Do ZOS really care about ESO?

  • Narvuntien
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    Yes ZOS cares about the game and fixing problems
    It's possible that they do know how to fix it but just don't have the man power or time to fix it. Atm that is what I am leaning towards its possible just not with what they have available on top of that they have the pressure to continue to produce new content to keep people interested and playing the game.

    Most of the crown store stuff is just reused assets from the content they produce a way to pay the games wonderful artists. Not the people tasked with dealing with performance or balance issues.

    I have argued in the past they don't know what they are doing balance wise but I have seen positive changes, just really slowly on the balance front. Which makes me think its lack of resources.
  • Gnozo
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    ZOS only cares about their crown store
    From my personal feeling i dont think they really care about making a good game. They care about fast money from pushing out content asap.

    They are several videos on youtube about how the state of the game feels for endgame players. From Kasa, crescent, Christopher ESO etc.

    Balance is even worse then one tamriel. Bleeds, steel tornado, sloads and zaan dominating BGs. BG queue still broken af.

    Cyro is more laggy then ever and isnt rewarding or fun if you try to cast a healing ability 7 times before it actually healing . For players who have a full time Job and can only play after 5pm pvp isnt possible cause of huge lag. 5 sec to unlock skills after dodge roll isnt accetable in any case.

    Community has reached a level where toxic doesnt even fit anymore. Getting zerged down 20v2 and then getting multiple t-bags out of nowhere. Getting tbag from 3 snipers after they sniped you from horse....

    So many friends quitting this game or rarely playing anymore mostly due to crazy lag in cyrodiil. This is just sad and frustrating . No communication or improvement from zos for this horrifying lag wich kills the fun for pvpers. Nothing. Oh wait, Gina made fun of it, at least some communication ..... i guess?
  • Thorstienn
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    Same as all modern games.

    The suits don't give a hoot about the gaming community or games in general, just making money from them.

    Us customers, are at fault as we have backed then over the years with their horrible business practices at every turn; forking over thousands of dollars to speed up something, to change the color of something, to play a faction already in a game etc, instead of demanding day 1 complete functional AAA quality games.

    Meanwhile the Devs? Well the longer they work like this, the more like the suits they become as they like the paycheck, but I'm sure they begin as a gamer.

    Take from that what you will, but I dont think it's as simple as the poll implies.
  • ookami007
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    ZOS only cares about their crown store
    Cuz crown store items are... So shiny!


  • Thannazzar
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    ZOS care about eso.....

    Devs and community team Yes.

    Marketing only care about the crown store.
  • DeadlyRecluse
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    Yes ZOS cares about the game and fixing problems
    Does Ford really care about trucks?

    This is a poorly phrased question, of course they care about ESO in some sense.

    They don't necessarily care about you, your experience, or your vision for ESO, though.
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  • Tasear
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    Yes ZOS cares about the game and fixing problems
    Yes though sometimes they don't realize the problem as well as players are perceiving issues. To much looking at numbers and not human data.
  • Kilnerdyne
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    ZOS only cares about their crown store
    Anybody who has played this game for the last 4 years knows what a shame it has been to see such a great game with amazing potential & an awesome community get continuously shafted by some of the worst technical & customer support humanity has had endure so far in it's existence.

    Worse than EA.
  • Drdeath20
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    ZOS only cares about their crown store
    Every month there are new crown crates and motifs but the same old problems are there.
  • wenchmore420b14_ESO
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    Deleted comment... I was mistaken...Lol...
    Edited by wenchmore420b14_ESO on January 2, 2019 5:35PM
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  • Perwulf
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    ZOS only cares about their crown store
    “When the people that can make the company more successful are sales and marketing people, they end up running the companies. The product people get driven out of the decision making forums, and the companies forget what it means to make great products.”

    _Steve Jobs (The Lost Interview)

    What this guy said.

    Also, there are bugs from betas that are still in the game.

    Edited by Perwulf on January 2, 2019 5:59PM
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  • notimetocare
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    No company has a game they don't care about unless its shutting down or going into maintenance mode. The dev team cares about one thing. The game and it being fun.

    Unfortunately, the dev's have to do what they are told because someone pays their check. Want to stay employed? You listen, regardless of what you think is best.

    Companies are in a weird place. They care about the game because that makes happy players but they have to both keep the lights on and make profit. No profit, no game
  • wenchmore420b14_ESO
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    No company has a game they don't care about unless its shutting down or going into maintenance mode. The dev team cares about one thing. The game and it being fun.

    Unfortunately, the dev's have to do what they are told because someone pays their check. Want to stay employed? You listen, regardless of what you think is best.

    Companies are in a weird place. They care about the game because that makes happy players but they have to both keep the lights on and make profit. No profit, no game

    Which is why we saw so many people who were the creative force behind ESO since 2007 leave ZoS in early 2015.
    As far as a profit, this is true. But people make it sound like ZoS is financially strapped. It's not. Zenimax Media is multi billion dollar company. (At least they were before FO76...lmao!)
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  • j.greenmanb16_ESO
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    ZOS only cares about their crown store
    Their crown store has been getting greasier and greasier as time goes on.

    - outrageous pricing mixed both desirable items with a limited time offers (damn near forcing people to turn out their pockets if they want something great)
    - Reskin upon reskin of pets and mounts
    - unclear descriptions (outfit slots which are expensive are 1500 per character, NOT account. It was stated once on the website, but not so in game where you actually look)
    - garbage mementos (vassa sotl and murkmire drum are not on a loop? friggn stupid!
    - Offering pre-order only items in the crown store (A god damn slap in the face to anyone who pre-orders)

    And its getting worse as time goes on. And I hate how many people either don't see it, or don't care because they have the money


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  • ccmedaddy
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    ZOS only cares about their crown store
    Why speculate on this issue when a ZOS employee has already made it clear for us?



    ZOS obviously cares about the crown sales part of ESO. They're so proud of how much money they're making with the monetization aspect of the game.

    But the complaints about the game's performance from players? ZOS will roll their eyes at them.
  • IronWooshu
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    ZOS only cares about their crown store
    I think they care about the game because this is a job for many people and making sure the game is good is your job security so anyone voting that they dont care are being ignorant to the problem because the next game they make could be Fallout 76 and for a smaller studio a blunder like that would collapse them and leave a bunch of devs out of work.

    Right now I think too much is focused around the crown store since it goes back to my main point, this game is job security to many people employed by Zenimax.

    It seems ESO has seen a lot of new players over the last few months, they would be doing right by us at least starting big and fixing the lag problems in Cyrodill.
    Edited by IronWooshu on January 2, 2019 7:38PM
  • MEBengalsFan2001
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    Yes ZOS cares about the game and fixing problems
    I come from other MMO games and compared to the companies running those games, ZOS does care and by leap and bounds.

    As for the crown store items, including crates, these items helps fund the game beyond the revenue generated by chapter sales and ESO+. I personally don't plan to put more money into the game other than buying chapters and ESO+ but the game does offer plenty if all you have is the base game and ESO+.

    As for fixing lag in highly populated areas in a MMO game is more about the connection between the player and the server. Even the best servers can have hiccups resulting in lag. One thing I noticed for myself is upgrading my hardware on my console from a standard HD to a Solid State along with increasing my ISP speed I went from having quite a few issues with lag to nearly none. Now it is hardly perfect as I still run into issues but I know part of the issue is on my end and not that of the company.

    Now onto the the topic of crates; what ZOS has in the crates IMO are better than the random loot boxes of other games and the crates don't contain anything that you can't get from the crown store or make in game; this makes the crates great for players who are seeking additional costumes, mounts, pets, etc... nothing in the crates really have a game impact other than style and that is how crates should be for any mmo.

    As for bugs as long as the devs are trying to fix them as they are able to given resources to work on the bug fixes and if the bug is a game changer or not is how any MMO dev works on improving the game. Most MMOs I have played have had day one bugs present 5 years later and that is because the bug does not halt progress in the game or impact a player experience to the point where the player quits. Yeah the bugs that existed for a while are annoying but consider it part of playing a MMO game.

    I'm happy with ZoS thus far. I'm still wet behind the ears with regards to ESO, end game, etc... but not new to the whole MMO thing or how devs go about handling updates, bug fixes, class balances, etc... ZoS IMO, honestly seems to care and seems to want to get ESO in a better place, not only for the casuals but for most players.
  • Veinblood1965
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    Yes they do hate us. They have these huge meetings and all they do is sit around flinging out ideas to make game play horrible. the conversation goes something like this....

    Well does anyone have any ideas to make the game less enjoyable?

    Well we could induce some lag on the PVP server that way less people will play PVP and quit which cuts down on negative posts and reports ingame.

    Let's BUFF the Skeevers around jewelry nodes to one shot players that are over 100 CP points. OMG they will never figure this one out!

    Let's make guards not stop chasing thieves until they die, but as a twist let's cause this to happen only on every odd hour once they die ALL the gold they have is gone on all characters.

    Oh wait, here's a great idea! When a player leaves a PUG in mid dungeon have them ported to the final boss "alone".

    Joking but you KNOW the thought crosses their minds lol.
  • Jaraal
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    They do care, but they don't know how to fix the problems
    They obviously don’t know how to fix these problems, or they would have done so by now. The only other option is that they know how to, but don’t want to spend the money to do so.
  • zyk
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    ZOS only cares about their crown store

    We smell poop while ZOS smells roses.
  • AefionBloodclaw
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    ZOS only cares about their crown store
    Their crown store has been getting greasier and greasier as time goes on.

    - outrageous pricing mixed both desirable items with a limited time offers (damn near forcing people to turn out their pockets if they want something great)
    - Reskin upon reskin of pets and mounts
    - unclear descriptions (outfit slots which are expensive are 1500 per character, NOT account. It was stated once on the website, but not so in game where you actually look)
    - garbage mementos (vassa sotl and murkmire drum are not on a loop? friggn stupid!
    - Offering pre-order only items in the crown store (A god damn slap in the face to anyone who pre-orders)

    And its getting worse as time goes on. And I hate how many people either don't see it, or don't care because they have the money


    THIS ^

    I believe that the artists and writers and musicians are passionate about what they do, and they deserve the credit for making a beautiful, awesome world in which to explore. BUT I also believe that the marketing team at ZoS are without morals, trying to make money and not caring about the players at all, and actively ignoring all player feedback, especially about nonsensical things like selling houses and such for only limited time (because you can't make money off things which aren't available.)
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