It hasn’t killed any builds, but it does directly mitigate a good portion of the damage of jabs and dawnbreaker. So stamplars have a pretty sizable damage loss vs other medium armor users, and stambaldes come out on top because not only do they get to use shuffle, but incap is single target. The gap between stamplar and stambalde 1v1 is pretty high.

I've noticed considerable survivability when slotting Mirage against Zerg rolling Stamina Wardens spamming Sub Assault with Steel Tornado. Everyone dies around me while I somehow make it out. It is a game changer in that scenario.

I kinda thought most non-NB builds we're dead/dying already...

I see wardens whom use the stun rather than permafrost damage
I see NB Snipes that deal 10k

I do not see magplar (non-healer)
I do not see Magden (non-snare)
I do not see non-Zoo Sorcs


Essentially the only damage dealing class in BGs ATM are NBs.

I do not blame major evasion for this (though it could be indirectly)

BGs are mag tanks that deal little to no damage and NBs that deal massive damage. So yes and no. Many builds are dead - is it because of major evasion? Probably not, but those builds that would be weak to it are already dead.

Stam has plenty of single target bleed damage and snipe and defile ult (whoops I mean NB... Kinda synonymous at this point though...)

@Vapirko what it really does is add a variation of balance. Everyone complaining about AOEs in bgs for example. I threw on quick cloak in my light armor set up and that is now the difference between surviving and dying in the AOE meta. AOEs are op and need a form of mitigation especially since they’re not dodgeable. Using major evasion is a sacrifice to something on most classes. And every class needs a weakness.

@technohic only with people using major evasion. And heavy armor mitigates it inherently. It’s it like people are stacking major evasion with heavy except NBs. Oh btw, I don’t say cleanses need to be nerfed as a mag dk or dot stam dk. Jabs isn’t really that weak. People just don’t build enough damage or pen. And having an AOE that is undodgeable, pulls from stealth, and hits pretty hard against non major evasion opponents all the while having power of the light, I think they’ll be okay. My stun and free whip was taken from my dk and that has been bigger hit to me than the major evasion is to templars and wardens. It’s why we have seen an increase in templars and wardens.

@technohic that’s what I ask if I wonder if a class has really gone to ***. Are they being played a lot less? The honest answer is generally a sign of the performance.

It’s powerful, that’s for sure. Lots of people don’t run it right now, usually the people making threads asking for nerfs to steel tornado, sub assault, blockade, or whatever other aoe last killed them.

You sort of can’t blame people for not slotting everything, the skill bar is limited.

Templars don’t need a further buff because of major evasion though. The reason being they were buffed at the same time dodge was changed, and are balanced around major evasion being a thing.

medium armor without shuffle, or heavy armor without blade cloak or nightblade without blur is straight up gimping urself. saying u dont have a skill slot is not an arguement as to why 1 skill slot should mitigate 25% of all aoes.
its common sense.

It feels fine to me. All I know is that I wouldn't be able to survive fights against some magplars if I didn't have major evasion.

Its not like its hardcountering like reflects or absorbs for ranged projectiles. ie shimmering shield and wings.

I haven't noticed templars being any weaker. If anything they hit harder and are more prevalent.