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Snipe From 40 Meters Shouldn't Stun
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Sharee✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭My lv 10 sniper in BG. Pure snipe spam. Literally every match ends like that.
At level 10 the game will put you in matches with opponents who have no idea how to pvp. I mean, look at the K/D of pretty much everyone else. One kill, two assists, ten deaths...
I'm pretty sure you could use this scenario to prove how spamming anything is overpowered - including light attacks.4 -
Betty_Booms✭✭✭Well. Hey guys. Im not proud of it but once upon a time I overload ganked. Yep I was a dirty dirty mag sorc.
But some interesting facts. I did this from sneak and could not return to stealth. I usually died once i was discovered. Annnnddd.
Overload was fixed....changed for the better I might add. I have gotten much better at the game and have had so much fun learning the depth of my class.
I have to really think about positioning. Alining my streaks with safe places to los. Spec nore for utility such as slows. Hell I even give healing a wack in BGs. Yep a mag sorc healer. Quite affective with a frost staff.
I almost fell over when a sniper told someone to L2P in this thread.
But you are always going to get people whi are resistant to change. People who wont explore other options and stay with their familiar rotation.
Now snipe is far worse then OL in the hands of a NB.
It should be balanced. Maybe like rune cage there should be a short animation to give us a chance to block or dodge. I can NEVER hear a snipe coming...i am generally dead from 2 before I even know whats happened...
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Juhasow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭My lv 10 sniper in BG. Pure snipe spam. Literally every match ends like that.
At level 10 the game will put you in matches with opponents who have no idea how to pvp. I mean, look at the K/D of pretty much everyone else. One kill, two assists, ten deaths...
I'm pretty sure you could use this scenario to prove how spamming anything is overpowered - including light attacks.
I actually expected response like that but unfortunetely for You people in many of that matches I had actually knew what to do and I could tell they were also geared up. KD ratio is weak for most of the people because they were just unable to do anything against me and yes many of them were weaklings but even those people who werent couldnt do much agaisnt mayhem I was causing and many times matches was too fast for them to get decent scores. You can see similar KD ratios is high MMR matches where 1 team is just dominating anothers. I dont think or even more I am certain that brainless spam of any other attack even in low lv BGs would bring You close to scores like that especially when You consider the fact You can start doing that since lv 10.
I also went to Sotha Sil where I was able to easily harass/kill or be very problematic to deal with , for max CP players with my 10k+ snipes. Max snipe I had in Sotha Sil was 13k in Vivec it could be more. Here is the example of snipes from sotha Sil when my character was not fully prepared yet and I just went there for few minutes to check things out
Edited by Juhasow on December 21, 2018 9:51PM1 -
Sharee✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I actually expected response like that but unfortunetely for You people in many of that matches I had actually knew what to do and I could tell they were also geared up. KD ratio is weak for most of the people because they were just unable to do anything against me and...
Against *you*? You weren't the only target in there. They were unable to do anything against anyone! I mean, look at it. A team of four, and three of them only get a single kill each during the whole match?
Geared up and knew what to do my behind. You were murdering newbies.4 -
Malacthulhu✭✭✭✭It should have a conditional where it only stuns from the coward range.Edited by Malacthulhu on December 22, 2018 12:14AMXbox One Na0 -
Thogard✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Betty_Booms wrote: »Well. Hey guys. Im not proud of it but once upon a time I overload ganked. Yep I was a dirty dirty mag sorc.
But some interesting facts. I did this from sneak and could not return to stealth. I usually died once i was discovered. Annnnddd.
Overload was fixed....changed for the better I might add. I have gotten much better at the game and have had so much fun learning the depth of my class.
I have to really think about positioning. Alining my streaks with safe places to los. Spec nore for utility such as slows. Hell I even give healing a wack in BGs. Yep a mag sorc healer. Quite affective with a frost staff.
I almost fell over when a sniper told someone to L2P in this thread.
But you are always going to get people whi are resistant to change. People who wont explore other options and stay with their familiar rotation.
Now snipe is far worse then OL in the hands of a NB.
It should be balanced. Maybe like rune cage there should be a short animation to give us a chance to block or dodge. I can NEVER hear a snipe coming...i am generally dead from 2 before I even know whats happened...
Betty broomstick overload ganks were terrifying because you were so much harder to kill than a bowtard.PC NA - @dazkt - Dazk Ardoonkt / Sir Thogalot / Dask Dragoh’t / Dazk Dragoh’t / El Thogardo
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pod88kk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭dwemer_paleologist wrote: »stop trying to destroy snipe
stop trying to destroy our ranged playstyle every single day making request threads to destroy archer playstyle.
nothing wrong with what we have, its been here since 5+ years.
this is really childish and selfish.
All I hear is I'm not good enough to play anything other than a 2 button build4 -
TequilaFire✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭dwemer_paleologist wrote: »stop trying to destroy snipe
stop trying to destroy our ranged playstyle every single day making request threads to destroy archer playstyle.
nothing wrong with what we have, its been here since 5+ years.
this is really childish and selfish.
All I hear is I'm not good enough to play anything other than a 2 button build
And you can't handle a 2 button build?
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Juhasow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I actually expected response like that but unfortunetely for You people in many of that matches I had actually knew what to do and I could tell they were also geared up. KD ratio is weak for most of the people because they were just unable to do anything against me and...
Against *you*? You weren't the only target in there. They were unable to do anything against anyone! I mean, look at it. A team of four, and three of them only get a single kill each during the whole match?
Geared up and knew what to do my behind. You were murdering newbies.
Yes against me. I couldnt even be the target since I was always 30+ meters away from combat safely spamming snipe from distance and cloaking away if noticed. Well maybe those people got that small amount of kills because some sniper was two shotting them at their respawn ?... So I was also murdering newbies in Sotha Sil ? I was lv 10 no heals no back bar not even stun unlocked yet and I could smack geared up people in Sotha Sil by spamming 10k+ crit snipe on their faces and if they werent DKs they couldnt do much about it they were literally screwed. Say what You want You wont find arguments that will disprove fact that snipe spamming is broken and can be that way since early levels.Edited by Juhasow on December 22, 2018 9:04AM1 -
Sharee✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I actually expected response like that but unfortunetely for You people in many of that matches I had actually knew what to do and I could tell they were also geared up. KD ratio is weak for most of the people because they were just unable to do anything against me and...
Against *you*? You weren't the only target in there. They were unable to do anything against anyone! I mean, look at it. A team of four, and three of them only get a single kill each during the whole match?
Geared up and knew what to do my behind. You were murdering newbies.
Yes against me. Well maybe those people got that small amount of kills because some sniper was one shotting them at their respawn ?...
So not only were you killing total newbies, you were spawn camping them, making sure all your targets were clueless all the time, and you never had to face an opponent who actually knew how to handle a sniper. And then you try to interpret the result as "look how overpowered snipe is".
Right.3 -
Juhasow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I actually expected response like that but unfortunetely for You people in many of that matches I had actually knew what to do and I could tell they were also geared up. KD ratio is weak for most of the people because they were just unable to do anything against me and...
Against *you*? You weren't the only target in there. They were unable to do anything against anyone! I mean, look at it. A team of four, and three of them only get a single kill each during the whole match?
Geared up and knew what to do my behind. You were murdering newbies.
Yes against me. Well maybe those people got that small amount of kills because some sniper was one shotting them at their respawn ?...
So not only were you killing total newbies, you were spawn camping them, making sure all your targets were clueless all the time, and you never had to face an opponent who actually knew how to handle a sniper. And then you try to interpret the result as "look how overpowered snipe is".
Right.
Get real. I know better who I was killing and You are just creating bunch of assumptions to cover simple fact snipe is broken. If anyone tries to interpretate something it's You interpretating my screen shots througout last few posts adding context to them and making lot of assumptions just so it will match to Your theories. If You think It's that easy to get that amount of kills on "total newbiers " in low lv battlegrounds one match after another on any build even with pure light attack spam then prove it otherwise You bring nothing to discussion just empty words ( not the 1st time btw ). Go there on lv 10 non sniper character and show me Your KD ratios from deathmatches especially with that mentioned earlier light attack spam and then we can talk.Edited by Juhasow on December 22, 2018 9:30AM3 -
Sharee✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I actually expected response like that but unfortunetely for You people in many of that matches I had actually knew what to do and I could tell they were also geared up. KD ratio is weak for most of the people because they were just unable to do anything against me and...
Against *you*? You weren't the only target in there. They were unable to do anything against anyone! I mean, look at it. A team of four, and three of them only get a single kill each during the whole match?
Geared up and knew what to do my behind. You were murdering newbies.
Yes against me. Well maybe those people got that small amount of kills because some sniper was one shotting them at their respawn ?...
So not only were you killing total newbies, you were spawn camping them, making sure all your targets were clueless all the time, and you never had to face an opponent who actually knew how to handle a sniper. And then you try to interpret the result as "look how overpowered snipe is".
Right.
Get real. I know better who I was killing and You are just creating bunch of assumptions ...
"I was fighting people who were geared and knew what to do"
"I was oneshotting them at their spawn"
Those are not my assumptions, those are your quotes.
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Juhasow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I actually expected response like that but unfortunetely for You people in many of that matches I had actually knew what to do and I could tell they were also geared up. KD ratio is weak for most of the people because they were just unable to do anything against me and...
Against *you*? You weren't the only target in there. They were unable to do anything against anyone! I mean, look at it. A team of four, and three of them only get a single kill each during the whole match?
Geared up and knew what to do my behind. You were murdering newbies.
Yes against me. Well maybe those people got that small amount of kills because some sniper was one shotting them at their respawn ?...
So not only were you killing total newbies, you were spawn camping them, making sure all your targets were clueless all the time, and you never had to face an opponent who actually knew how to handle a sniper. And then you try to interpret the result as "look how overpowered snipe is".
Right.
Get real. I know better who I was killing and You are just creating bunch of assumptions ...
"I was fighting people who were geared and knew what to do"
"I was oneshotting them at their spawn"
Those are not my assumptions, those are your quotes.
Never said I was. Also no those are not my questoes my quote is "well maybe those people got that small amount of kills because some sniper was one shotting them at their respawn ?" which is pretty much different from what You're implying I said but I guess You love to twist other peoples words for Your own benefit. That was just example proving there are ways that people will get low KD ratios in BG. There are other examples like that but for some reason You've chose the one matching Your theories the most even if You'll have to fartetch it slightly. Even in high MMR matches it happends that ppl get 1 or 0 kills while having 5+ deaths so Your conspiracy theory is kinda silly. Also reread previous post.Edited by Juhasow on December 22, 2018 9:39AM1 -
Sharee✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I actually expected response like that but unfortunetely for You people in many of that matches I had actually knew what to do and I could tell they were also geared up. KD ratio is weak for most of the people because they were just unable to do anything against me and...
Against *you*? You weren't the only target in there. They were unable to do anything against anyone! I mean, look at it. A team of four, and three of them only get a single kill each during the whole match?
Geared up and knew what to do my behind. You were murdering newbies.
Yes against me. Well maybe those people got that small amount of kills because some sniper was one shotting them at their respawn ?...
So not only were you killing total newbies, you were spawn camping them, making sure all your targets were clueless all the time, and you never had to face an opponent who actually knew how to handle a sniper. And then you try to interpret the result as "look how overpowered snipe is".
Right.
Get real. I know better who I was killing and You are just creating bunch of assumptions ...
"I was fighting people who were geared and knew what to do"
"I was oneshotting them at their spawn"
Those are not my assumptions, those are your quotes.
Never said I was. That was just example proving there are ways that people will get low KD ratios in BG. Never said I was farming them at their spawn.
"maybe those people got that small amount of kills because some sniper was one shotting them at their respawn ?"
Me: "you were fighting newbies"
You: "no, they have low kills because some sniper was one shotting them at respawn"
Me: "...and that means they were not newbies?"
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Juhasow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I actually expected response like that but unfortunetely for You people in many of that matches I had actually knew what to do and I could tell they were also geared up. KD ratio is weak for most of the people because they were just unable to do anything against me and...
Against *you*? You weren't the only target in there. They were unable to do anything against anyone! I mean, look at it. A team of four, and three of them only get a single kill each during the whole match?
Geared up and knew what to do my behind. You were murdering newbies.
Yes against me. Well maybe those people got that small amount of kills because some sniper was one shotting them at their respawn ?...
So not only were you killing total newbies, you were spawn camping them, making sure all your targets were clueless all the time, and you never had to face an opponent who actually knew how to handle a sniper. And then you try to interpret the result as "look how overpowered snipe is".
Right.
Get real. I know better who I was killing and You are just creating bunch of assumptions ...
"I was fighting people who were geared and knew what to do"
"I was oneshotting them at their spawn"
Those are not my assumptions, those are your quotes.
Never said I was. That was just example proving there are ways that people will get low KD ratios in BG. Never said I was farming them at their spawn.
"maybe those people got that small amount of kills because some sniper was one shotting them at their respawn ?"
Me: "you were fighting newbies"
You: "no, they have low kills because some sniper was one shotting them at respawn"
Me: "...and that means they were not newbies?"
Reread previous posts. Also as i mentioned in one above prove me that You can get similar KD ratios in low lv BGs with light attacks on lv 10 or we have nothing to talk about. It's one thing low lv BGs have lower average skill of players but totally different that nothing else will bring You to KD ratios like that on lv 10 character.Edited by Juhasow on December 22, 2018 9:43AM1 -
Juhasow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I actually expected response like that but unfortunetely for You people in many of that matches I had actually knew what to do and I could tell they were also geared up. KD ratio is weak for most of the people because they were just unable to do anything against me and...
Against *you*? You weren't the only target in there. They were unable to do anything against anyone! I mean, look at it. A team of four, and three of them only get a single kill each during the whole match?
Geared up and knew what to do my behind. You were murdering newbies.
Yes against me. Well maybe those people got that small amount of kills because some sniper was one shotting them at their respawn ?...
So not only were you killing total newbies, you were spawn camping them, making sure all your targets were clueless all the time, and you never had to face an opponent who actually knew how to handle a sniper. And then you try to interpret the result as "look how overpowered snipe is".
Right.
Get real. I know better who I was killing and You are just creating bunch of assumptions ...
"I was fighting people who were geared and knew what to do"
"I was oneshotting them at their spawn"
Those are not my assumptions, those are your quotes.
Never said I was. That was just example proving there are ways that people will get low KD ratios in BG. Never said I was farming them at their spawn.
"maybe those people got that small amount of kills because some sniper was one shotting them at their respawn ?"
Me: "you were fighting newbies"
You: "no, they have low kills because some sniper was one shotting them at respawn"
Me: "...and that means they were not newbies?"
I love how You replace my "maybe" suggesting it's just theory with "no... because..." suggesting it's my opinion and statement so it'll work better to Your narration. Or how You replace my "someone" with "I was". You're so delusional manipulator it's funny.Edited by Juhasow on December 22, 2018 9:48AM1 -
Sharee✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I actually expected response like that but unfortunetely for You people in many of that matches I had actually knew what to do and I could tell they were also geared up. KD ratio is weak for most of the people because they were just unable to do anything against me and...
Against *you*? You weren't the only target in there. They were unable to do anything against anyone! I mean, look at it. A team of four, and three of them only get a single kill each during the whole match?
Geared up and knew what to do my behind. You were murdering newbies.
Yes against me. Well maybe those people got that small amount of kills because some sniper was one shotting them at their respawn ?...
So not only were you killing total newbies, you were spawn camping them, making sure all your targets were clueless all the time, and you never had to face an opponent who actually knew how to handle a sniper. And then you try to interpret the result as "look how overpowered snipe is".
Right.
Get real. I know better who I was killing and You are just creating bunch of assumptions ...
"I was fighting people who were geared and knew what to do"
"I was oneshotting them at their spawn"
Those are not my assumptions, those are your quotes.
Never said I was. That was just example proving there are ways that people will get low KD ratios in BG. Never said I was farming them at their spawn.
"maybe those people got that small amount of kills because some sniper was one shotting them at their respawn ?"
Me: "you were fighting newbies"
You: "no, they have low kills because some sniper was one shotting them at respawn"
Me: "...and that means they were not newbies?"
reread previous posts.
I read your previous posts just fine. You take an experienced player, gear him up to abuse the heck out of the low-level scaling he gets at level 10, enter battleground at level 10 where the game matches you with the lowest of the low(because where else would it put them?), then go to kill undergeared players who have absolutely no clue what to do, to the point that they get farmed at their spawn. Jesus.
And then come here, using the above to try and demonstrate how snipe is overpowered. Dude. Just stop.2 -
Juhasow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I actually expected response like that but unfortunetely for You people in many of that matches I had actually knew what to do and I could tell they were also geared up. KD ratio is weak for most of the people because they were just unable to do anything against me and...
Against *you*? You weren't the only target in there. They were unable to do anything against anyone! I mean, look at it. A team of four, and three of them only get a single kill each during the whole match?
Geared up and knew what to do my behind. You were murdering newbies.
Yes against me. Well maybe those people got that small amount of kills because some sniper was one shotting them at their respawn ?...
So not only were you killing total newbies, you were spawn camping them, making sure all your targets were clueless all the time, and you never had to face an opponent who actually knew how to handle a sniper. And then you try to interpret the result as "look how overpowered snipe is".
Right.
Get real. I know better who I was killing and You are just creating bunch of assumptions ...
"I was fighting people who were geared and knew what to do"
"I was oneshotting them at their spawn"
Those are not my assumptions, those are your quotes.
Never said I was. That was just example proving there are ways that people will get low KD ratios in BG. Never said I was farming them at their spawn.
"maybe those people got that small amount of kills because some sniper was one shotting them at their respawn ?"
Me: "you were fighting newbies"
You: "no, they have low kills because some sniper was one shotting them at respawn"
Me: "...and that means they were not newbies?"
reread previous posts.
I read your previous posts just fine. You take an experienced player, gear him up to abuse the heck out of the low-level scaling he gets at level 10, enter battleground at level 10 where the game matches you with the lowest of the low(because where else would it put them?), then go to kill undergeared players who have absolutely no clue what to do, to the point that they get farmed at their spawn. Jesus.
And then come here, using the above to try and demonstrate how snipe is overpowered. Dude. Just stop.
Again bunch of assumptions. Not all of them were undergeared I was not even fully geared some of them were having PvP ranks 13+ even 19+ which means they were farming BGs so yeah definietly they had completly zero idea what to do in PvP. Lot of them were actualluy geared which it's very easy to tell in low lv PvP. Few of them were actually ppl playing on alts same as me and they were high CP players under that. I would say amount of total noob vs peoeple who knew more or less about the game was 50/50 so yeah keep beliving Your vision. Sorry to tell You that but world in Your head will not always match world outside of it. Also Like I already said 2 times , prove me that anything else then snipe spam will give You similar KD rations on lv 10 character or even on any level character. If You wont and we both know You wont then just stop.
Like seriously if I wouldnt tell that this was low lv BG then I am 100% sure You would say "definietly low MMR with some new players that got lv 50 few days earlier" and if that wouldnt be true You would try to come up with something else endlesly just to avoid simple fact that snipe is in fact overperforming but based on Your history on that forum I am not suprised You seem to think different.Edited by Juhasow on December 22, 2018 10:05AM1 -
Sharee✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Again bunch of assumptions. Not all of them were undergeared I was not even fully geared some of them were having PvP ranks 13+ even 19+ which means they were farming BGs so yeah definietly they had completly zero idea what to do in PvP.
Yea. For example, there is a guy in there who has 12 kills to one death.
But you obviously weren't killing that one with your snipe spam(since he has got one death). Your high kill count came from targeting the newbies, not the veterans.Edited by Sharee on December 22, 2018 10:26AM3 -
JobooAGS✭✭✭✭✭
✭LOL both sides are screaming "l2p"
*In Shaxx's voice*
I LOVE IT!
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Juhasow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Again bunch of assumptions. Not all of them were undergeared I was not even fully geared some of them were having PvP ranks 13+ even 19+ which means they were farming BGs so yeah definietly they had completly zero idea what to do in PvP.
Yea. For example, there is a guy in there who has 12 kills to one death.
But you obviously weren't killing that one with your snipe spam(since he has got one death). Your high kill count came from targeting the newbies, not the veterans.
Have You graduated math in ground school ? I mean You do realize there is 34 kills limit in deathmatch and I have 8 potential people to kill ? There will be always someone with more or less deaths it's almost impossible to get equal amount of kills on everyone. Also he could be a dk with wings which is like the only counter for snipe spam or he could be other nightblade so I couldnt kill what I couldnt see and on lv 10 I do not have effective sources of reveal. But ofc like always You know better what happened and have theory already prepared... Your conspiracy theories starts to be silly.
Also I dont know why You're still talking instead of creating evidence other builds can achieve the same at lv 10 with just 2 abilities in effective use. Fact that I can be stronger at lv 10 with just 2 abilities then other people at higher levels even if they're geared and skilled with full set of abilities speaks for itself and You cannot disprove it no matter how hard You'll try.Edited by Juhasow on December 22, 2018 7:25PM1 -
Sharee✭✭✭✭✭
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Also I dont know why You're still talking instead of creating evidence other builds can achieve the same at lv 10 with just 2 abilities in effective use. Fact that I can be stronger at lv 10 with just 2 abilities then other people at higher levels even if they're geared and skilled with full set of abilities speaks for itself and You cannot disprove it no matter how hard You'll try.
Let me get this straight.
You want me to buy a new character slot, and then waste time leveling and gearing a new character just to prove that newbies in low level battlegrounds can be easily farmed by a well-equipped, high-CP twink?
(what's next? Proving that the pope is a catholic?)
I have a better idea. You want snipe nerfed, how abou *you* demonstrate it actually needs nerfing by overperforming in a real battleground, and not the kindergarten version. Show me those 26 kills and one death after facing a premade. Then we'll talk.2 -
TequilaFire✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭After playing the game for 5 years I can hold my own on a well geared battle leveled lvl 10 as well using about any skill.
Proves nothing about snipe being more OP than other skills.4 -
Betty_Booms✭✭✭
Also I dont know why You're still talking instead of creating evidence other builds can achieve the same at lv 10 with just 2 abilities in effective use. Fact that I can be stronger at lv 10 with just 2 abilities then other people at higher levels even if they're geared and skilled with full set of abilities speaks for itself and You cannot disprove it no matter how hard You'll try.
Let me get this straight.
You want me to buy a new character slot, and then waste time leveling and gearing a new character just to prove that newbies in low level battlegrounds can be easily farmed by a well-equipped, high-CP twink?
(what's next? Proving that the pope is a catholic?)
I have a better idea. You want snipe nerfed, how abou *you* demonstrate it actually needs nerfing by overperforming in a real battleground, and not the kindergarten version. Show me those 26 kills and one death after facing a premade. Then we'll talk.
Actually. There are snipers that do quite well, even againts good premades. Their team may not win but they will always have high Kill and low deaths. There truley is nothing to prove to me as I have witnessed this time and time again. A vague noise before you die each time to desync is not counterplay. Even if you survive it isnt for long, having low health with defile etc.
Ive been on both sides of the fence. I had lots of fun ganking but boy its frustrating when you have no way of countering something.
But I agree that the level 10 BG isnt a great argument either.0 -
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Also I dont know why You're still talking instead of creating evidence other builds can achieve the same at lv 10 with just 2 abilities in effective use. Fact that I can be stronger at lv 10 with just 2 abilities then other people at higher levels even if they're geared and skilled with full set of abilities speaks for itself and You cannot disprove it no matter how hard You'll try.
Let me get this straight.
You want me to buy a new character slot, and then waste time leveling and gearing a new character just to prove that newbies in low level battlegrounds can be easily farmed by a well-equipped, high-CP twink?
(what's next? Proving that the pope is a catholic?)
I have a better idea. You want snipe nerfed, how abou *you* demonstrate it actually needs nerfing by overperforming in a real battleground, and not the kindergarten version. Show me those 26 kills and one death after facing a premade. Then we'll talk.
Actually. There are snipers that do quite well, even againts good premades. Their team may not win but they will always have high Kill and low deaths. There truley is nothing to prove to me as I have witnessed this time and time again. A vague noise before you die each time to desync is not counterplay. Even if you survive it isnt for long, having low health with defile etc.
Ive been on both sides of the fence. I had lots of fun ganking but boy its frustrating when you have no way of countering something.
But I agree that the level 10 BG isnt a great argument either.
You get no argument from me that desyncs/getting hit by multiple snipes at once and instantly dying is BS and needs to be fixed.2 -
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Also I dont know why You're still talking instead of creating evidence other builds can achieve the same at lv 10 with just 2 abilities in effective use. Fact that I can be stronger at lv 10 with just 2 abilities then other people at higher levels even if they're geared and skilled with full set of abilities speaks for itself and You cannot disprove it no matter how hard You'll try.
Let me get this straight.
You want me to buy a new character slot, and then waste time leveling and gearing a new character just to prove that newbies in low level battlegrounds can be easily farmed by a well-equipped, high-CP twink?
(what's next? Proving that the pope is a catholic?)
I have a better idea. You want snipe nerfed, how abou *you* demonstrate it actually needs nerfing by overperforming in a real battleground, and not the kindergarten version. Show me those 26 kills and one death after facing a premade. Then we'll talk.
Let me get this straight.
You are making claims based just on Your imagination without any proofs ?
I made my claim clear , with lv 10 character and snipe+cloak on bar without any heals and barely any passives You can up to certain extent do better then prepared characters with full set af abilities and You can even kill people with similar level of skill which You try to disprove by Your imaginary theories but still it's just Your imagination and assumptions. Fact what You can do with snipe so early on not only on low lv BGs but in open world PvP in both CP and non CP suggest that something may be not ok with this ability. You just preffer to belive things like that may only happen in low lv BG but it's not true , low lv BG just present small hint at the larger issue where You want to make it one and only issue and belive that by disproving it You'll disprove fact that snipe overperforms.
Yeah lol so for You the monent when 1 ability brainlesly spammed starts to overperform is when You are destroying whole premade in BG match with it ? That alteast explains why You think that most of the cheese in the game is ok...0