charunks wrote: »

hello fellow eso players,

i am struggling to enjoy pvp. i have played for years now but do not seem to comprehend a blatantly clear thing that is sitting right in front of me. i have tried dozens of cooky cutter builds, and my own creations, but i never seem to get viable. ive been playing mmo's for more then 15 years and in every game i could become at least decent. Not in eso. against some players i do ok, but i quickly encounter players that seem to do 3x my danage while also being 3x as tanky. once they start dpsing on me its over in 3-5 second. blocking doesnt work and does not kill a player, stunning and then quickly retaking initiative via dps is futile. my heals are lackluster. damage is lackluster. ability to absorb damage is lackluster. ive tried wizards riposte, pirate skelly and fortified brass, still a 4 second instagib. stam nbs? die in 2 seconds. magdk? 3! stamina anything? 3 seconds.

my current build (builds seem to make little difference at this point) on my temp is:
light julianos,
pirate skelly,
wizards riposte.
i play non cp bg's. using normal skills and am vampire.
tried heavy julianos before this, i could take one additional hit compared to light. in eso thats 0.33 seconds


what am i missing?

I'm sure this is not the answer you're looking for but how much time have you really put into PVP? Because all i can think of is you need more practice with mechanics, healing, damage output and all that...your build is really only so helpful it's all of the little things that go into making you good at PVP. Like do you kite people, do you use LoS, are you keeping buffs up 100% of the time, do you know when to pop heals, what procs your sets, weaving light attacks, animation cancelling like all of these things can only come to you by dying in PVP A LOT. In the range of 100s of hours worth of PVP experience.

Go for tanky.

5/1/1 Heavy, shacklebreaker/salvation, 2x protective jewelry, Lady sign, pirate skeleton, werewolf. Stam DK. DW main(WW ult), 1h/S offbar(temporal guard ult, do not use, just passive while charging 201 ult).

42000+ physical resistance (in CP) while in WW form as long as armor buff lasts. Laugh at those armor debuffs/penetration sets. If skeleton procs you can wade through zergs. Fun times.

I haven’t played magplar for a while but I do know that heavy armor synergizes incredibly well with magplar even in the current patch. This will also give you more room for error and time to breath and think about what you’re doing. Breath or life or honor the dead alone should keep you alive at least for a while. Riposte definitely isn’t as good as it once was. Basically without seeing your gameplay it’s hard to say. That build should be ok in theory. Magplar basics though, put down your time of protection or whatever, put down your ritual and stay in your damn circle when 1v1, or if outnumbered try to lure people into a choke point where you can stand on your rune. The heal from puncturing sweeps and BOL should be enough for the rest of it. Skoria is always a good set for heavy magplar. Other than that watch for CC immmunity and try to line up your burst.

2x pirate
5x wizards body
5x Lich (back bar SnB)
2x willpower dual wield

5-1-1
5impen 3sturdy
Nirnhoned sharpened Swords + powered 1h
Argonian vampire
Tripots
Atronach Mundus
All spell damage glyphs

To survive
Channeled focus, extended ritual and honor the dead will be enough, must mist form when 3 or more until you can burst them

Burst combo is purifying light, reflective light, dawnbreaker of smiting and puncturing sweeps with radiant glory to finish and have entropy and inner light slotted for max damage.

Aslong as you can survive and mist away and burst them with an ulti that stuns you gonna do well.

Sharee wrote: »

Go for tanky.

5/1/1 Heavy, shacklebreaker/salvation, 2x protective jewelry, Lady sign, pirate skeleton, werewolf. Stam DK. DW main(WW ult), 1h/S offbar(temporal guard ult, do not use, just passive while charging 201 ult).

42000+ physical resistance (in CP) while in WW form as long as armor buff lasts. Laugh at those armor debuffs/penetration sets. If skeleton procs you can wade through zergs. Fun times.

These replies are always my favorite. Instead of learning 2 play, jUsT bUiLd A tAnK

bagon wrote: »

Sharee wrote: »

Go for tanky.

5/1/1 Heavy, shacklebreaker/salvation, 2x protective jewelry, Lady sign, pirate skeleton, werewolf. Stam DK. DW main(WW ult), 1h/S offbar(temporal guard ult, do not use, just passive while charging 201 ult).

42000+ physical resistance (in CP) while in WW form as long as armor buff lasts. Laugh at those armor debuffs/penetration sets. If skeleton procs you can wade through zergs. Fun times.

These replies are always my favorite. Instead of learning 2 play, jUsT bUiLd A tAnK

It is much easier to "learn 2 play" when you have more than 2 seconds to do so.

montjie wrote: »

id say go duel against people around ur skilllevel.

This. I'll talk about builds as well, because it's easy to talk about, but this is by far the best advice.

I would only add that, if you're tentative and backed into spamming Honor the Dead, it is particularly hard to turn the fight around on a magplar.

I know you've tried everything in terms of builds, but for what it's worth:

I disagree with Vapirko on heavy armor. Light Armor is the way to go, especially this patch. You lose too much damage by not having the crit and penetration, which now works against everyone. Aside from Pirate + Riposte, tankiness can also be achieved by adding Protective jewelry. I use Pirate + Overwhelming Surge + Amber Plasm + vMA resto back bar. These are my reasons for going with that exact combination:

Overwhelming helps to detect and stay on top of nightblades. Your best weapon is to jab relentlessly as they try to cloak. It is a little mindless, but it often beats trying to do something more elaborate against nightblades.

You need stam regen for break free and occasional dodge rolling. Hence Amber Plasm. Since I cannot have the stam sustain from Amber or Shackle, and Riposte, and a damage set at the same time, I choose the stam sustain. I find that ultimately more valuable than Riposte.

Using Mutagen adds much needed healing over time to a magplar and enables the vMA resto. I also use an Infused Absorb Health enchant on my front bar. This makes it easier not to become backed into defensive Honor the Dead spamming. I therefore use a lightning staff front bar and resto back bar, which I have come to prefer over the more standard blocking 1H+S or ice staff back bar playstyle.

so I will throw in a possibly unpopular comment. when I bought i real mmo mouse I went from feeling powerless to crushing stuff as much as it is about knowing how to play having input that makes it easy can be a cheat way to get ahead