Stamina Blade

digitallego · December 2018

Hello there.
I right away apologize for my English.
I want know why stamblades in this patch are such miserable? I mean roll dodge has nerf, medium armor just joke against heavy armor players. Stam blade cannot getting normal long buff major resolve(for example stame sorc have got same buff for a long time) from class ability, it is given only for a short time. I can do the war in heavy armor and without stealth. But why doing the same, if stam sorc in this quality will be better? I have a stam sorc and I play it very well. I feel the difference, as the Stam Blade is bad against Stam Sorc or Stam DK. Same as magica sorc, magica dk.
My claims are: some classes have an advantage over other classes as dd in pvp.
Zos made worse the buff from the medium armor, you do not give to receive a normal buff (major resolve) on the stamina blade. Stealth is simply negligible if you are not a magic blade.
Anyway flashlights - potions - aoe damage - making too easy to control stealth now. Vampirism is simply monstrous. In the game, meta built on the fire and give overdamage from fire by vampires.
You can say that I can build such a build to play as many dd, shield + sword, two-handed and all that etc. But I want to play a ganker. if I wanted to play something else, I would go to stam sorc.
I hope to do something with it. At least they will give more better buffs and the ability make possible to live in medium armor. Today I was dying oneshot from Stam DK 1x1. In non-chp, I had 16k resists + blood spawn. I am not even a vampire and it was funny. Dawnbreaker + class damage skill + reverse slice. And he destroyed 22k of my hp in half a minute. At the same time he had 28k HP. I hit hard on him, but he had too high healing abulity and a lot of hp, and high damage.
Thanks for reading this

oXI_Viper_IXo · December 2018

Stamblade is top dog and has been for quite some time. There is nothing miserable about it and it definitely doesn't need to be buffed. This is coming from someone who mains a stamblade. Sounds like a l2p issue.

digitallego · December 2018

oXI_Viper_IXo wrote: »

Stamblade is top dog and has been for quite some time. There is nothing miserable about it and it definitely doesn't need to be buffed. This is coming from someone who mains a stamblade. Sounds like a l2p issue.

Well, I've been playing Stam Blade for two years now. When I play against high-skill players, I feel that the Stam Blade has poor class abulity. Especially in medium armor. I think the problem is medium armor and the fact that they don't give to receive more resists.
Btw i can tell anyone to learn to play. But I think that this is a problem from the way the balance is built. I don’t think it is wise.

digitallego · December 2018

oXI_Viper_IXo wrote: »

Stamblade is top dog and has been for quite some time. There is nothing miserable about it and it definitely doesn't need to be buffed. This is coming from someone who mains a stamblade. Sounds like a l2p issue.

besides, I think if you play on the xbox, there everything is different

oXI_Viper_IXo · December 2018

What sets are you using? What skills? What race? Do you use food/pots?

Vapirko · December 2018

Stamblades are powerful 1v1 and in any situation where they can “hit and run.” The only place where they aren’t good is organized groups vs other organized group. In this case they offer no group buffs and little AOE damage. But to be honest you’re issues sound like build and learn to play issues.

digitallego · December 2018

oXI_Viper_IXo wrote: »

What sets are you using? What skills? What race? Do you use food/pots?

These are funny questions. I have 32 rank in pvp. But my build is not the meta. I run without heavy armor and bleeds. Duals and bow and medium armor. It could be called crit blade. A lot of damage even on crit resists. While I somehow try to balance between survival and damage.

digitallego · December 2018

Vapirko wrote: »

Stamblades are powerful 1v1 and in any situation where they can “hit and run.” The only place where they aren’t good is organized groups vs other organized group. In this case they offer no group buffs and little AOE damage. But to be honest you’re issues sound like build and learn to play issues.

Do you think that running around to finding a victim for Cyrodiil, which is a lot of zerg, is this a normal situation?
For half an hour you kill two single players. This is where your gameplay ends. Because Zos do not even give a chance to survive 1x3 in battle skills players (but other classes have such opportunities)

oXI_Viper_IXo · December 2018

digitallego wrote: »

oXI_Viper_IXo wrote: »

What sets are you using? What skills? What race? Do you use food/pots?

These are funny questions. I have 32 rank in pvp. But my build is not the meta. I run without heavy armor and bleeds. Duals and bow and medium armor. It could be called crit blade. A lot of damage even on crit resists. While I somehow try to balance between survival and damage.

I'm not sure how they're funny questions. It sounded like you were struggling, so if we have a baseline of where you're starting from, it will be easier to offer advice. I'm rank 48 and also running a dual/bow medium setup.

Arkangeloski · December 2018

PM me your Xbox gt I might be able to help.

Unfadingsilence · December 2018

Played Stam NB on PC and Xbox and Stam blade in med armor is amazing is definitely sounds like a L2P issue since I can still 1v1 and 1vX In med armor. But I give up if the fight takes 10 mins @Arkangeloski ........ lol

jaime1982 · December 2018

Buff stamblade? Lmfao

technohic · December 2018

Build your stamblade differently. You cant build room gank and complain you cant play it like your stam sorc.

digitallego · December 2018

Unfadingsilence wrote: »

Played Stam NB on PC and Xbox and Stam blade in med armor is amazing is definitely sounds like a L2P issue since I can still 1v1 and 1vX In med armor. But I give up if the fight takes 10 mins @Arkangeloski ........ lol

Do you have 700-810 chp? In the chp campaigns this is possible, but non-chp is no if we are talking about combat

technohic wrote: »

Build your stamblade differently. You cant build room gank and complain you cant play it like your stam sorc.

it's sound strange because I wrote above that I want to play in quality a ganker and not with a war of heavy armor. my stam sorc has a build that is always 1st in bg. I love him.
Today, all the gankers look very bad. I can control and kill any ganker when i'm playing my stam sorc or stam warden or magica templar.
They do not have enough damage to fight against heavy armor and high healing. And do not have enough survival rate from shots.

digitallego · December 2018

jaime1982 wrote: »

Buff stamblade? Lmfao

I understand this class really offends you? L2P!

Arkangeloski · December 2018

Unfadingsilence wrote: »

Played Stam NB on PC and Xbox and Stam blade in med armor is amazing is definitely sounds like a L2P issue since I can still 1v1 and 1vX In med armor. But I give up if the fight takes 10 mins @Arkangeloski ........ lol

Arkangeloski · December 2018

Medium armor need a slight buff in the defense department imo, not the class tho, nb is one of the best classes to run in medium armor tbh if not the best.

FrancisCrawford · December 2018

One of the best 1vX nightblade skills in PvE is Reaper's (Reaping?) Mark -- kill one opponent, heal up from Mark, and repeat. My stamblade couldn't solo anything remotely challenging without it.

Does that also work in PvP?

Arkangeloski · December 2018

FrancisCrawford wrote: »

One of the best 1vX nightblade skills in PvE is Reaper's (Reaping?) Mark -- kill one opponent, heal up from Mark, and repeat. My stamblade couldn't solo anything remotely challenging without it.

Does that also work in PvP?

For real?

digitallego · December 2018

Arkangeloski wrote: »

Medium armor need a slight buff in the defense department imo, not the class tho, nb is one of the best classes to run in medium armor tbh if not the best.

May be yes. Or stam blade need a normal buff for resists. Blur is crude skill it needs more resists. The shadow of the blade in class abilities(Shadowy Disguise) gives too short a resist if you are not a magica blade

FrancisCrawford wrote: »

One of the best 1vX nightblade skills in PvE is Reaper's (Reaping?) Mark -- kill one opponent, heal up from Mark, and repeat. My stamblade couldn't solo anything remotely challenging without it.

Does that also work in PvP?

nope

CompM4s · December 2018

Stamblades are plenty strong. Can escape on command and have some of the highest burst potential. Between cloak and the shadow nb’s can easily surive against most.

digitallego · December 2018

I understand that people write here who do not have the main character of the NB and haven't long game experience. OK.

Waffennacht · December 2018

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digitallego wrote: »

I understand that people write here who do not have the main character of the NB and haven't long game experience. OK.

Wanna just hear that Stam NB is bad, that it's not your playing but it's the classes fault you don't succeed?

Sure someone could tell you that; but you won't get any better and you'll just keep losing

Koensol · December 2018

There is only one fitting response to this thread: L 2 P

Aedrion · December 2018

L2P?

You don't even need to learn how to play on stamblade. Build for full burst or full dots. Slot troll king. Get ~12k magicka.
Then cloak when you're low and reset the fight every time until eventually your incap combo or DoTs kill them.

That's it. NB is ESO on easy setting.

Royaji · December 2018

digitallego wrote: »

Or stam blade need a normal buff for resists. Blur is crude skill it needs more resists. The shadow of the blade in class abilities(Shadowy Disguise) gives too short a resist if you are not a magica blade

Passive Major Ward/Major Resolve from just using your spammable (and why in the world would you not use Surprise Attack?!) is not enough for you? Other classes have to use expensive skills with minor secondary effects and sacrifice valuable bar slots to get those buffs. This argument makes no sense.

technohic · December 2018

Aedrion wrote: »

L2P?

You don't even need to learn how to play on stamblade. Build for full burst or full dots. Slot troll king. Get ~12k magicka.
Then cloak when you're low and reset the fight every time until eventually your incap combo or DoTs kill them.

That's it. NB is ESO on easy setting.

I think this is the guys problem. He said something about having to wait around to get the kill to gank them; which your suggestion would do but he wants to jump right into the thick of battle like his stamsorc. If you do that, there's generally plenty to pull you out of cloak and medium armor will only get you so far. It is kind of ridiculous to expect both with the same build.

Slack · December 2018

After reading it again I understand now.
And this guy had got a very valid point.
It is all about fun.
But dying all the time in pvp is no fun.
So he looks for a build that destroys everything in an instant, before it can actually harm you.
Stamblade, as it is, can't achieve that.
Therefore - - - >>> Buff stamblade, make the amulet of akatosh power permanent, and the problem is solved

RamiroCruzo · December 2018

When mew have 9k Bow procs in death recap on 34k resistance DK and then sees this thread u_u Hoomans needs to be made slaves of cats.

Unfadingsilence · December 2018

digitallego wrote: »

Unfadingsilence wrote: »

Played Stam NB on PC and Xbox and Stam blade in med armor is amazing is definitely sounds like a L2P issue since I can still 1v1 and 1vX In med armor. But I give up if the fight takes 10 mins @Arkangeloski ........ lol

Do you have 700-810 chp? In the chp campaigns this is possible, but non-chp is no if we are talking about combat

technohic wrote: »

Build your stamblade differently. You cant build room gank and complain you cant play it like your stam sorc.

it's sound strange because I wrote above that I want to play in quality a ganker and not with a war of heavy armor. my stam sorc has a build that is always 1st in bg. I love him.
Today, all the gankers look very bad. I can control and kill any ganker when i'm playing my stam sorc or stam warden or magica templar.
They do not have enough damage to fight against heavy armor and high healing. And do not have enough survival rate from shots.

Yep I'm well over the CP cap I'm around 1500 CP atm and ya playing in med armor is amazing in BGs and none CP campaigns you just need to try different sets out since there are some AMAZING crafted sets to use in none CP and even in CP

ZOS_Mika · December 2018

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