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Stam DK - NMG instead of Spriggans for vMA?

Mariusghost84
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I am trying to improve my vMA build and im wondering if i should replace spriggans with NMG? Im running Hundings as the second set. Im thinking i can free up a spot by not having to use Noxious Breath, and gain 2k penetration over spriggans. As im writing this right now i now come to think that i actually lose penetration, as the major fracture from Noxious breath comes on top of the 3,5k from sprigans.... so i guess this is far from optimal right?

...Unless i go spriggans and NMG instead of hundings, but then im missing out on a lot of wep power? I need the best setup for vAM i can get outside of trials ( which i will farm but it takes time )

I appriciate some advice, playas!

  • Protossyder
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    You will probably miss the extra pen from spriggans + noxious breath in single target boss fights.

    Unlike penetration does the weapon power also buff your healing, keep that in mind.
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  • Oreyn_Bearclaw
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    I havent played VMA on a DK in quite a while, but can you still noxious breath the portals before enemies spawn to apply the debuff? If so, I would def keep it on your bar. If you arent running Noxious, NMG is better than spriggans. And as I am sure you know, VO is far and away the best VMA set for stam. I would also prob run briarheart over hundings.
    Edited by Oreyn_Bearclaw on January 4, 2019 6:45PM
  • El_Borracho
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    If you want penetration (cue Beavis and Butthead) I prefer TFS over Spriggans for vMA. More crit and more penetration if you can maintain the stack. Can run either Hundlings or VO body pieces with it, depending on your sustain.

    I prefer to run Hundlings + VO weapons/jewelry and Noxious Breath. Noxious Breath is a nice boost and as @Protossyder said, you get poison damage, and it gives you the major fracture of NMG. But VO is the key. You get the weapon crit NMG gives, you gain Minor Slayer, you keep the weapon damage from NMG and gain a sustain and gain a stamina cost reduction on the 5th piece (on both bars if you don't have the vMA bow and are running a VO bow on the back). You could run TFS with VO if you want the most penetration possible, but Hundlings is better for the weapon damage/crit output
    Edited by El_Borracho on January 4, 2019 6:52PM
  • ccfeeling
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    I feel the difference is not that big, just few percents, Ive tried different setup for fun.

    Relequen + TFS
    Relequen + NMG
    Relequen + AY
    Relequen + Blooddrinker
    Relequen + VO

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    Personally I like lover with NMG more than TFS, because mobs die too fast :)
  • vesselwiththepestle
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    I guess TFS, VO and Relequen aren't an option, when OP says "outside of trials" :).

    I would keep Noxious Breath on the bar. Hunding's + Spriggan's is solid. IMO there won't be a huge difference to Briarheart, Veiled Heritance etc. If you have Spriggan's and Hunding's golded out I wouldn't bother for another set except those from trials. Except you are having sustain troubles even with Dubious Camoran Throne. In that case I would give Bone Pirate's Tatters a try. You can use it for PVP, too, so it wouldn't be wasted if it doesn't work for you in vma.
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  • Masel
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    Noxious is a pretty weak skill and I don't find room foe it on the bar on stamina dks at all...

    Relequen in vMA? That set is useless almost all fights since it doesn't provide burst at all... VO is a must have, you're simply gimping yourself by not using it.

    Keep in mind that many mobs and bosses in vMA only have 9.1k resistance. Some have 12.2k, rest 18.2k.
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