Please More Bank Space I’m Drowning 😢

Solariken · December 2018

Solution: Grandmaster's Crafting Stations

Deconstructing an item set piece at these tables forever gives you the ability to craft that piece.

So for example, you finally get that elusive Winterborn Ring from vMA but don't plan to use the set for a while, you can go deconstruct it at your Jewelry GCS. You get your inventory space back and can just re-craft the ring in any trait later.

The interface looks just like a normal item set crafting table except with a combo/drop-down box to select the desired item set. One GCS per profession, purchased for 1000 writ vouchers each.

Make it so @ZOS_RichLambert

Sylvermynx · December 2018

Solariken wrote: »

Solution: Grandmaster's Crafting Stations

Deconstructing an item set piece at these tables forever gives you the ability to craft that piece.

So for example, you finally get that elusive Winterborn Ring from vMA but don't plan to use the set for a while, you can go deconstruct it at your Jewelry GCS. You get your inventory space back and can just re-craft the ring in any trait later.

The interface looks just like a normal item set crafting table except with a combo/drop-down box to select the desired item set. One GCS per profession, purchased for 1000 writ vouchers each.

Make it so @ZOS_RichLambert

Oh, I like that idea!

Now, how exactly do you make a "faux" guild so you get 500 bank slots?

Yolokin_Swagonborn · December 2018

Diminish wrote: »

Everyone saying "it's a you problem", and "you're hording", etc. If ZoS didnt release/nerf/change sets like crazy or nerf classes every other week resulting in changing metas it wouldn't be such an issue. Long time players have lots of gold sets, I probably have a good 300 writs, tons of jewelry, etc. Its not a hording issue, it's a game management issue.

Take 2 of my sorcs for example, characters I've played for years, after nerfmire guess what? I had to go out and pick up another 5-10 items because surviveability turned to *** with my previous gear. So what, I should just vendor my 2 previous gold sets, weapons, and jewelry?

You cant keep adding new sets, changing classes around knowing damn well it will result in gear changes, and not increase inventory space to accommodate.

QFT

This is the crux of the problem. ZOS insists on shaking up the meta, nerfing anything successful and placing new, more powerful sets behind grindwalls. All to ostensibly maximize the time people spend (read: waste) in game. Problem is most people love this game and would spend all that time anyway. So ZOS is punishing those people by continually nerfing their gear and forcing them to grind up, when they'd rather keep their existing gear and would play the content they enjoy just as much.

With so many needless set and skill nerfs, you never know what gear you need to keep. Hence the hoarding.

This could also be solved by not making every set that drops from pve content BOE. All DSA and blackrose gearsets (except for the ability-altering weapons) are tradeable. all the other 4man dungeons should have tradeable gear other than the monster helms. All trials should have BOE gear except for the specific trials sets.

That would help the economy and really take a load off of peoples bags.

witchdoctor · December 2018

Tandor wrote: »

There's a big difference between wanting to keep loads of stuff and needing to do so.

The grind for AY daggers would like to have a word with you.

I deconned numerous AY daggers before transmutation.

Now? If there is a chance a set will be made useful, or come 'into fashion' again, I keep a set.

I have yet to have a single AY dagger drop for me again.

I'm not getting caught in this situation again.

Sylvermynx · December 2018

witchdoctor wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

There's a big difference between wanting to keep loads of stuff and needing to do so.

The grind for AY daggers would like to have a word with you.

I deconned numerous AY daggers before transmutation.

Now? If there is a chance a set will be made useful, or come 'into fashion' again, I keep a set.

I have yet to have a single AY dagger drop for me again.

I'm not getting caught in this situation again.

As a confirmed altoholic, I quite agree with you. My bank is always all but full, and I keep saving up for that next 20 slots.... Oh sure, I have enough gold to buy the whole shebang right now, but - you never know what you might need a couple million gold for....

stojekarcub18_ESO · December 2018

It's beyond crazy...I pay for ESO+, I buy all the in game bank and inventory slots, I still have to daily make painful decisions on what I will sell to make space....maybe I'm just weird, I like to collect set pieces, so if I make another alt, I have something to at least start them in when they hit 50.

stojekarcub18_ESO · December 2018

rumple9 wrote: »

Please don't criticise hoarders. Every 3 months the Devs change the meta so you have to horde sets. Otherwise you have to farm it all again when the meta changes

I don't care about meta builds, they come, they go....like you said. I like to save up sets that seem promising...some work, some don't...I shouldn't have to drop one, then next patch have to farm it/upgrade it all over again!!!

stojekarcub18_ESO · December 2018

Matchimus wrote: »

Kiralyn2000 wrote: »

Diminish wrote: »

I probably have a good 300 writs

Its not a hording issue

Hmm.

This left out the key part of the sentence.

Diminish wrote: »

...I probably have a good 300 writs, tons of jewelry, etc. Its not a hording issue, it's a game management issue.

I get what Diminish was saying. I had accumulated a stack of treasure/resource maps. When I got them I would put them in the bank for later because I had other priorities but I wasnt getting back to them. My game management now is they go in a 30 limit chest and when limit is reached I do them. I have to do the same with writs.

I do maps and chests instantly...I am still out of room! I have a problem!!! But a valid one, dangit.

Sylvermynx · December 2018

Right now, all my treasure and survey maps are sitting in my main's inventory - because she's too busy with the current event to go do them. So.... yeah. I've got 15 girls, doing crafting writs on all of them, and running my main on as many of the event quests as possible with the doubled XP (mug plus Gold Coast scrolls) - because if I time it out just right, she'll be really close to 50 when the event is over....

stojekarcub18_ESO · December 2018

Sylvermynx wrote: »

Right now, all my treasure and survey maps are sitting in my main's inventory - because she's too busy with the current event to go do them. So.... yeah. I've got 15 girls, doing crafting writs on all of them, and running my main on as many of the event quests as possible with the doubled XP (mug plus Gold Coast scrolls) - because if I time it out just right, she'll be really close to 50 when the event is over....

That is some devotion. Good luck!!

vesselwiththepestle · December 2018

Please add:
- another 100 bank space (+200 for Eso+)
- another 50 personal inventory space

This would help me a lot.

Or at least some kind of survey report bag and pvp sieges bag. I'd buy them with crowns.

MilwaukeeScott · December 2018

stojekarcub18_ESO wrote: »

I have a problem!!!

I agree

Sylvermynx · December 2018

stojekarcub18_ESO wrote: »

Sylvermynx wrote: »

Right now, all my treasure and survey maps are sitting in my main's inventory - because she's too busy with the current event to go do them. So.... yeah. I've got 15 girls, doing crafting writs on all of them, and running my main on as many of the event quests as possible with the doubled XP (mug plus Gold Coast scrolls) - because if I time it out just right, she'll be really close to 50 when the event is over....

That is some devotion. Good luck!!

Thanks. Heh. It's not necessarily "devotion" - it's that due to satellite (only connect I have available) my lag SUCKS. 2000 ms.... So doing the quest lines that I would prefer to do isn't optimal, because killing the "mini bosses" isn't possible for me due to that lag.

I'm hoping once I get some CP I'll be able to manage some of the story line quests.... I really really want to do the DC quest line on Sha (Redguard, and my main - supposing I have such a thing, since I'm an altoholic....)

Hotdog_23 · December 2018

I have suggested before I wish they would add 1 large (60) and 1 small (30) with each chapter and 1 small (30) with each DLC at a minimum.

Aurayna · December 2018

I would say yes to that and also more inventory space. I also have ESO+ and still struggle with all the storage available.

I don't quite understand all the negative posts here. What does it matter if someone requests more storage space ?

blueThunder24 · December 2018

Zathras wrote: »

Max upgraded bank and mount for storage, plus bag space, on several alts should be more than enough if you choose to go the F2P route.

First of all, this is NOT a f2p game, so you can't say of any f2p route or whatever!

There are a real f2p games that even offer a huge expansions for free, where only a really exclusive cosmetics needs to be payed for. But for those some paywalled amenities are justified.

Second, using alts should never be a main solution for inventory issues.
What if I want to actually play my alts?

ESO+ players already have huge advantage with free access to any dlc, store exclusives and crafting bag. Increasing inventory space for all won't hurt anyone.

Watchdog · December 2018

I would love to see surveys (and perhaps treasure maps too) go to the crafting bag, or perhaps see a special maps bag.

I would also love to see the museum pieces go to quest item inventory, instead of clogging up my bag.

Last but not least, please, give us a furnishings bag, working much like the crafting bag. We are supposed to buy new furniture, but where do we store it? Buying a house solely for the purpose of furniture storage is not a way to go, what if I want to decorate all the houses?

I would still be perfectly happy if all the above was an ESO+ perk.

Tandor · December 2018

Aurayna wrote: »

I would say yes to that and also more inventory space. I also have ESO+ and still struggle with all the storage available.

I don't quite understand all the negative posts here. What does it matter if someone requests more storage space ?

Partly it's simply because some people don't see a need for it, and partly it's because there are always valid performance concerns with increasing data storage - it's a common reason developers restrict storage in the first place. Lastly, it reflects the fact that some people may be clamoring for more storage without having taken advantage of all the storage options the game already offers.

pieratsos · December 2018

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

Stebarnz wrote: »

Agreed more space needed but ZOS don't play this game so they don't know about this issue so it will never happen unless it goes to crown store to get more as that's the only thing they care about.

How you choose to play your characters isn’t anyone else’s problem ... especially not ZOS’s.

Just wanted to recap how much inventory space players actually have without the crafting bag ... since these kinds of threads get somewhat tiring:

- 15 characters with in-game gold or crown purchased bag upgrades (up to 140 each character) = 2,100 slots
- Mount bag space upgrades (15 mounts x 60) = 900 slots
- Personal bank space (with upgrades & ESO+) = 480 slots
- Home storage bins = 360 slots

Total: 3,840

Personal Guild Banks = 500 slots each (up to 2,500); limit of 5 guild banks

If a player doesn't have any personal guild banks, we're still approaching 3,900 inventory slots ... not including the crafting bag or stacked inventory.

So, the first question for any player feeling constricted on inventory ... have you hit 3,840 character and bank slots yet? Even without ESO+ you’d only subtract the double bank space (240 slots).

If you can't manage what you have in that allotment of inventory slots that's your own fault [shrug].

You do realize that you literally proved the point people made right? Yeah you can create mules, fake guild banks, extra houses to drop ur furniture etc. But going through all that trouble, sacrificing guild and character slots, relogging 100 times and going through a million loading screens just for the sake of managing ur inventory is an unessecary hassle that takes time from actually playing and is sucking fun out of the game. And that's for pc players with add-ons to tell them where they can find their items. Not even gonna talk about console players cause it's not even funny.

SugaComa · December 2018

I've always said ever DLC should bring 20 new purchasable upgrades and chapters 50

Purchase in 10 slot incremental buys

Tommy_The_Gun · December 2018

I 100% agree with OP. What the bank needs is simply an "update".

240 slots were fine when we only had base game. Currently with all DLCs & Chapters all crafting materials (all together with motif style materials) require well... something about 236 - 238 slots (That is if you want to keep only top tier crafting materials).
If you want to keep all of them (different tiers of quality, like iron ore, rubedo ore etc.) you will need to have something like 360 slots. Just to keep them ! This basically means that soon (when new DLC or chapter with new style materials will show up) regular players will be punished for not using ESO+ instead of ESO+ players being rewarded for doing so.

Simple solution: move the bank cap space further (240 -> 300 etc.) ESO+ gets double bank space anyway so it is a win-win scenario.

Other solution: The same way as we have housing storage chests, introduce something like "supply crate" (Example: woodworking supply crate, blacksmithing supply crate etc.)
"Supply crate" could be a new furnishing "containers" that would allow to keep 1 stack of every crafting item of all tiers and those items would be visible by crafting stations. Those crates could be available by either crafting vouchers, Tel-Var stones or crowns.

Juju_beans · December 2018

vesselwiththepestle wrote: »

Please add:
- another 100 bank space (+200 for Eso+)
- another 50 personal inventory space

This would help me a lot.

Or at least some kind of survey report bag and pvp sieges bag. I'd buy them with crowns.

But only for a while. Hoarders tend to hoard. Given more space you'd have that full up in no time and looking for more space.

jwjackson5674 · December 2018

Diminish wrote: »

Everyone saying "it's a you problem", and "you're hording", etc.
I probably have a good 300 writs.....Its not a hording issue, it's a game management issue.

This is the very definition of hoarding. Use those writs up....get 300 spots for other stuff.

Barnicle · December 2018

The rubbish will expand to fill the space provided

vesselwiththepestle · December 2018

Juju_beans wrote: »

But only for a while. Hoarders tend to hoard. Given more space you'd have that full up in no time and looking for more space.

With that argument we could run around with 50 inventory slots and 100 bank space. There is no objective limit when "hoarding" begins. Why should the current amount of inventory slots and bank space the optimal amount? And furthermore, what is bad about hoarding? If a player wants to hoard, let him. Furthermore, keep in mind that many players switch out different item sets. That is not actually hoarding. It's like a tank, who can switch out Alkosh for Plague Doctor, a Healer who can switch between Worm's Cult Raiments, Olorime, Jorvuld's Guidance and maybe some other set and combine them freely, not to mention Master staves, Monster sets etc.

Also you should be able to have 100 free inventory at all time, so you don't have to run to the next merchant every second dungeon!

My main needs six sets for pve + pvp alone, then additional sets for special content, like VO for vma etc. Should I deconstruct every golden set instantly I replace it? When I switched my magblade to Siroria + Spell Strategist, should I have deconstruct my golden Mother's Sorrow jewelry and flame staff just so I would not be "hoarding"??

But it shouldn't matter if you can name a good reason for every single item in your bank or if you are just hoarding and want to be botheres as less as possible with inventory management!

When I changed to Eso Plus, the crafting bag and the doubles bank space was such HUGE release and such improved gaming experience - just because I didn't have to run to the next town every 15 minutes I was farming a Public Dungeon! With my Eso Plus Crowns the first things I bought were banker + merchant, so I could stay longer in dungeons etc. doing and PLAYING content instead of walking back and play "inventory management simulator".

I don't want to hoard, I just want to play hours and hours without having to bother about the inventory, ofc that wouldn't be possible with another 50 inventory slots, neither, but I guess you have to keep your wishes low and realistic and everything helping me to play another minute without turning on the merchant HELPS. Additionally I regular play with friends who don't sub to Eso+ and it's just plainly ANNOYING I have to wait so much for their inventory management after every single dungeon, one is even trying to get into crafting without Eso Plus and he has to switch so much between his characters because he actually still needs all those crafting trash you loot in barrels etc. but he can't collect it on his character playing because 200 inventory slots aren't enough.

More specialized bags like the already existing crafting bag would be a good compromise. But it should be able to get without Eso Plus. If you are mostly into PVP I don't think there is a reason to get Eso Plus right now, anyway.

TheShadowScout · December 2018

XxMissAlycexX wrote: »

I think it has come to a point in the game where the citizens of Tamriel require more bank space to store their treasures...

...which is why they added those extra space benefits to ESO+ members, and sell homestead containers in the crown store!

That aside, we -really- have an ample amout of space I'd say, all things considered.

The three improvements I would want...

...for one, remove all "disguise" items when their matching quest is concluded, and replace them with costume unlocks of the same visuals. Just like with the "Scarled Judge". -Exactly- like that!

...for another, let us deconstruct all that "stealable clothing" for a chance of learning the visuals for the outfit system. Make it a chance, so people might need more then one try, but in the end, let us have those "common civilian" looks and not need to lug the stuff around.

...and finally... allow small "circle of friends" guilds to unlock their bank permanently with crowns rather then inviting random strangers and loosing their bank if some quit.

Merlin13KAGL · December 2018

thatlaurachick wrote: »

For those asking about furniture storage, it's call a "storage home." Only needs about 400 slots, not that expensive. Frees up chests for more stuff.

That would work if the items didn't need immediate placement. Unplaced furnishings should be able to go into 'housing storage' in the meantime.

It's not as beneficial when the house ends up looking like a storge shed after a midnight move. It trades inventory mgmt time for poorly placed items via housing editor time.

Space is the forefront. The ultimate issue comes down to (lost) time, whether via IM, regrind, decon, or guild buy.

Cladius30 · December 2018

just sell stuff

Merlin13KAGL · December 2018

In theory, you could share gear among alts, so why, unless there's a trait/enchant difference, are you required to have multiple copies of the same things?

I propose that once you've grinded a full copy of a set (7 pc + jewelry) in desired trait, that set becomes 'unlocked' for all characters to use.

It's effectively no different than swapping via bank to alts.

That would cut inventory needs by up to a factor of 8 or more & you'd never have to regrind when ZoS changes the phase of the moon each patch/DLC.

Diminish · December 2018

Kiralyn2000 wrote: »

Diminish wrote: »

I probably have a good 300 writs

Its not a hording issue

Hmm.

So what, I should not do daily crafting writs? Then if I do, I should just destroy master writs because if not it's hording? Or do you suggest that I should sell them in a guild trader that limits me to 30 items in a market already flooded with master writs?

I'll do them eventually, and could always use the writ vouchers. However, I don't log on with the intention to port around Tamriel, going in and out of Cyrodiil, etc. for 7 hours straight crafting items and dealing with 4 minute load screens. Especially when you can only do one at a time, and then have to go turn it in. So, again, no its not a hording issue.