always wanted to play a necro will be rejuvenated in their enjoyment of ESO which is always a good thing.