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Just take the tickets and the event rewards away from the FG exploiters.
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ol_BANK_lo✭✭✭✭✭Those who exploited the group finder tool by teleporting to Fungal Grotto to receive their rewards during the entire duration of the event, while justifying it and calling others toxic and stupid for not following, should be punished.
You can't just let this go ZOS...
Cause it's not fair to those who do things legitimately, actually put in the time and effort and actually have some interest in playing the game for others as well.
Taking away the rewards from these exploiters hurts a ton more than a ban in my opinion and is a good way to make your point across without hurting the population.
It's an obvious exploit by definition.
You must be fun at parties10 -
Nyladreas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭BANK_IT_HERE wrote: »Those who exploited the group finder tool by teleporting to Fungal Grotto to receive their rewards during the entire duration of the event, while justifying it and calling others toxic and stupid for not following, should be punished.
You can't just let this go ZOS...
Cause it's not fair to those who do things legitimately, actually put in the time and effort and actually have some interest in playing the game for others as well.
Taking away the rewards from these exploiters hurts a ton more than a ban in my opinion and is a good way to make your point across without hurting the population.
It's an obvious exploit by definition.
You must be fun at parties
I guess the only parties you go to happen at the chess club then.
It's actually shocking how many people approve of this stupid exploit.
ZOS has to make a statement on this.Edited by Nyladreas on December 5, 2018 4:13PM1 -
FreshlyB8ked✭✭✭✭I'm starting a support group for people's lives that were ruined because of the group porting to Fungal Grotto.15 -
Khaleesi8688✭✭✭✭But like we don't enjoy carrying bad pugs in dlc dungeons that just spam snipe
I just hate the fact that such a huge exploit is being let go on a giant scale. It's about the principle of the thing.
Let something like this go one time, more things are going to pop up. It also makes the game look kinda crappy.
If this is the thing you're worried will make the game look crappy...Well I think that tells us all we need to know. I personally think having an event that would require me to play 7 hours a day to take full advantage of said event would make the game look crappy. I did FL and MHK on a PvP character during this event because I'm not an a**hole. But i also ported to FG1 when the group wanted to because what I want isn't more important than what everyone else wants. It's called being decent. It sounds like you might wanna look into that. Too much salt is bad for you anyway.4 -
Nyladreas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭You're all missing the point. I couldn't care less about what the exploit is. It's the fact that it's an exploit that's being wrongly justified and thanks to its presence on a large scale promotes toxic behaviour towards those who play fair.
You could be exploiting wayshrine costs for all I care. Doesn't hurt anyone but it's still wrong. Get it?1 -
kathandira✭✭✭✭✭
✭BANK_IT_HERE wrote: »Those who exploited the group finder tool by teleporting to Fungal Grotto to receive their rewards during the entire duration of the event, while justifying it and calling others toxic and stupid for not following, should be punished.
You can't just let this go ZOS...
Cause it's not fair to those who do things legitimately, actually put in the time and effort and actually have some interest in playing the game for others as well.
Taking away the rewards from these exploiters hurts a ton more than a ban in my opinion and is a good way to make your point across without hurting the population.
It's an obvious exploit by definition.
You must be fun at parties
I guess the only parties you go to happen at the chess club then.
It's actually shocking how many people approve of this stupid exploit.
ZOS has to make a statement on this.FreshlyB8ked wrote: »I'm starting a support group for people's lives that were ruined because of the group porting to Fungal Grotto.
"No-Fun-Gal Grotto Support Group"PS4-NA. Breton Templar Healer, Bosmer Stamplar, Breton Magplar, Orsimer StamDK, Dunmer MagDK, Khajiit StamNB, Dunmer MagNB, Argonian Warden Tank, Altmer Magsorc4 -
Swift_One✭✭Yay, another thread on this. It should be clear by now that zos doesn't care one bit, and neither should you. They need to focus on real bugs in the game, not this petty crap.5
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Vapirko✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Dude, give it a rest. Sheesh. I really think you should find something meaningful in real life, you’re obviously too invested in this game.8 -
Sotha_Sil✭✭✭✭✭
✭Those who exploited the group finder tool by teleporting to Fungal Grotto to receive their rewards during the entire duration of the event, while justifying it and calling others toxic and stupid for not following, should be punished.
You can't just let this go ZOS...
Cause it's not fair to those who do things legitimately, actually put in the time and effort and actually have some interest in playing the game for others as well.
Taking away the rewards from these exploiters hurts a ton more than a ban in my opinion and is a good way to make your point across without hurting the population.
It's an obvious exploit by definition.
Have you even tried doing this on 8 characters ? I personally have only 8 (I know some people have 15). I queued for the dungeon as healer => I had no good tank, crappy DPS | I queued for the dungeon as tank => I got *** heal, no DPS | I queued for the dungeon as DD => I got no heal, no tank. You get the idea.
So after the first day of spending literally the whole day in instances because most of the time, we had *** group and I had to carry people for instances lasting between 30 minutes and hours, I was like ok, this sucks. Hard. This is not fun.
I like to help people when they are willing to try. When people are just there, and taking advantage of you, not my problem! I won't be the guy spending hours in it because someone can't use breath of life or a taunt. You can spend your time that way if you want, but this is stupid imo.Edited by Sotha_Sil on December 5, 2018 4:24PMRestoration is a perfectly valid school of magic, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise! - Spells and incantations for those with the talent to cast them!5 -
Nyladreas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Dude, give it a rest. Sheesh. I really think you should find something meaningful in real life, you’re obviously too invested in this game.
I'm not even actively playing it and I just got a job offer of my life. I don't think you understand my point at all, just like most people here.
I'll say it again... It's because of the principle.1 -
Arciris✭✭✭✭✭
✭But like we don't enjoy carrying bad pugs in dlc dungeons that just spam snipe
I just hate the fact that such a huge exploit is being let go on a giant scale. It's about the principle of the thing.
Let something like this go one time, more things are going to pop up. It also makes the game look kinda crappy.
They opened that door long ago when they approved Animation Cancelling (which also makes the game looks"kinda crappy").
At least this "huge" exploit doesn't give any competitive advantage at all.2 -
Nyladreas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Those who exploited the group finder tool by teleporting to Fungal Grotto to receive their rewards during the entire duration of the event, while justifying it and calling others toxic and stupid for not following, should be punished.
You can't just let this go ZOS...
Cause it's not fair to those who do things legitimately, actually put in the time and effort and actually have some interest in playing the game for others as well.
Taking away the rewards from these exploiters hurts a ton more than a ban in my opinion and is a good way to make your point across without hurting the population.
It's an obvious exploit by definition.
Have you even tried doing this on 8 characters ? I personally have only 8 (I know some people have 15). I queued for the dungeon as healer => I had no good tank, crappy DPS | I queued for the dungeon as tank => I got *** heal, no DPS | I queued for the dungeon as DD => I got no heal, no tank. You get the idea.
So after the first day of spending literally the whole day in instances because most of the time, we had *** group and I had to carry people for instances lasting between 30 minutes and hours, I was like ok, this sucks. Hard.
That's honestly your problem. You choose to do it on 8 characters and I really don't care what kind of exploit are you abusing.
It's still an exploit. Period.0 -
preevious✭✭✭✭✭
✭Please, stop hiding behing "principles" ..
people don't get your point, because it's so vastly petty and unimportant, it's giving me vertigo just thinking about it -_-
You are pissed, ok .. in the end, how is it your problem if people got rewards easier than you did?
I'm a DPS, I did it once, because I had to follow my group, or requeue (the horror !).
I just raised my shoulders, and got along with it... if it makes their days, it makes mine.5 -
robpr✭✭✭✭✭
✭Why the tickets? This is a thing for years. You would have to remove all xp, transmute geodes and agility/willpower/endurance gear from everyone who done it. It just comes into light whenever there is event involving finder.
You got tickets by clearing any dungeon anyway, is it for using finder or not.
Event is over anyway and everyone will forget about it till the next year.0 -
Qbiken✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭BANK_IT_HERE wrote: »Those who exploited the group finder tool by teleporting to Fungal Grotto to receive their rewards during the entire duration of the event, while justifying it and calling others toxic and stupid for not following, should be punished.
You can't just let this go ZOS...
Cause it's not fair to those who do things legitimately, actually put in the time and effort and actually have some interest in playing the game for others as well.
Taking away the rewards from these exploiters hurts a ton more than a ban in my opinion and is a good way to make your point across without hurting the population.
It's an obvious exploit by definition.
You must be fun at parties
I guess the only parties you go to happen at the chess club then.
It's actually shocking how many people approve of this stupid exploit.
ZOS has to make a statement on this.
They already have, and they´re not going to punish anyone for it.1 -
Ryath_Waylander✭✭✭✭✭
✭It's over. ESO dropped the ball with their radio silence. When the group decided against porting, I stayed. When they decided to port, I went. I missed an entire day of mystery boxes because the group finder was broken. Glad your performance was good enough to allow you the luxury of taking the moral high ground. By day 2 after hour and a half failed queues, I was damned if I was going to risk getting kicked just when I finally got into a random dungeon because the pug I ended up with wanted to port. That being said, today, first random after the event, dd asks to port to CoH because he has gear to farm. This does need to be fixed as new players are going to battle to get dungeons, with undesirable equipment, done. It's hard enough for them to get quests done with high level players just rushing through as it is.2 -
kathandira✭✭✭✭✭
✭ZOS has to make a statement on this.
They already have, and they´re not going to punish anyone for it. [/quote]
/End Thread.PS4-NA. Breton Templar Healer, Bosmer Stamplar, Breton Magplar, Orsimer StamDK, Dunmer MagDK, Khajiit StamNB, Dunmer MagNB, Argonian Warden Tank, Altmer Magsorc0 -
Mureel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Dude, give it a rest. Sheesh. I really think you should find something meaningful in real life, you’re obviously too invested in this game.
I'm not even actively playing it and I just got a job offer of my life. I don't think you understand my point at all, just like most people here.
I'll say it again... It's because of the principle.
It's a FAULTY PRINCIPLE though.
Since NO ONE who matters said it's an exploit at all.
However, on the other hand - in my opinion - people who expect other players to just hang around whilst they wipe endlessly or do 1k dps and die all the time, and expect to be carried/rezzd etc - are exploiting other PEOPLE.exploitation
NOUN
1mass noun The action or fact of treating someone unfairly in order to benefit from their work.
Like everyone EVER who queues for any DLC dungeon that they have NO HOPE to clear without the help of others.
I mean - if you wanna be funny, we can be hilarious.
Edited by Mureel on December 5, 2018 4:30PM3 -
Sotha_Sil✭✭✭✭✭
✭Those who exploited the group finder tool by teleporting to Fungal Grotto to receive their rewards during the entire duration of the event, while justifying it and calling others toxic and stupid for not following, should be punished.
You can't just let this go ZOS...
Cause it's not fair to those who do things legitimately, actually put in the time and effort and actually have some interest in playing the game for others as well.
Taking away the rewards from these exploiters hurts a ton more than a ban in my opinion and is a good way to make your point across without hurting the population.
It's an obvious exploit by definition.
Have you even tried doing this on 8 characters ? I personally have only 8 (I know some people have 15). I queued for the dungeon as healer => I had no good tank, crappy DPS | I queued for the dungeon as tank => I got *** heal, no DPS | I queued for the dungeon as DD => I got no heal, no tank. You get the idea.
So after the first day of spending literally the whole day in instances because most of the time, we had *** group and I had to carry people for instances lasting between 30 minutes and hours, I was like ok, this sucks. Hard.
That's honestly your problem. You choose to do it on 8 characters and I really don't care what kind of exploit are you abusing.
It's still an exploit. Period.
Well if you did it only on 1 character, then I guess, it's obvious why you are pissed... you tried only once to get the rewards and get angry at people who did it with more. And it was your choice... so maybe don't try to tell me what I choose to do when you made your choice too.Restoration is a perfectly valid school of magic, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise! - Spells and incantations for those with the talent to cast them!3 -
Nyladreas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Those who exploited the group finder tool by teleporting to Fungal Grotto to receive their rewards during the entire duration of the event, while justifying it and calling others toxic and stupid for not following, should be punished.
You can't just let this go ZOS...
Cause it's not fair to those who do things legitimately, actually put in the time and effort and actually have some interest in playing the game for others as well.
Taking away the rewards from these exploiters hurts a ton more than a ban in my opinion and is a good way to make your point across without hurting the population.
It's an obvious exploit by definition.
Have you even tried doing this on 8 characters ? I personally have only 8 (I know some people have 15). I queued for the dungeon as healer => I had no good tank, crappy DPS | I queued for the dungeon as tank => I got *** heal, no DPS | I queued for the dungeon as DD => I got no heal, no tank. You get the idea.
So after the first day of spending literally the whole day in instances because most of the time, we had *** group and I had to carry people for instances lasting between 30 minutes and hours, I was like ok, this sucks. Hard.
That's honestly your problem. You choose to do it on 8 characters and I really don't care what kind of exploit are you abusing.
It's still an exploit. Period.
Well if you did it only on 1 character, then I guess, it's obvious why you are pissed... you tried only once to get the rewards and get angry at people who did it with more. And it was your choice... so maybe don't try to tell me what I choose to do when you made your choice too.
I never even done the event, or the cwc or the witches festival one. Stop trying to blame it on a non existent personal issue of mine, because it's about fairness towards other people and not about narcissistic selfishness.
I couldn't care less about getting the mount. I care, however, about fair play.
Anyways since ZOS stated that they won't punish people we might as well get this thread locked since that makes my argument irrelevant.0 -
cheifsoap✭✭✭✭✭You're all missing the point. I couldn't care less about what the exploit is. It's the fact that it's an exploit that's being wrongly justified and thanks to its presence on a large scale promotes toxic behaviour towards those who play fair.
You could be exploiting wayshrine costs for all I care. Doesn't hurt anyone but it's still wrong. Get it?
Has the thought occurred to you that maybe you're just wrong on this. There's a reason why most people are okay with it and disagree with you. Sometimes its not them, its you. Every once in a while its worth looking in the mirrorEdited by cheifsoap on December 5, 2018 4:36PM2 -
Sotha_Sil✭✭✭✭✭
✭I never even done the event, or the cwc or the witches festival one.
So you are actually ranting about an event you did not even BOTHER to do ?? and you come here to give us your wise wisdom ?
WHO IS ACTUALLY PLAYING AND PARTICIPATING IN THE GAME NOW ? I WANT TO KNOW
Pathetic behavior!Edited by Sotha_Sil on December 5, 2018 4:39PMRestoration is a perfectly valid school of magic, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise! - Spells and incantations for those with the talent to cast them!7 -
warabi✭✭✭Instead of being annoyed at this poorly thought out event and the fact that players felt compelled to find a solution instead of spending literal hours gathering boxes on all their characters your mind goes straight to this crap. It's astonishing how short sighted people mad about this are.2 -
AlnilamE✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Those who exploited the group finder tool by teleporting to Fungal Grotto to receive their rewards during the entire duration of the event, while justifying it and calling others toxic and stupid for not following, should be punished.
You can't just let this go ZOS...
Cause it's not fair to those who do things legitimately, actually put in the time and effort and actually have some interest in playing the game for others as well.
Taking away the rewards from these exploiters hurts a ton more than a ban in my opinion and is a good way to make your point across without hurting the population.
It's an obvious exploit by definition.
No. But maybe for next year they should limit the reward to one per account per day.
Personally, I ran 10 characters through on Friday, Saturday and Sunday. Mostly with guildies and we took the given dungeon 90% of the time since there was always at least one person in the group that needed the quest for that dungeon on that alt.
It was a lot of fun, but it took a lot of time to get through all of them. Not the kind of time I have on a work night, unfortunately. But whatever we did, we had a great time and I'm looking forward to actually taking my time through some of the DLC dungeons now that the event is over.The Moot Councillor0 -
Nyladreas✭✭✭✭✭
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Yeah that's right. I don't play the game but I still subscribe.
and I still stay active on the forums and talk to a bunch of people. 0 -
Khaleesi8688✭✭✭✭Dude, give it a rest. Sheesh. I really think you should find something meaningful in real life, you’re obviously too invested in this game.
I'm not even actively playing it and I just got a job offer of my life. I don't think you understand my point at all, just like most people here.
I'll say it again... It's because of the principle.
So you are whinging about the principle on a game you aren't actively playing? That's worse than being too invested. The only eso police that matter have @Zos in front of their names and I don't see it on yours. Go have a coke and a smile and stop wasting your time. Event is over. No one will be punished for getting thru this horrendously designed event in whatever way suited them.7 -
Katahdin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Can we get a fire hose over here to wash away this ginormous pile of salt?
Beta tester November 20135 -
Sotha_Sil✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yeah that's right. I don't play the game but I still subscribe. and I still stay active on the forums and talk to a bunch of people.
Well, piece of advice for you, next time you want to talk about something, try to know what you are talking about or people will think you are a fool.Edited by Sotha_Sil on December 5, 2018 4:43PMRestoration is a perfectly valid school of magic, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise! - Spells and incantations for those with the talent to cast them!6 -
Mureel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Yeah that's right. I don't play the game but I still subscribe. and I still stay active on the forums and talk to a bunch of people.
Well, piece of advice for you, next time you want to talk about something, try to know what you are talking about or people will think you are a fool.
Or KNOW it. ;-)'Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt.'
I don't remember who said it....but yeah, it's known.1
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