I love the current CP system. When I PUG it's a visible indicator of how long someone has been playing the game. I know it's not ideal as there are plenty of useless 810s running around, but if I'm in a vet DLC dungeon I know that CP99 dps won't be any use.

I love the incremental upgrades to damage and survivability. And the small QOL things like "2% mounted speed" and "occasional double herbs from harvesting".

Works great for me. Wouldn't change a thing.

I also want the unbalanced stat increases to be removed from CP. If not, then I want the ability to change some kind of over world setting so regular mobs hit a lot harder than they do. I want that sense of danger back. Questing, for me at least, is no fun without it. I would love to see cool game play changes added to CP, instead, like adding a scope to your bow so you can zoom in and aim better. Additions that resemble how modders changed the Skyrim perk system.

I also hate that there is just no fun in the CP system once you reach CP cap. I am the casualest of players, often taking breaks for months before doing a little questing content here and there, and, for years now, I have never found myself below the CP cap. This means that for one day, after new content is released, I can assign 30 points to some boring stat advantage and it's done. There is no sense of reward at all as I level up and gain points because I can't even spend them when I get them. That said, there is nothing really exciting to spend them on, even if I could.

I am honestly kind of shocked nothing has been done about this yet. It's been such bad system for so long, decreasing the games fun much more than it's increasing it. I know a lot of the devs have high CP characters themselves. How can they not see things for what they are? It's really puzzling to me.

Tasear wrote: »

dazee wrote: »

CP should absolutely not be about "Specializing" into one boring role. CP is fine how it is although some stars could use some more diminishing returns perhaps.

I see your point. What about forks, so not everyone can have everything?

People already can't have EVERYTHING. becuase of how classes work. and how you can only slot 12 skills at a time. isn't that enough? the nice thing about ESO is how progression allows you to have most things over time, how about we don't ruin that.

We have all invested alot if time into CP. If they nerfed it too badly we would get a repeat of SWG when the NGE rolled out.

Only thing i would change is instead of 30cp per dlc, make it 75 cp per dlc that unlocks for use

Tasear wrote: »

If you could alter champion system then what would you do?

@Tasear If you're asking this, I suppose the Devs are wanting to change the System to something better, right?

Some ideas presented above (by players) are good, others are not.

I think the combat bonus shouldn't be totally removed. In my opinion, the system should be broken into several pieces:

• If we look at The Mage > The Apprentice, we have Elemental Expert. Elemental Expert could be broken into four stars: "Flame Expert", "Frost Expert", "Shock Expert" and "Magic Expert". If you want +15% damage bonus with Flame, Frost, Shock and Magic, you will need 400 Champion Points, not 100.
• Other stars that could be broken into several pieces: Mighty, Precise Strikes, Elfborn etc.
• Master-at-Arms, Thaumaturge, Elfborn and Precise Strikes max bonus: 15%, not 25%.
• Physical Weapon Expert and Staff Expert max bonus: 25%, not 35%.
• Well, Physical Weapon Expert and Staff Expert can also be broken into several pieces: each type of weapon.

Cp and power creep are fixed. Note sure how big a deal it is. Mabye someone can stop by with a chart or something.

I thought the last time cp was changed they pretty much put cp on in a vise. Diminishing returns and all. As soon as the lower end of the cp trees are full the creep will slow way down. And like i said its fixed so power creep can only go ao far.

Tasear wrote: »

If you could alter champion system then what would you do?

Aside from never doing it to start with?

If ZOS feels the need to have the mega grind, have it just give you a little more resources for each point to a total of an extra 10% of all three resources at current point cap. They might be able to handle balancing something that simple and I wouldn't have to switch my points every time I go from PVP to PVE.

This from a guy with 1.3k+ points. Just because I have a lot dosen't mean I like them.

Let me spend it in the crown store

I would remove CP cap.

pieratsos wrote: »

Zypheran wrote: »

I'm just shocked at the volume of people that want CP removed or to have it not affect combat. ZOS make small nerfs and the community grabs its pitchforks! Removing CP or taking away combat trees would constitute the biggest nerf ever conceived.
I personally think they really got it right with the CP system. It's one of the best progression systems I have ever seen in any game. Sure it allows more combat power but that's the point. It takes a long time to get to max CP and that should mean something. I have played for years because all that time, I was progressing and becoming more powerful. Take that away and people won't play this game very much after they levelled to 50 or wherever combat progression stops. I think it would have been interesting to ask people how many CP they have as they gave their suggestions. I wonder, given the communities usual intolerance for nerfs, how many 'nerf CP' posts are coming from people at the lower end of the scale and see it as too much of a grind to get to max level?

If you think that completely reworking the system is about nerfing everything to the ground then you are missing the big picture. It's not about nerfing stuff. It's about actually giving the power back to the classes. People don't want more sustain by a stupid boring star that gives u more regen. They want powerful class skills to give them more sustain giving identity and power to the classes. Thats just one example and there is nothing shocking about that.

If the whole point of the CP system was to provide character customization, which it was, then it's implementation was 100% off target. There is nothing fun or customizable about some boring percent amplifications to everything just to make ur numbers bigger which then ends up getting everything nerfed to compensate.

Exactly what this guy is saying. The cp system broke the heart and soul of this game . Along with how one tamriel was implemented. The game is a homogenized waterd down meta chase. I hate to say it but this game has not evolved or emerged at all . It actually went backward in 2017 and 2018. The best way I can describe it is zos has created a two foot deep ocean in all directions.with every dlc or chapter ot just gets bigger not deeper nor dangerous the farther you go.

Tasear wrote: »

If you could alter champion system then what would you do?

Bastian needs fixing post nerfmire!