Are potions boring in eso?

Dr3sden · December 2018

You ever feel like you see the same potions being sold in stores and being used by everyone else?

Latios · December 2018

If you mean PvE, then yes, there are a handful of useful potions, and only a couple are used by DPS in general.

In PvP, however, there's a lot of potion diversity. Stamina and magicka Immovability, vanish, health regen, lingering health, major vitality, speed, etc.

I don't think they are boring in PvP. Good players bring 5 different potions or so to fights in order to adapt as the showdown goes on.

Glurin · December 2018

Frankly, yeah, they kinda are.

Don't get me wrong. They are very useful. It's just, they're really just a combination of buffs or a refill of one or more of your resources. And everyone has just kind of settled on a few particular ones that they use.

John_Falstaff · December 2018

The only potions I ever buy in stores are the dirt cheap dropped trash stamina or magicka potions. It's always much better to craft them yourself (not to mention that you do want those alchemy passives anyway).

If you're speaking about variety of useful potions - yes and no; not all potions are useful, but there's more to it than the typical weapon power / spell power potions used by DDs. I see invisibility potions being used. Tanks use tripots, some like potions of lingering health (and they stack with themselves - you can run two copies running together with infused potion cooldown glyphs). If someone gets Savagery / Prophecy passively from slotted skills, they can cut down on ingredients a bit and craft their damage dealer's potions with Brutality / Sorcery alone. Even more options in PvP.

Now if you mean how they're used, then maybe a little. I don't see potions in ESO being used as something rare "in case of dire need", not commonly anyway. I drink them on cooldown - even outside of serious boss fights, in which case it would be trash potions; if I didn't, I wouldn't be able to sustain.

mocap · December 2018

invis potions are nice to skip some trashes in dlc danjens.

Dr3sden · December 2018

mocap wrote: »

invis potions are nice to skip some trashes in dlc danjens.

not in newer dungeons though

Tryxus · December 2018

PvP:

- Tri Stat
- Magicka/Stamina
- Detection
- Immovable
- Lingering HP + Speed

The essentials for every trip to a PvP area. Use them depending on the situation

PvE? Yeah, potion selection is rather limited to just 1-2 pots depending on your role, or class even.

But hey, if it's boring then you can always spice things up and drink a Ravage Health potion during battle

idk · December 2018

Potions are more interesting here than other dungeons. Further, in niche situations I do use different potions in Pve. In PvP the variety is larger.

Potions in this game can be as simple or complex as you want it to be. The standard resource/damage/crit used in competitive trial runs is not needed when messing around. We can get some of those buffs elsewhere allowing us to use different potions.

So, if one thinks potions are boring then a little imagination might open ones eyes.

Banana · December 2018

Not if your an argonian

WuffyCerulei · December 2018

There’s way more variety in use of potions in pvp, depending less on your role and more on your build. Pve has been the same for years, but the potions both stamina and magicka dps give them buffs that would take up a skill slot. That’s mainly for stamina dps. Magicka dps can get away with not using the spell crit mats if they double bar inner light.

myskyrim26 · December 2018

Are they supposed to be fun at all?

Jameliel · December 2018

DDO had the best potions in any MMO I ever played. It would be awesome if ESO adapted similar things.

VaranisArano · December 2018

What exactly would it take to make potions "exciting"?

I mean, it's pretty much the same as Skyrim. I use health, stamina, magicka, tripots, invisibility, and all the "fortify damage" effects are lumped under weapon/spell damage/crit effects.

Tryxus · December 2018

VaranisArano wrote: »

What exactly would it take to make potions "exciting"?

Lorkhan's Tears, some Blessed Thistle & Nightshade. Or Corn Flower + Nirnroot. Chug that down during a battle...

Left4Daud · December 2018

They are boring because they are ubiquitous and mandatory. They would be cooler if using them was a clutch tactical decision with a big payoff as opposed to just another press in your rotation.

zyk · December 2018

Potions are fine. I don't think they're boring in PVP at all.

They are only boring in PVE because of how PVE is designed.

VaranisArano · December 2018

Left4Daud wrote: »

They are boring because they are ubiquitous and mandatory. They would be cooler if using them was a clutch tactical decision with a big payoff as opposed to just another press in your rotation.

Like pressing my immoveable pot right before I charge through a breach in a keep wall?

If all you use potions for is resource management or damage buffs, yeah, it's going to be a button press in your rotation. If not, its a little more interesting.

Left4Daud · December 2018

VaranisArano wrote: »

Like pressing my immoveable pot right before I charge through a breach in a keep wall?

If all you use potions for is resource management or damage buffs, yeah, it's going to be a button press in your rotation. If not, its a little more interesting.

What’s tactical about doing something so obvious as that? It’s not like you had to really weigh your options and make a calculated decision. It’s too basic and therefore boring.

VaranisArano · December 2018

Left4Daud wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

Like pressing my immoveable pot right before I charge through a breach in a keep wall?

If all you use potions for is resource management or damage buffs, yeah, it's going to be a button press in your rotation. If not, its a little more interesting.

What’s tactical about doing something so obvious as that? It’s not like you had to really weigh your options and make a calculated decision. It’s too basic and therefore boring.

So, uh, maybe give some specific examples of what you want? Saving my immovability pot for a breach charge is more tactical than chugging spellpower pots on cooldown during a boss fight, I'd argue.

Because otherwise, I'm mystified. What do you want that's going to be tactical, give a "big payoff" that will be balanced in PVP and PVE, and make people actually weigh their options?

(And then consider that, boring or not, this is pretty much how potions work in other TES games)

Siohwenoeht · December 2018

It's difficult for me on console since the ability to switch pots on the fly is clunky, but I still love that they are important for combat.

NordSwordnBoard · December 2018

Who's going to press a button multiple times to make a stack if they aren't sure it's going to sell?

I could get creative, but the commodities sell better than the niche.

Sengra · December 2018

I guess that's not the question but for me as a casual who mostly just roleplays they're boring because you can only use them for buffs/debuffs. There's just no fun potions you can craft such as appearance change potions that let you turn into a giant, a rat or a Dwemer for an hour.

zaria · December 2018

Dr3sden wrote: »

You ever feel like you see the same potions being sold in stores and being used by everyone else?

Most fun with potions is then someone try to switch to another one and spawn the banker or mercant during an boss fight.
And yes the system for switching to another quickslot is hopeless to use in an fight, that is why it fail a lot and why its better staying with an very boring but functional potion.