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Seriously? We have to wait up to a year to get the Indrik evolution we want?
mjharper
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I want the snowy Indrik. That's it. And that will presumably only be available in Q4, because winter theme. Since I can only evolve one Indrik at a time, and I can only carry 12 event tokens at a time, and there will be no berries that I want to buy for (probably) another 9 months, THAT MEANS ALL EVENT TOKENS FOR THE NEXT NINE MONTHS ARE WORTHLESS TO ME.
Who comes up with this nonsense?
Yes, I could buy berries for evolutions I don't care about, leaving them to rot in my bank. Or maybe we'll also be able to buy more Indrik feathers with tokens. But the fact is that I wanted one specific evolution, and will have to wait up to a year to get it. While others, who want the first evolution, will get it in a couple of months.
The evolution idea is pretty cool, allowing people to customise their mounts. But this is NOT the way to do it. This is the way to utterly alienate your players.
On top of which, this structure presumably means we will now be having four events a quarter in 2019. So if you're burnt out from the event bloat of the last quarter, well, dark times ahead.
Again, who comes up with the nonsense?
Edited by mjharper on January 4, 2019 12:43PM Who comes up with this nonsense?
Yes, I could buy berries for evolutions I don't care about, leaving them to rot in my bank. Or maybe we'll also be able to buy more Indrik feathers with tokens. But the fact is that I wanted one specific evolution, and will have to wait up to a year to get it. While others, who want the first evolution, will get it in a couple of months.
The evolution idea is pretty cool, allowing people to customise their mounts. But this is NOT the way to do it. This is the way to utterly alienate your players.
On top of which, this structure presumably means we will now be having four events a quarter in 2019. So if you're burnt out from the event bloat of the last quarter, well, dark times ahead.
Again, who comes up with the nonsense?
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Beardimus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Sorry, but wow...
ZOS give out free stuff, people complain.
People want events, ZOS put on events, people complain of 'burn out' as they decided to max out on free stuff / grind it all.
What can ZOS do?
I do not get the concept of 'burning out' in a video game, that we play to enjoy. I think the responsibility of that is on the players not the developers....Xbox One | EU | EP
Beardimus : VR16 Dunmer MagSorc [RIP MagDW 2015-2018]
Emperor of Sotha Sil 02-2018 & Sheogorath 05-2019
1st Emperor of RavenwatchAlts - - for the Lolz
Archimus : Bosmer Thief / Archer / Werewolf
Orcimus : Fat drunk Orc battlefield 1st aider
Scalimus - Argonian Sorc Healer / Pet master
Fighting small scale with : The SAXON Guild
Fighting with [PvP] : The Undaunted Wolves
Trading Guilds : TradersOfNirn | FourSquareTraders
Xbox One | NA | EP
Bëardimus : L43 Dunmer Magsorc / BG
Heals-With-Pets : VR16 Argonian Sorc PvP / BG Healer
Nordimus : VR16 Stamsorc
Beardimus le 13iem : L30 Dunmer Magsorc Icereach12 -
SydneyGrey✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I want the white and golden indriks but not the green one, so I feel your pain.
We can buy more feathers for future indriks while we're waiting for our favorites, at least.1 -
mjharper✭✭✭✭Sorry, but wow...
ZOS give out free stuff, people complain.
People want events, ZOS put on events, people complain of 'burn out' as they decided to max out on free stuff / grind it all.
What can ZOS do?
Your brother gets a present for Christmas. You have to wait another nine months for no apparent reason. They are both 'free'. But are you going to be happy with that?I do not get the concept of 'burning out' in a video game, that we play to enjoy.
If you had 'fun' grinding for RNG ice skin in the last event, you are probably the only one.
Burnout can come from many / any source. If you don't think you can get it from a video game, you probably don't understand the concept of burnout, and you probably don't understand why people stop playing video games.I think the responsibility of that is on the players not the developers....
This is irresponsible. Companies which design mechanics that encourage grinding are responsible for designing those mechanics. Same as tobacco companies are responsible for selling tobacco. The 'personal responsibility' argument is a fallacy perpetuated by predatory companies. Yes, as individuals and players we have responsibility. But that does not absolve companies of their responsibilities. It is not an 'either/or' world, and thinking in those terms is, as I said, irresponsible. [/rant]Edited by mjharper on January 4, 2019 1:02PM8 -
Notarikon777✭✭Sorry, but wow...
ZOS give out free stuff, people complain.
People want events, ZOS put on events, people complain of 'burn out' as they decided to max out on free stuff / grind it all.
What can ZOS do?
I do not get the concept of 'burning out' in a video game, that we play to enjoy. I think the responsibility of that is on the players not the developers....
Totally agree with Beardimus.
Sorry to see, but most of the time the problems in the players's heads, not in the developers/publishers.
If you say "its not true,, just click on RECENT, an read the first page titles...7 -
Danikat✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I suspected that would be the case when the mount menu only showed the nascent and dawnwood indriks as locked mounts - it implied the others would be added later.
In this case I got lucky - the dawnwood is the one I really want. But since they've said each set of berries will only be available in that quarter and we don't know yet if it's a permanent system or (more likely given ZOS) only for this year I think I'm going to aim for all of them, since it may be the only chance.PC EU player | She/her/hers | PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates!
"Remember in this game we call life that no one said it's fair"1 -
mjharper✭✭✭✭Notarikon777 wrote: »
Totally agree with Beardimus.
Sorry to see, but most of the time the problems in the players's heads, not in the developers/publishers.
If you say "its not true,, just click on RECENT, an read the first page titles...
This 'it's in the player's heads' is why we can't have nice things.
It might be in the player's heads. But that does not absolve companies of their responsibilities.
If I must take responsibility for my choices, then companies must be held responsible for theirs.4 -
heaven13✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I think it would be a lot more fun/awesome, if all evolutions were available from the start. People could work on the one they want and after Q1, there would be possibly 5 different types of indriks running around. This can only be beneficial, imo.
People who want all the versions will get all the versions anyway and people who weren't sure on certain ones may like them more once they see other people riding them. And once people get the version they want might decide to keep evolving indriks anyway since they'll still be earning tickets during events. People who only ever wanted one and hate events won't change their mind.
As it stands now, you have people like OP who are incredibly salty (with reason) that they have to wait almost a year before they can start earning the one they want. They'll likely be 1 of 2 people: ones who didn't want to participate in events and won't because there's no reason or ones who would have participated anyway and will just stop caring about ticket cap and doing it every day for event ticket.PC/NAMountain God | Leave No Bone Unbroken | Apex Predator | Pure Lunacy | Depths Defier | No Rest for the Wicked | In Defiance of DeathMeet my characters :
Defanged the Devourer | Nature's Wrath | Relentless Raider | True Genius | Bane of Thorns | Subterranean Smasher | Ardent Bibliophile
vAA HM | vHRC HM | vSO HM | vDSA | vMoL HM | vHoF HM | vAS+2 | vCR+2 | vBRP | vSS HM | vKA | vRGIT DOESN'T MATTER BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL THE SAME NOW, THANKS ZOS6 -
Notarikon777✭✭mjharper
Dont get it on you, what i wrote. Some shame on the players, others are on the devs. That the way of mmorpg-s.
But... and is always a but, lot of people said, mmorpg-s not sprints... they are marathons.
I dont know which indrik will i choose, but i'll be patient. My time will come ! So as yours
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Kikke✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No worries, at end of Q1 you can buy tickets from crown store. And for each upgrade you need 4 berries. Most likely same price as feathers. So much for 'free' xDCleared Trials:
- vAA HM - vHRC HM - vSO HM - vMoL HM - vHoF HM - vAS HM - vCR HM -
"The journey of a thousand miles begins with one step, and a lot of bitching."
-Someone said it, I guess.1 -
mjharper✭✭✭✭Notarikon777 wrote: »mjharper
Dont get it on you, what i wrote. Some shame on the players, others are on the devs. That the way of mmorpg-s.
But... and is always a but, lot of people said, mmorpg-s not sprints... they are marathons.
I dont know which indrik will i choose, but i'll be patient. My time will come ! So as yours
I know it will come. I've been looking forward to the upgrade, because it worked for my current character. But will I care about it in a year's time? That's unlikely. And unnecessary.0 -
Tandor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I don't disagree with the dislike of having too many events, one straight after another. One can have too much of anything - including similar looking Indriks, I can't begin to imagine the appeal.
However, as to whether you have to wait for your favorite Indrik to appear, that only has two alternative solutions. Either you get yours now and everyone else has to wait for their different favorite, or everyone gets everything now. I suspect the latter is where far too many players are at these days, the whole concept of a MMORPG being for years, not weeks or even months, seems to have totally been dropped by a lot of players. Free stuff has become not only an entitlement, but an immediate entitlement.
Of course, the moment ZOS changed things so it all became available immediately the forum would be packed with "Cash grab before the game shuts!" claims
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Developers can never win!3 -
mjharper✭✭✭✭No worries, at end of Q1 you can buy tickets from crown store. And for each upgrade you need 4 berries. Most likely same price as feathers. So much for 'free' xD
I saw that too. 'If you have event burnout, why not skip the grind and GIVE US MORE MONEY'.
Yup, the grind is here to stay. Whether the player base is remains to be seen.
Actually, no it doesn't. This is standard business practice for a product in the mature stage of its life cycle. It's not attracting new customers, so get as much as you can out of the customers who remain.0 -
heaven13✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I don't disagree with the dislike of having too many events, one straight after another. One can have too much of anything - including similar looking Indriks, I can't begin to imagine the appeal.
However, as to whether you have to wait for your favorite Indrik to appear, that only has two alternative solutions. Either you get yours now and everyone else has to wait for their different favorite, or everyone gets everything now. I suspect the latter is where far too many players are at these days, the whole concept of a MMORPG being for years, not weeks or even months, seems to have totally been dropped by a lot of players. Free stuff has become not only an entitlement, but an immediate entitlement.
Of course, the moment ZOS changed things so it all became available immediately the forum would be packed with "Cash grab before the game shuts!" claims !
Developers can never win!
Respectfully disagree.
Everyone doesn't need to get everything now. If all 4 types of berries are available, but tickets are still limited by event, you could still only earn enough to evolve one Indrik a quarter. Same as now in that it would still take time to get everything, but the order is in the hands of each individual player.PC/NAMountain God | Leave No Bone Unbroken | Apex Predator | Pure Lunacy | Depths Defier | No Rest for the Wicked | In Defiance of DeathMeet my characters :
Defanged the Devourer | Nature's Wrath | Relentless Raider | True Genius | Bane of Thorns | Subterranean Smasher | Ardent Bibliophile
vAA HM | vHRC HM | vSO HM | vDSA | vMoL HM | vHoF HM | vAS+2 | vCR+2 | vBRP | vSS HM | vKA | vRGIT DOESN'T MATTER BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL THE SAME NOW, THANKS ZOS2 -
mjharper✭✭✭✭I don't disagree with the dislike of having too many events, one straight after another. One can have too much of anything - including similar looking Indriks, I can't begin to imagine the appeal.
However, as to whether you have to wait for your favorite Indrik to appear, that only has two alternative solutions. Either you get yours now and everyone else has to wait for their different favorite, or everyone gets everything now. I suspect the latter is where far too many players are at these days, the whole concept of a MMORPG being for years, not weeks or even months, seems to have totally been dropped by a lot of players. Free stuff has become not only an entitlement, but an immediate entitlement.
Of course, the moment ZOS changed things so it all became available immediately the forum would be packed with "Cash grab before the game shuts!" claims !
Developers can never win!
I'm not complaining about free stuff. I complaining about the apparent schedule of constant events for the next year, and the free stuff being kept of a drip feed to keep you grinding at those events, AND that they took an interesting concept (evolution) for personalisation and ruined like this.0 -
mjharper✭✭✭✭I don't disagree with the dislike of having too many events, one straight after another. One can have too much of anything - including similar looking Indriks, I can't begin to imagine the appeal.
However, as to whether you have to wait for your favorite Indrik to appear, that only has two alternative solutions. Either you get yours now and everyone else has to wait for their different favorite, or everyone gets everything now. I suspect the latter is where far too many players are at these days, the whole concept of a MMORPG being for years, not weeks or even months, seems to have totally been dropped by a lot of players. Free stuff has become not only an entitlement, but an immediate entitlement.
Of course, the moment ZOS changed things so it all became available immediately the forum would be packed with "Cash grab before the game shuts!" claims !
Developers can never win!
Respectfully disagree.
Everyone doesn't need to get everything now. If all 4 types of berries are available, but tickets are still limited by event, you could still only earn enough to evolve one Indrik a quarter. Same as now in that it would still take time to get everything, but the order is in the hands of each individual player.
This, exactly. The question is, why didn't they organise it like you suggest?1 -
tactx✭✭✭✭✭I love how every time something happens that someone doesn't agree with RANDOM CAPS HAPPENS and they instantly represent all players and know WHAT ALIENATES PLAYERS because they're MMO marketing experts! Get over yourself...“No one's happiness but my own is in my power to achieve or to destroy.” - John Galt, Atlas Shrugged1 -
mjharper✭✭✭✭I love how every time something happens that someone doesn't agree with RANDOM CAPS HAPPENS and they instantly represent all players and know WHAT ALIENATES PLAYERS because they're MMO marketing experts! Get over yourself...
Yes, you totally convinced me I'm wrong. Did you even read what I wrote, or just look for CAPITALS to be dismissive?
I did not speak for ALL players (MORE CAPS). I spoke for those of us, like myself, who may be alienated by having to wait up to a year to get the Indrik evolution they wanted.0 -
Beardimus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Sorry, but wow...
ZOS give out free stuff, people complain.
People want events, ZOS put on events, people complain of 'burn out' as they decided to max out on free stuff / grind it all.
What can ZOS do?
Your brother gets a present for Christmas. You have to wait another nine months for no apparent reason. They are both 'free'. But are you going to be happy with that?I do not get the concept of 'burning out' in a video game, that we play to enjoy.
If you had 'fun' grinding for RNG ice skin in the last event, you are probably the only one.
Burnout can come from many / any source. If you don't think you can get it from a video game, you probably don't understand the concept of burnout, and you probably don't understand why people stop playing video games.I think the responsibility of that is on the players not the developers....
This is irresponsible. Companies which design mechanics that encourage grinding are responsible for designing those mechanics. Same as tobacco companies are responsible for selling tobacco. The 'personal responsibility' argument is a fallacy perpetuated by predatory companies. Yes, as individuals and players we have responsibility. But that does not absolve companies of their responsibilities. It is not an 'either/or' world, and thinking in those terms is, as I said, irresponsible. [/rant]
Sorry @mjharper but I completely & fundamentally disagree with all your points here.
In short my view is : Free stuff is cool and I'm grateful for it, grinding something to death is the players choice to want it 'all' / max out. I don't grind, I don't have the stuff. Player choice. And players choosing to burn out rather than just enjoy a video game is again, on them. All the counter arguements just feel like entitlement to me. Personal view.
Given my time spent on this and other forums I can see we are of a different opinion / outlook fundamentally on this point. So ill go no further on this than to say we can agree to disagree, as Its prob the healthiest thing to do. All the best & hope you get your mount sorted.Xbox One | EU | EP
Beardimus : VR16 Dunmer MagSorc [RIP MagDW 2015-2018]
Emperor of Sotha Sil 02-2018 & Sheogorath 05-2019
1st Emperor of RavenwatchAlts - - for the Lolz
Archimus : Bosmer Thief / Archer / Werewolf
Orcimus : Fat drunk Orc battlefield 1st aider
Scalimus - Argonian Sorc Healer / Pet master
Fighting small scale with : The SAXON Guild
Fighting with [PvP] : The Undaunted Wolves
Trading Guilds : TradersOfNirn | FourSquareTraders
Xbox One | NA | EP
Bëardimus : L43 Dunmer Magsorc / BG
Heals-With-Pets : VR16 Argonian Sorc PvP / BG Healer
Nordimus : VR16 Stamsorc
Beardimus le 13iem : L30 Dunmer Magsorc Icereach2 -
mjharper✭✭✭✭Sorry, but wow...
ZOS give out free stuff, people complain.
People want events, ZOS put on events, people complain of 'burn out' as they decided to max out on free stuff / grind it all.
What can ZOS do?
Your brother gets a present for Christmas. You have to wait another nine months for no apparent reason. They are both 'free'. But are you going to be happy with that?I do not get the concept of 'burning out' in a video game, that we play to enjoy.
If you had 'fun' grinding for RNG ice skin in the last event, you are probably the only one.
Burnout can come from many / any source. If you don't think you can get it from a video game, you probably don't understand the concept of burnout, and you probably don't understand why people stop playing video games.I think the responsibility of that is on the players not the developers....
This is irresponsible. Companies which design mechanics that encourage grinding are responsible for designing those mechanics. Same as tobacco companies are responsible for selling tobacco. The 'personal responsibility' argument is a fallacy perpetuated by predatory companies. Yes, as individuals and players we have responsibility. But that does not absolve companies of their responsibilities. It is not an 'either/or' world, and thinking in those terms is, as I said, irresponsible. [/rant]
Sorry @mjharper but I completely & fundamentally disagree with all your points here.
In short my view is : Free stuff is cool and I'm grateful for it, grinding something to death is the players choice to want it 'all' / max out. I don't grind, I don't have the stuff. Player choice. And players choosing to burn out rather than just enjoy a video game is again, on them. All the counter arguements just feel like entitlement to me. Personal view.
Given my time spent on this and other forums I can see we are of a different opinion / outlook fundamentally on this point. So ill go no further on this than to say we can agree to disagree, as Its prob the healthiest thing to do. All the best & hope you get your mount sorted.
Fair enough. Curious about 'and other forums', since this is the first time I've made anything resembling an angry thread. Oh well, all the best.0 -
Knootewoot✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Edited by Knootewoot on January 4, 2019 1:39PM٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶
"I am a nightblade. Blending the disciplines of the stealthy agent and subtle wizard, I move unseen and undetected, foil locks and traps, and teleport to safety when threatened, or strike like a viper from ambush. The College of Illusion hides me and fuddles or pacifies my opponents. The College of Mysticism detects my object, reflects and dispels enemy spells, and makes good my escape. The key to a nightblade's success is avoidance, by spell or by stealth; with these skills, all things are possible."1 -
Beardimus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Sorry, but wow...
ZOS give out free stuff, people complain.
People want events, ZOS put on events, people complain of 'burn out' as they decided to max out on free stuff / grind it all.
What can ZOS do?
Your brother gets a present for Christmas. You have to wait another nine months for no apparent reason. They are both 'free'. But are you going to be happy with that?I do not get the concept of 'burning out' in a video game, that we play to enjoy.
If you had 'fun' grinding for RNG ice skin in the last event, you are probably the only one.
Burnout can come from many / any source. If you don't think you can get it from a video game, you probably don't understand the concept of burnout, and you probably don't understand why people stop playing video games.I think the responsibility of that is on the players not the developers....
This is irresponsible. Companies which design mechanics that encourage grinding are responsible for designing those mechanics. Same as tobacco companies are responsible for selling tobacco. The 'personal responsibility' argument is a fallacy perpetuated by predatory companies. Yes, as individuals and players we have responsibility. But that does not absolve companies of their responsibilities. It is not an 'either/or' world, and thinking in those terms is, as I said, irresponsible. [/rant]
Sorry @mjharper but I completely & fundamentally disagree with all your points here.
In short my view is : Free stuff is cool and I'm grateful for it, grinding something to death is the players choice to want it 'all' / max out. I don't grind, I don't have the stuff. Player choice. And players choosing to burn out rather than just enjoy a video game is again, on them. All the counter arguements just feel like entitlement to me. Personal view.
Given my time spent on this and other forums I can see we are of a different opinion / outlook fundamentally on this point. So ill go no further on this than to say we can agree to disagree, as Its prob the healthiest thing to do. All the best & hope you get your mount sorted.
Fair enough. Curious about 'and other forums', since this is the first time I've made anything resembling an angry thread. Oh well, all the best.
Ah sorry misunderstanding, I didn't mean you on other forums! I meant how these chats generally can go
I.e. when its an entirely different viewpoint between two people the back & forth etc generally will change neither persons viewpoint and just get heated. We differ on this one, ive made my points so that's it. But wish you all the best.Xbox One | EU | EP
Beardimus : VR16 Dunmer MagSorc [RIP MagDW 2015-2018]
Emperor of Sotha Sil 02-2018 & Sheogorath 05-2019
1st Emperor of RavenwatchAlts - - for the Lolz
Archimus : Bosmer Thief / Archer / Werewolf
Orcimus : Fat drunk Orc battlefield 1st aider
Scalimus - Argonian Sorc Healer / Pet master
Fighting small scale with : The SAXON Guild
Fighting with [PvP] : The Undaunted Wolves
Trading Guilds : TradersOfNirn | FourSquareTraders
Xbox One | NA | EP
Bëardimus : L43 Dunmer Magsorc / BG
Heals-With-Pets : VR16 Argonian Sorc PvP / BG Healer
Nordimus : VR16 Stamsorc
Beardimus le 13iem : L30 Dunmer Magsorc Icereach0 -
Tasear✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭This oddly makes me feel better... I was thinking my dream black one would be last actually.0 -
tactx✭✭✭✭✭I love how every time something happens that someone doesn't agree with RANDOM CAPS HAPPENS and they instantly represent all players and know WHAT ALIENATES PLAYERS because they're MMO marketing experts! Get over yourself...
Yes, you totally convinced me I'm wrong. Did you even read what I wrote, or just look for CAPITALS to be dismissive?
I did not speak for ALL players (MORE CAPS). I spoke for those of us, like myself, who may be alienated by having to wait up to a year to get the Indrik evolution they wanted.
It's not about right or wrong. You don't get what YOU WANT immediately and now requires patience, but since you clearly are lacking in that department, you're throwing a forum temper tantrum because you disagree with how they've planned this evolution process so you jump to the conclusion that you know what all players want which is evidenced by saying "This is the way to utterly alienate your players." This is language speaking for all players edit: or you're speaking like you know how it works from an MMO company perspective which I highly doubt you know anything about.
A less selfish whiny version could be: Well, it's going to take a while to get the evolution I want. At least I'll be ready when it's time, and as a bonus since not everyone will have the patience maybe I'll have something a little bit more rare.
This is an MMO. They're meant to take time. I think this is a great way for you to learn if something doesn't agree with you, then that doesn't make it wrong or "nonsense." Try to look at things from other perspectives. It'll help you later in life. If you're already old... maybe it'll help you before you die.
Edited by tactx on January 4, 2019 2:19PM“No one's happiness but my own is in my power to achieve or to destroy.” - John Galt, Atlas Shrugged4 -
mjharper✭✭✭✭I love how every time something happens that someone doesn't agree with RANDOM CAPS HAPPENS and they instantly represent all players and know WHAT ALIENATES PLAYERS because they're MMO marketing experts! Get over yourself...
Yes, you totally convinced me I'm wrong. Did you even read what I wrote, or just look for CAPITALS to be dismissive?
I did not speak for ALL players (MORE CAPS). I spoke for those of us, like myself, who may be alienated by having to wait up to a year to get the Indrik evolution they wanted.
It's not about right or wrong. You don't get what YOU WANT immediately and now requires patience, but since you clearly are lacking in that department, and you disagree with how they've planned this evolution process you jump to the conclusion that you know what all players want which is evidenced by saying "This is the way to utterly alienate your players." This is language speaking for all players.
A less selfish whiny version could be: Well, it's going to take a while to get the evolution I want. At least I'll be ready when it's time, and as a bonus since not everyone will have the patience maybe I'll have something a little bit more rare.
This is an MMO. They're meant to take time. I think this is a great way for you to learn if something doesn't agree with you, then that doesn't make it wrong or "nonsense." Try to look at things from other perspectives. It'll help you later in life. If you're already old... maybe it'll help you before you die.
Actually, no. If I had said "This is the way to alienate ALL your players" I would have been speaking for all players. I didn't. There is an ambiguity in the phrase 'your players', but you're reading too much into it when you assert that I was intentionally speaking for everyone. Especially since you highlighted the capitalisation, in which I specifically said TO ME.
I could have phrased it more precisely. I could have said 'alienate players like me.' Fair enough. But you're now ascribing me an intention based on ambiguous language, not supported by more specific language I actually used, and which I've denied.
Also, MMOs take time. Fine. But explain to me what was wrong with the suggestion made by heaven13: you can by all berries each quarter, but only evolve one mount a quarter. Same time to evolve all four. But everyone gets to prioritise now, and no-one has to wait any longer than anyone else.
MMOs take time does not explain or justify the specific structure here.3
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