Snipe is a sick joke

nuttytom · December 2018

Do I really have to explain?

Kidgangster101 · December 2018

LOLOL yep that's what I say whenever I look at my death recap in pvp......

But the people that cheese it will never tell you it is too powerful lol. In fact they probably want the cast time removed and not lose any damage either lolol

russelmmendoza · December 2018

Yes please explain.

Bhaal5 · December 2018

All snipe needs is something like streak, cast this action in a span of 10 seconds, cost is doubled and the initial cost needs to be raised.
Problem solved

frostz417 · December 2018

Watch out, you’ll trigger the forumblades who will defend their snipe spammer playstyle to the death saying nonsense like “hurrr durrr slot purge and block”

joseayalac · December 2018

I think that what's broken is the fact that NBs can make Snipe crit EVERY time, this is stupid.

But on other classes it seems balanced and a cool skills that actually feels necessary for the game.

AcadianPaladin · December 2018

Well, explaining that you are undoubtedly talking about PvP would help of course. Snipe is a perfectly fine PvE skill that is currently in a pretty good place - for PvE. You can't kill a boss with it and after one snipe the boss is in your face so snipe is not overpowered in PvE.

Perhaps trying (and failing) to balance PvE and PvP together is the problem. Consider snipe, heavy armor, crowd control, impenetrable. . . PvE and PvP really are differing games requiring differing characters. *sigh* I just wish the devs did not seem intent on ensuring the potential for animosity between the PvE and PvP communities.

Androconium · December 2018

Hurr durrr snot purge and block

Lyserus · December 2018

I am not crazy! I know he used snipe. I knew it was unbalanced. Crowdly, cheap, skill.

As if I could ever get killed. Never. Never! I just - I just couldn't prove it. He covered his tracks, he got that idiot in my alliance to lure me into the trap.

You think this is something? You think this is bad? This? This chicanery? He's done worse. That proc set! Are you telling me that I just happened to die like that? No! *He* orchestrated it! Jimmy! He *defecated* through a *Zaan*!

And I spared him! And I shouldn't have. I took him into my own guild! What was I *thinking*? He'll never change. He'll *never* change!

Ever since he was 9, *always* the same! Couldn't keep his hands out of the broken meta! But not our Jimmy! Couldn't be precious *Jimmy*! killing them blind! And *HE* gets to be a pro gamer? What a sick joke! I should've stopped him when I had the chance!

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Colecovision · December 2018

As a heads up, I doubt I'm the only one that doesn't want to bother to learn pvp, but does want crystals. So I just slot the skills with the most forum qq and head on out. Snipe sucks in pve and I wouldn't have bothered. So thank you for your assistance.

technohic · December 2018

Just make casts pull the caster out of stealth when started. They are high damage reward for the risk of the cast time so they shouldn't have the risk removed by being invisible and should not get any stealth bonus.

I could have gotten more kills tonight myself on my NB had I slotted snipe. Chose not to but it's clear why I probably would if I want those kills.

FrancisCrawford · December 2018

technohic wrote: »

I could have gotten more kills tonight myself on my NB had I slotted snipe. Chose not to but it's clear why I probably would if I want those kills.

You're sooooo honorable!!!

jrgray93 · December 2018

The problem I have with it is the people using it hide until you're fighting other enemies, then they spam it from a distance and you sometimes don't even know until you're dead.

Basically, it's just a coward's tool. I'm not sure what you could do to change that without fundamentally changing the ability and eliminating the play style. The ability is useless outside of this obnoxious tactic and solo PvE for "fun."

Thogard · December 2018

Lower the dmg of snipe but make it a guaranteed critical hit. The non cloaked peoples will see a slight dmg increase but the NBs using cloak to force crits will see a dmg decrease.

max_only · December 2018

frostz417 wrote: »

Watch out, you’ll trigger the forumblades who will defend their snipe spammer playstyle to the death saying nonsense like “hurrr durrr slot purge and block”

What bro, you don’t have that “dodge now” addon? Hurr hurr git gud

In all seriousness though, dodge the sound if you can. If you can’t beat em, join em.

Aliyavana · December 2018

A 40 meter ability shouldnt do as much damage as dizzying swing

teladoy · December 2018

I have a sniper and is glass cannon. Many of the times my shots will be evaded or absorbed, but if I get to hit you, then is gonna hurt like hell. You just need to turn on me to kill me, but if you don't then you have a l2p issue.

Mureel · December 2018

Lyserus wrote: »

I am not crazy! I know he used snipe. I knew it was unbalanced. Crowdly, cheap, skill.

As if I could ever get killed. Never. Never! I just - I just couldn't prove it. He covered his tracks, he got that idiot in my alliance to lure me into the trap.

You think this is something? You think this is bad? This? This chicanery? He's done worse. That proc set! Are you telling me that I just happened to die like that? No! *He* orchestrated it! Jimmy! He *defecated* through a *Zaan*!

And I spared him! And I shouldn't have. I took him into my own guild! What was I *thinking*? He'll never change. He'll *never* change!

Ever since he was 9, *always* the same! Couldn't keep his hands out of the broken meta! But not our Jimmy! Couldn't be precious *Jimmy*! killing them blind! And *HE* gets to be a pro gamer? What a sick joke! I should've stopped him when I had the chance!

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Wtf? This whole post is idk what this whole post is.... *backs out of nerf snipe thread very slowly*

Aliyavana · December 2018

teladoy wrote: »

I have a sniper and is glass cannon. Many of the times my shots will be evaded or absorbed, but if I get to hit you, then is gonna hurt like hell. You just need to turn on me to kill me, but if you don't then you have a l2p issue.

except you have the benefit of being able to spam it from 40 meters away and most people do it behind a group or zerg. dizzying swing does the same damage and requires you to actually risk going up close and snipe shouldn't do as much damage as dizzying swing.

themaddaedra · December 2018

Not a fan of stamblades but honestly pvp is overall broken af to hell imo, so couldn't care less which broken sht appears on my death recap.

Enjoy if you have something to, if not avoid pvp like aids. It will never be good, stop forcing yourself.

Uviryth · December 2018

jrgray93 wrote: »

The problem I have with it is the people using it hide until you're fighting other enemies, then they spam it from a distance and you sometimes don't even know until you're dead.

Of course you wait for the target to be at a disadvantage. Fighting fair fights is tactically stupid. Only fight if you know you have the advantage!

MartiniDaniels · December 2018

they should kept those patch changes exclusively for snipe, when you need to lead crosshair on target all time of cast time ability..

frostz417 · December 2018

max_only wrote: »

frostz417 wrote: »

Watch out, you’ll trigger the forumblades who will defend their snipe spammer playstyle to the death saying nonsense like “hurrr durrr slot purge and block”

What bro, you don’t have that “dodge now” addon? Hurr hurr git gud

In all seriousness though, dodge the sound if you can. If you can’t beat em, join em.

Yes we can roll dodge when the sound doesn’t register most of the time. Not to mention dodging cost more the more you cast. Snipe doesn’t.

Qbiken · December 2018

Ye snipe is a very balanced skill

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MaxJrFTW · December 2018

Bhaal5 wrote: »

All snipe needs is something like streak, cast this action in a span of 10 seconds, cost is doubled and the initial cost needs to be raised.
Problem solved

That would make it useless in PvE. Not that many people use it in PvE, but i do see the occasional bow only build while doing dungeons.

bharathitman · December 2018

Can we also talk about sorcs spamming mages wrath to death? Here is how it typically goes, two melee dd's engage and snare you and then there is a sorc in the back spamming encase and mages wrath.. Makes for a potent combo

JaZ2091 · December 2018

I bet some people in here complaining about snipe run warden with sub spin 2 win DB combo.

Sy1ph5 · December 2018

teladoy wrote: »

I have a sniper and is glass cannon. Many of the times my shots will be evaded or absorbed, but if I get to hit you, then is gonna hurt like hell. You just need to turn on me to kill me, but if you don't then you have a l2p issue.

What a strategy I should have turned on the guy sitting 40m away pressing 1 button over and over again. All while pressured by multiple people actually playing the game in a dynamic and interesting manner. Snipe is a boring skill that specifically adversely affects interesting skill based combat and encourages braindead button spamming.

frostz417 · December 2018

bharathitman wrote: »

Can we also talk about sorcs spamming mages wrath to death? Here is how it typically goes, two melee dd's engage and snare you and then there is a sorc in the back spamming encase and mages wrath.. Makes for a potent combo

Also a good one to discuss!

Bhaal5 · December 2018

MaxJrFTW wrote: »

Bhaal5 wrote: »

All snipe needs is something like streak, cast this action in a span of 10 seconds, cost is doubled and the initial cost needs to be raised.
Problem solved

That would make it useless in PvE. Not that many people use it in PvE, but i do see the occasional bow only build while doing dungeons.

Snipe is already useless in pve? Dont know any decent builds (that hit over 40k) that uses snipe

Sy1ph5 · December 2018

You can hit well over 40k with snipe builds it's just like all Stam hard carried by vMA bow and rele