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vMA RNG

MJallday
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Seem to be having some rubbish RNG in vMA

My first 10 clears

1 x ice staff
2 x battle axes
6 x axe and shield
1 x bow

So so helpful when you’re needing stuff for a mag char ie a lightning or inferno

Anyone else had a run this rubbish?
  • Donny_Vito
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    Welcome to the party. I can't even count how many similar posts like this I've seen, and yes I've also experienced this. It took me 25+ runs to get an Inferno Staff and another 10+ to get the Bow. After that, I probably got five of each in the next 10 runs. RNG sucks.
  • Lykanus
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    Had on my first 3 runs 2 inferno staffs, well guess what i'm a stamina user looking for a bow ;)
  • kargen27
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    I was most the way through my first run, decided I wasn't having fun and left. Threads like this make me think I made the right decision. Last night I was working on getting gear for a couple of characters and thought maybe I should give vMA another go for weapons. Thank you for reminding me why I probably don't want to do that.

    And I hope you get your stave next run!
    and then the parrot said, "must be the water mines green too."
  • Shantu
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    RGN does indeed suck. Never quite understood the idea of including features in your product that frustrate and annoy the hell out of your customers. Maybe they think if they *** you off enough you'll go buy some crowns or renew your sub. :/
  • Tholian1
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    Are the loot tables weighted to give you the opposite of what would be useful for your role?
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  • MaleAmazon
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    If you really want to run it again and again wait until you have a really good character that you are actually having fun with. Or wait until there is the double reward event, I assume it is coming back.

    Take breaks. It is just a game, it is not supposed to be painful and boring.
    Edited by MaleAmazon on December 28, 2018 8:40PM
  • therift
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    I have a guildie who suffered through 130+ runs before an Inferno staff dropped.

    You have barely begun, unfortunately.

    I suggest balancing the potential of spending 40-50 hours running vMA for one specific item versus spending that time enjoying the game. vMA weapons are great, but they aren't needed to play the game well.
  • Donny_Vito
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    Tholian1 wrote: »
    Are the loot tables weighted to give you the opposite of what would be useful for your role?

    I'm not sure about this, but I believe it's actually the opposite for the weekly rewards. Every time I was on the weekly leader board for my MagSorc, I would always get a Staff for the reward. Most of the time it was an Ice Staff, but still a Staff.
  • Neoauspex
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    I leveled and equipped two full characters just to combat VMA rng. Stamina character always got staves Mag character got stam weapons more often.
  • Odovacar
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    The brutality of vMA RNG! I feel ya OP. Keep grinding and you'll get your sought after destro soon enough!
    Edited by Odovacar on December 28, 2018 9:07PM
  • SirAndy
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    Tholian1 wrote: »
    Are the loot tables weighted to give you the opposite of what would be useful for your role?
    Nail, meet hammer ...

    Whenever i need something specific from a dungeon or vMA, i always make a point to run with the character that is setup as far from what i'm looking for as possible.

    Need a inferno/lightning staff? Run with your dual wield stamina character.
    Need a bow? Run with your 1H/Shield tank.


    This has always worked well for me. And that comes from someone that is generally hated by the RNG gods ...
    bye1.gif


    Edited by SirAndy on December 28, 2018 9:10PM
  • MJallday
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    therift wrote: »
    I have a guildie who suffered through 130+ runs before an Inferno staff dropped.

    You have barely begun, unfortunately.

    I suggest balancing the potential of spending 40-50 hours running vMA for one specific item versus spending that time enjoying the game. vMA weapons are great, but they aren't needed to play the game well.

    This is what I’m aftaid of. I’ve heard similar stories.I’m capping out on my dps though, so an inferno or lightning would help. Luckily I can do it in 2 hours or so but it’s still a pain
  • MJallday
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    SirAndy wrote: »
    Tholian1 wrote: »
    Are the loot tables weighted to give you the opposite of what would be useful for your role?
    Nail, meet hammer ...

    Whenever i need something specific from a dungeon or vMA, i always make a point to run with the character that is setup as far from what i'm looking for as possible.

    Need a inferno/lightning staff? Run with your dual wield stamina character.
    Need a bow? Run with your 1H/Shield tank.


    This has always worked well for me. And that comes from someone that is generally hated by the RNG gods ...
    bye1.gif

    And this is what worries me. It’s not RNG at this point, it’s just pain

  • Neoauspex
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    I felt the same way, here's what I did: I dedicated a character to VMA and got good enough with him to always make the leaderboard. Then I just ran it with him once a week... Two for one that way so I wasn't investing all my game time fighting RNG. And the rewards you get are gold so at least you're getting mats when you get your 50th maul or ice staff or whatever.

    Well, that strategy wasn't working. So I leveled a 2nd character just for Maelstrom and started doing it twice a week, once on each character. More fun that way anyway: variety is the spice if life. First time I made the leaderboard with my 2nd character I got what I'd been wanting for 6-8th months in my rewards. But they were the rewards from my first character...

    Good luck. Orsinimium event will be here before you know it!
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    Lykanus wrote: »
    Had on my first 3 runs 2 inferno staffs, well guess what i'm a stamina user looking for a bow ;)

    It knows what you want, and won't give it to you.
  • MJallday
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    Yeah getting the feeling doing it on a stanlm chars might be the way forward !
  • JaZ2091
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    MJallday wrote: »
    Seem to be having some rubbish RNG in vMA

    My first 10 clears

    1 x ice staff
    2 x battle axes
    6 x axe and shield
    1 x bow

    So so helpful when you’re needing stuff for a mag char ie a lightning or inferno

    Anyone else had a run this rubbish?

    10 runs? 10 LOL. Try asking the ones who needed 500 runs.
  • Colecovision
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    JaZ2091 wrote: »
    MJallday wrote: »
    Seem to be having some rubbish RNG in vMA

    My first 10 clears

    1 x ice staff
    2 x battle axes
    6 x axe and shield
    1 x bow

    So so helpful when you’re needing stuff for a mag char ie a lightning or inferno

    Anyone else had a run this rubbish?

    10 runs? 10 LOL. Try asking the ones who needed 500 runs.

    Mmos have crushed your sense of self worth.
  • idk
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    It used to be worse when you also had to deal with the trait. ^^^ which is what Cole alluded to.
    Edited by idk on December 28, 2018 11:01PM
  • MythicaLMeddLer
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    As a stam only player I rolled in there to get the bow..My first run ever I got a..lightning staff..second run ever I got the bow..then as a weekly reward I got..two one handed swords..third run ever..bow...then weekly reward...bow..ha..I can't stop getting the bow..got 4 bows and I've only run Vma four times..
    Edited by MythicaLMeddLer on December 29, 2018 12:46AM
  • TheDarkoil
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    I got a sharpened inferno staff on my second run, was the double drop event so got 2 actually one infused I think.
  • Ciovala
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    The RNG sucks, but is just random. Run whichever class you prefer, it’s not giving specific evil loot. :persevere: I got inferno staff early on magicka class and bow after like 30 runs.
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  • Karmanorway
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    MJallday wrote: »
    Seem to be having some rubbish RNG in vMA

    My first 10 clears

    1 x ice staff
    2 x battle axes
    6 x axe and shield
    1 x bow

    So so helpful when you’re needing stuff for a mag char ie a lightning or inferno

    Anyone else had a run this rubbish?

    Clear it on a stam build. U Will get staffs all the time xD or if u go magicka build u Will only get stamina related weapons... I know it sounds weird, but seriously try it
  • Tholian1
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    MJallday wrote: »
    Seem to be having some rubbish RNG in vMA

    My first 10 clears

    1 x ice staff
    2 x battle axes
    6 x axe and shield
    1 x bow

    So so helpful when you’re needing stuff for a mag char ie a lightning or inferno

    Anyone else had a run this rubbish?

    Clear it on a stam build. U Will get staffs all the time xD or if u go magicka build u Will only get stamina related weapons... I know it sounds weird, but seriously try it

    That’s how it is with dungeons too. I only get magicka sets for my stamblade.
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  • MaxJrFTW
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    Around 30 clears in, and i haven't seen the inferno staff yet. Resto staff, sword and board close to 10 times, and bow at least 7 times including the last 5 runs.

    The destro staffs seem to have by far the lowest drop rate. I've seen 2 lightning, 1 ice, 0 inferno.

    That's also counting the weekly reward.
    Edited by MaxJrFTW on December 29, 2018 6:46AM
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  • blkjag
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    It took me months of farming vma to get my drop. Now I have multiples of everything. Mainly a stack of bows and ice staves
  • goldenarcher1
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    Stamina character.

    1st clear=Flame staff
    2nd clear= 2-hander
    3rd clear=Bow. :p

    No leaderboard scores for me,just desperate get-through-it-button-mashing.
    Edited by goldenarcher1 on December 29, 2018 9:38AM
  • AndyMac
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    Yep -I’ve seen the same - many clears and leaderboard mails got me many stam weapons on my mDK before I got an inferno.

    And that staff was the double drop during the Orsinium event.

    One clear on my stamplar and I got an inferno staff.
    Edited by AndyMac on December 29, 2018 11:09AM
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  • sevomd69
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    Only thing worse is vDSA RNG...My kingdom for a bow or resto staff...
  • gepe87
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    Got everything but lightning staff with 10 rounds. Still want to farm vDSA bow and frost staff but nobody wants to spend a lot of time on it.
    Edited by gepe87 on December 29, 2018 1:08PM
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