AlboMalefica wrote: »I mean thinking about it, having them in the crown store at least gives the option to those who have limited gaming times so that’s great for them. But all I see is that Zos wants to be considerate to its community, through the crown store
MLGProPlayer wrote: »I like it. It gives you a chance to get the mount if you're busy or travelling during an event.
I'll be away for a business trip plus some travelling for 3 weeks this summer. If that happens to be the quarter when my Indrik is available, I'll probably have to buy some event tickets.
That's generally covered by the fact that you don't need all the tickets from all the events to get the feathers. So just as those who don't want to do a PvP or dungeon event, for example, can still get the necessary tickets from the other events, so someone who misses the odd event by being away can also do so. Now, if someone is away so much that they can't participate in most of the events then there's a legitimate question as to why they would expect to be able to receive the rewards for those events, however unfortunate that may be given the circumstances.
MLGProPlayer wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »I like it. It gives you a chance to get the mount if you're busy or travelling during an event.
I'll be away for a business trip plus some travelling for 3 weeks this summer. If that happens to be the quarter when my Indrik is available, I'll probably have to buy some event tickets.
That's generally covered by the fact that you don't need all the tickets from all the events to get the feathers. So just as those who don't want to do a PvP or dungeon event, for example, can still get the necessary tickets from the other events, so someone who misses the odd event by being away can also do so. Now, if someone is away so much that they can't participate in most of the events then there's a legitimate question as to why they would expect to be able to receive the rewards for those events, however unfortunate that may be given the circumstances.
People shouldn't be punished for having a life beyond this game. Someone can be in the military or go on an aid mission that removes them from a computer/game console for months at a time. These people shouldn't be excluded from being able to get cool mounts.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with making an event more accessible.
MLGProPlayer wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »I like it. It gives you a chance to get the mount if you're busy or travelling during an event.
I'll be away for a business trip plus some travelling for 3 weeks this summer. If that happens to be the quarter when my Indrik is available, I'll probably have to buy some event tickets.
That's generally covered by the fact that you don't need all the tickets from all the events to get the feathers. So just as those who don't want to do a PvP or dungeon event, for example, can still get the necessary tickets from the other events, so someone who misses the odd event by being away can also do so. Now, if someone is away so much that they can't participate in most of the events then there's a legitimate question as to why they would expect to be able to receive the rewards for those events, however unfortunate that may be given the circumstances.
People shouldn't be punished for having a life beyond this game. Someone can be in the military or go on an aid mission that removes them from a computer/game console for months at a time. These people shouldn't be excluded from being able to get cool mounts.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with making an event more accessible.
MLGProPlayer wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »I like it. It gives you a chance to get the mount if you're busy or travelling during an event.
I'll be away for a business trip plus some travelling for 3 weeks this summer. If that happens to be the quarter when my Indrik is available, I'll probably have to buy some event tickets.
That's generally covered by the fact that you don't need all the tickets from all the events to get the feathers. So just as those who don't want to do a PvP or dungeon event, for example, can still get the necessary tickets from the other events, so someone who misses the odd event by being away can also do so. Now, if someone is away so much that they can't participate in most of the events then there's a legitimate question as to why they would expect to be able to receive the rewards for those events, however unfortunate that may be given the circumstances.
People shouldn't be punished for having a life beyond this game. Someone can be in the military or go on an aid mission that removes them from a computer/game console for months at a time. These people shouldn't be excluded from being able to get cool mounts.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with making an event more accessible.
MLGProPlayer wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »I like it. It gives you a chance to get the mount if you're busy or travelling during an event.
I'll be away for a business trip plus some travelling for 3 weeks this summer. If that happens to be the quarter when my Indrik is available, I'll probably have to buy some event tickets.
That's generally covered by the fact that you don't need all the tickets from all the events to get the feathers. So just as those who don't want to do a PvP or dungeon event, for example, can still get the necessary tickets from the other events, so someone who misses the odd event by being away can also do so. Now, if someone is away so much that they can't participate in most of the events then there's a legitimate question as to why they would expect to be able to receive the rewards for those events, however unfortunate that may be given the circumstances.
People shouldn't be punished for having a life beyond this game. Someone can be in the military or go on an aid mission that removes them from a computer/game console for months at a time. These people shouldn't be excluded from being able to get cool mounts.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with making an event more accessible.
I mean...I was excluded from getting the 100k log-in reward in September because I had to evacuate for 2 weeks due to Hurricane Florence.
There's a difference between other catch-up mechanics (more tickets offered than needed, upping the ticket cap so people can earn a little more if they happen to be away, leaving all berries purchasable in every quarter, etc) and just straight-up crown store purchase.
DarthRupert wrote: »I agree completely! When I checked out the article I was really excited to see that they were doubling down on the event system they created. Then someone pointed out that event tickets were being added to the crown store. That small sentence made what should have been an awesome announcement and celebration of what we've created as the community and developer and shot it right in the foot for me. I also happen to be their target consumer. I have more crowns than anyone has the right to have and not enough time. I just barely managed to get the indrik and I have no idea if i'll be able to get the berries. But the accomplishment of spending the time and participating in the event was and will be all the more worth it. That is what ESO needs, it's why I was so excited about something as simple as the event system.
ZOS Limited/Rare ingame items are a main way to keep players engaged and coming back. Psychologically those items are links to memories of challenge and accomplishment; meeting new people and playing with friends. And guess what that means players are reminded of how much fun they have playing your game. Those items are what brings players back for the new events, and help out new players. I don't normally speak up here about anything, but this decision has quite honestly baffled me. Please do not add the tickets to the crown store.
MLGProPlayer wrote: »DarthRupert wrote: »I agree completely! When I checked out the article I was really excited to see that they were doubling down on the event system they created. Then someone pointed out that event tickets were being added to the crown store. That small sentence made what should have been an awesome announcement and celebration of what we've created as the community and developer and shot it right in the foot for me. I also happen to be their target consumer. I have more crowns than anyone has the right to have and not enough time. I just barely managed to get the indrik and I have no idea if i'll be able to get the berries. But the accomplishment of spending the time and participating in the event was and will be all the more worth it. That is what ESO needs, it's why I was so excited about something as simple as the event system.
ZOS Limited/Rare ingame items are a main way to keep players engaged and coming back. Psychologically those items are links to memories of challenge and accomplishment; meeting new people and playing with friends. And guess what that means players are reminded of how much fun they have playing your game. Those items are what brings players back for the new events, and help out new players. I don't normally speak up here about anything, but this decision has quite honestly baffled me. Please do not add the tickets to the crown store.
There was nothing challenging about these events. No memories were created. They were essentially just login rewards. Login. Do mind-numbibgly easy daily in 2 minutes. Rinse and repeat for the rest of the event.
Why does everyone keep saying that we'll only be able to get the Dawn Berries during Q1? Did y'all just quit reading after the Crown Store announcement?
"Like the Indrik Feathers during the 2018 Q4 events, upon the start of each new event during Q1, the Impresario will stock new Indrik Berries and any previous Q1 Indrik Berries for the Dawnwood Indrik. She will also continue to stock all four Indrik Feathers required to summon a new Nascent Indrik throughout 2019."
She's not going to quit stocking the berries OR the feathers...
source Please note that the Indrik Berries you can collect each quarter will ONLY be available during that quarter. Previous Indrik Berries will not return once the next quarter has begun, meaning this is your only chance to acquire this specific evolution.
There's been a number of times now that I've thought to myself, "damn, they can't possibly lower the bar any further" and sure enough, here we are.
What's next? Titles?
Callous2208 wrote: »There's been a number of times now that I've thought to myself, "damn, they can't possibly lower the bar any further" and sure enough, here we are.
What's next? Titles?
With their target audience shifting so drastically to extreme casual cash shop warriors, it seems only likely this is the next step. I've near given up after being shouted down in threads today by people telling me that there's nothing wrong with whales and everything being in the cash shop, or that the regular content is too hard already and there's no need for ZoS to fix persistent issues or add new challenges. These voices are the majority now evidently. I'll just shut up and keep roleplaying until something else comes along. I can ignore these people there.
Callous2208 wrote: »There's been a number of times now that I've thought to myself, "damn, they can't possibly lower the bar any further" and sure enough, here we are.
What's next? Titles?
With their target audience shifting so drastically to extreme casual cash shop warriors, it seems only likely this is the next step. I've near given up after being shouted down in threads today by people telling me that there's nothing wrong with whales and everything being in the cash shop, or that the regular content is too hard already and there's no need for ZoS to fix persistent issues or add new challenges. These voices are the majority now evidently. I'll just shut up and keep roleplaying until something else comes along. I can ignore these people there.
As someone who works full-time and also goes to college, I completely agree. I missed out on enough tickets to get the Indrik, and while that was disappointing it was still cool to know that they were tied to events, and it was cool seeing the players, new and old, with the Indrik knowing they participated so much time into getting it. They should never become a crown store item, this only makes people take events less seriously. And no, I will not purchase event tickets on the crown store. I was not able to get enough tickets so I don’t feel I deserve to have the same mount as people who dedicated so much time into getting it. Truly disappointing.
MLGProPlayer wrote: »As someone who works full-time and also goes to college, I completely agree. I missed out on enough tickets to get the Indrik, and while that was disappointing it was still cool to know that they were tied to events, and it was cool seeing the players, new and old, with the Indrik knowing they participated so much time into getting it. They should never become a crown store item, this only makes people take events less seriously. And no, I will not purchase event tickets on the crown store. I was not able to get enough tickets so I don’t feel I deserve to have the same mount as people who dedicated so much time into getting it. Truly disappointing.
Having more free time =/= dedicating more time
A full-time worker can proportionally dedicate the same amount of time as someone who is unemployed. However, the unemployed player can dedicate more total time. The latter does not make you better at the game, or special in any way. It just means you have more time to play.
If we're going to reward tickets for in-game activities, it should be for completing gameplay challenges. For example, completing veteran trials to obtain berries. If that were the case, then I would be quite angry if the berries were being sold in the crown store because they undermine a legitimate skill-based achievement. But right now, event tickets are just a daily login reward. They are not tied to any legitimate gameplay achievement. You simply need free time.
Sheezabeast wrote: »Link to where this is stated please?
During certain in-game events (indicated below), collect Event Tickets by participating in that event’s specific activities.
- Note that we are also planning to add Event Tickets to the Crown Store late Q1
So is the second one an actual source? Bc if it is that sucksWhy does everyone keep saying that we'll only be able to get the Dawn Berries during Q1? Did y'all just quit reading after the Crown Store announcement?
"Like the Indrik Feathers during the 2018 Q4 events, upon the start of each new event during Q1, the Impresario will stock new Indrik Berries and any previous Q1 Indrik Berries for the Dawnwood Indrik. She will also continue to stock all four Indrik Feathers required to summon a new Nascent Indrik throughout 2019."
She's not going to quit stocking the berries OR the feathers...
Not to burst your bubble or anything but...source Please note that the Indrik Berries you can collect each quarter will ONLY be available during that quarter. Previous Indrik Berries will not return once the next quarter has begun, meaning this is your only chance to acquire this specific evolution.
MLGProPlayer wrote: »As someone who works full-time and also goes to college, I completely agree. I missed out on enough tickets to get the Indrik, and while that was disappointing it was still cool to know that they were tied to events, and it was cool seeing the players, new and old, with the Indrik knowing they participated so much time into getting it. They should never become a crown store item, this only makes people take events less seriously. And no, I will not purchase event tickets on the crown store. I was not able to get enough tickets so I don’t feel I deserve to have the same mount as people who dedicated so much time into getting it. Truly disappointing.
Having more free time =/= dedicating more time
A full-time worker can proportionally dedicate the same amount of time as someone who is unemployed. However, the unemployed player can dedicate more total time. The latter does not make you better at the game, or special in any way. It just means you have more time to play.
If we're going to reward tickets for in-game activities, it should be for completing gameplay challenges. For example, completing veteran trials to obtain berries. If that were the case, then I would be quite angry if the berries were being sold in the crown store because they undermine a legitimate skill-based achievement. But right now, event tickets are just a daily login reward. They are not tied to any legitimate gameplay achievement. You simply need free time.
Emphasis mine.
Base on this, you want to put individual, non-tradeable rewards from a community event/festival behind endgame group activities, in addition* to what is already uniquely available through those activities.
Let's just ascertain as to whether I am reading your post correctly... is that truly your position?
[* Such as Motifs, Skins, Collectibles and Furnishing Recipes]
People log in to punch their cards with vet dungeons as well. Aren't those the same thing?MLGProPlayer wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »As someone who works full-time and also goes to college, I completely agree. I missed out on enough tickets to get the Indrik, and while that was disappointing it was still cool to know that they were tied to events, and it was cool seeing the players, new and old, with the Indrik knowing they participated so much time into getting it. They should never become a crown store item, this only makes people take events less seriously. And no, I will not purchase event tickets on the crown store. I was not able to get enough tickets so I don’t feel I deserve to have the same mount as people who dedicated so much time into getting it. Truly disappointing.
Having more free time =/= dedicating more time
A full-time worker can proportionally dedicate the same amount of time as someone who is unemployed. However, the unemployed player can dedicate more total time. The latter does not make you better at the game, or special in any way. It just means you have more time to play.
If we're going to reward tickets for in-game activities, it should be for completing gameplay challenges. For example, completing veteran trials to obtain berries. If that were the case, then I would be quite angry if the berries were being sold in the crown store because they undermine a legitimate skill-based achievement. But right now, event tickets are just a daily login reward. They are not tied to any legitimate gameplay achievement. You simply need free time.
Emphasis mine.
Base on this, you want to put individual, non-tradeable rewards from a community event/festival behind endgame group activities, in addition* to what is already uniquely available through those activities.
Let's just ascertain as to whether I am reading your post correctly... is that truly your position?
[* Such as Motifs, Skins, Collectibles and Furnishing Recipes]
You missed the point completely.
I am saying that event tickets in the crown store would be a travesty only if event tickets were an exclusive drop from challenging in-game activities and not just glorified daily login rewards.
MLGProPlayer wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »As someone who works full-time and also goes to college, I completely agree. I missed out on enough tickets to get the Indrik, and while that was disappointing it was still cool to know that they were tied to events, and it was cool seeing the players, new and old, with the Indrik knowing they participated so much time into getting it. They should never become a crown store item, this only makes people take events less seriously. And no, I will not purchase event tickets on the crown store. I was not able to get enough tickets so I don’t feel I deserve to have the same mount as people who dedicated so much time into getting it. Truly disappointing.
Having more free time =/= dedicating more time
A full-time worker can proportionally dedicate the same amount of time as someone who is unemployed. However, the unemployed player can dedicate more total time. The latter does not make you better at the game, or special in any way. It just means you have more time to play.
If we're going to reward tickets for in-game activities, it should be for completing gameplay challenges. For example, completing veteran trials to obtain berries. If that were the case, then I would be quite angry if the berries were being sold in the crown store because they undermine a legitimate skill-based achievement. But right now, event tickets are just a daily login reward. They are not tied to any legitimate gameplay achievement. You simply need free time.
Emphasis mine.
Base on this, you want to put individual, non-tradeable rewards from a community event/festival behind endgame group activities, in addition* to what is already uniquely available through those activities.
Let's just ascertain as to whether I am reading your post correctly... is that truly your position?
[* Such as Motifs, Skins, Collectibles and Furnishing Recipes]
You missed the point completely.
I am saying that event tickets in the crown store would be a travesty only if event tickets were an exclusive drop from challenging in-game activities and not just glorified daily login rewards.