Should we return?

ared89 · December 2018

Hi everyone,

It's been a while since I left the game (about 2 years) and now me and my mates are thinking about coming back, this time on PS4.

How is the game in general and how is it like to play on PS4? Is the community bigger there? Is the game worth buying again and come back at all?

Thank you for your input!

cambergang · December 2018

Not worth it to be honest I’m just waiting for the next game I can sink my time in. Nothing ever get fixed, the community isn’t that bad.

Glurin · December 2018

Compared to how it was two years ago, much improved. A lot has changed since you left.

Don't get me wrong. ESO isn't perfect, but what MMO is? "Nothing ever gets fixed" is just a lie though. A typical expression of angst you'll find on pretty much any gaming forum. Old bugs get fixed, new bugs emerge, balance is always shifting and lag is always a factor in anything you do online.

Overall, I'd say it's worth coming back for a while.

MetalHead4x4 · December 2018

Glurin wrote: »

Compared to how it was two years ago, much improved. A lot has changed since you left.

Don't get me wrong. ESO isn't perfect, but what MMO is? "Nothing ever gets fixed" is just a lie though. A typical expression of angst you'll find on pretty much any gaming forum. Old bugs get fixed, new bugs emerge, balance is always shifting and lag is always a factor in anything you do online.

Overall, I'd say it's worth coming back for a while.

In this case he's right. Old bugs still exist, the lag still exist, class imbalance still exist, cheaters still exist. It's not a lie, and it hasn't improved.

NupidStoob · December 2018

If you come back I would suggest on PC just for the benefit of addons and better performance. It also sounds like especially PvP is dying on consoles.

A lot has improved over the last two years, but many things have not. However you can still invest a massive amount of time into all the content before you really run into too many of the issues the game has.

NoMoreChillies · December 2018

The dev team released an event based on the group finder that has been broken for over a year. This issue is magnified with increased load due to said event.

Choice is yours

Glurin · December 2018

MetalHead4x4 wrote: »

Glurin wrote: »

Compared to how it was two years ago, much improved. A lot has changed since you left.

Don't get me wrong. ESO isn't perfect, but what MMO is? "Nothing ever gets fixed" is just a lie though. A typical expression of angst you'll find on pretty much any gaming forum. Old bugs get fixed, new bugs emerge, balance is always shifting and lag is always a factor in anything you do online.

Overall, I'd say it's worth coming back for a while.

In this case he's right. Old bugs still exist, the lag still exist, class imbalance still exist, cheaters still exist. It's not a lie, and it hasn't improved.

Some old bugs exist. Many have been squashed.

Lag still exists and always will in any online game. Not ESO specific.

Class imbalance still exists because this is an MMO. That's kind of a thing in MMOs. One class is OP one month, another the next. Just because it exists doesn't mean the devs do nothing about it.

Cheaters exist because they are cheaters. Again, you're going to find them everywhere. You can't get rid of them. All you can do is fight them, which ZoS has done and continues to do.

You're trying to give the impression that ESO is garbage and the devs refuse to do anything about it because all they just don't care. That is far from being the case and it is disingenuous for you to not acknowledge that changes have been made to improve the game. Besides, if you really believed that, then why are you here?

mague · December 2018

Dont know about PS4. But the game is good and fun as long as you have content. Which is a lot when you start new.

Some people have their problems with veteran dungeons, endgame pvp or daily missions. But most games are like that.

Jurand80 · December 2018

From what i've been reading here it looks pike console performance is not what you want. Stick to pc and enjoy the game like we all did in the beggining.

Oh and don't do anything stupid like buying a 3 month sub

sampol212 · December 2018

The game is not worth coming back to be honest. The overland content is so easy, not challenging and not rewarding that besides going dungeons and trials theres notjing to do and nothing to have fun with.

Its sad that this game has so many lands with so many quests but because is so easy you get bored very quickly. If your character is developed theres also no prize in doing anything in game actually.

Salvas_Aren · December 2018

If you have to ask - no.

Enjoy it if you are still around. If you have to come back and even ask - don't do it.

Arthg · December 2018

All the posts in this thread are true.

You and your friends should see for yourselves, there's no other way: it's a very good game that can be immensely frustrating.

Dip a toe, see if you want to take the dive.

jcm2606 · December 2018

Some old bugs exist. Many have been squashed.

Still, does this excuse the fact that bugs discovered years ago still plague the game, without Zenimax even acknowledging they're a thing, let alone doing anything about them?

Lag still exists and always will in any online game. Not ESO specific.

Lag does not exist in the sheer magnitude that ESO's lag does. Many other online games don't magically go from a smooth 250 ping (smooth for Australian internet), all the way to 999+, the same moment that somebody in America receives the exact same spike. (Meaning it isn't on my end.)

Class imbalance still exists because this is an MMO. That's kind of a thing in MMOs. One class is OP one month, another the next. Just because it exists doesn't mean the devs do nothing about it.

The problem isn't Zenimax doing nothing about it. The problem is Zenimax is too incompetent to actually balance the game. Just look at any patch notes in the last year and a half. Just look at the class rep meeting notes. The meeting notes say one thing, the patch notes say a completely different thing.

Cheaters exist because they are cheaters. Again, you're going to find them everywhere. You can't get rid of them. All you can do is fight them, which ZoS has done and continues to do.

Completely agree here, so moving on...

You're trying to give the impression that ESO is garbage and the devs refuse to do anything about it because all they just don't care. That is far from being the case and it is disingenuous for you to not acknowledge that changes have been made to improve the game. Besides, if you really believed that, then why are you here?

In its current state, ESO is honestly pretty bad.

Don't get me wrong, I love ESO. I love everything about it, except the way Zenimax is managing it. I'm sorry, but Zenimax's job at managing the game is a complete and utter joke. Performance issues going unchecked for years, the utter incompetence with regards to balancing, not even acknowledging bugs that have existed for years (let alone fixing them), complete disregard for the community when it comes to the technical side of the game (which is the most important part of the game, if I'm being honest; pretty questing zones don't mean crap if the game runs and plays like ass), and in general treating ESO as a cash cow rather than a project worth being proud of.

Recent changes to the class reps program, seemingly better communication with regards to balancing (the enchant changes), and some rumours that more frequent balancing and major bug-fixing patches will be coming to PC next year have given me hope for the game, but for the time being, I have moved on.

FatFred · December 2018

PC version is much better you can use alot of useful awesome addons

mague · December 2018

jcm2606 wrote: »

if I'm being honest; pretty questing zones don't mean crap if the game runs and plays like ass), and in general treating ESO as a cash cow rather than a project worth being proud of.

Just for the records. Tamriel unlimited was a different game. Someone/something forced them to change the game. What makes you think that they are proud to be everyones coding slave ?

The Uninvited · December 2018

mague wrote: »

jcm2606 wrote: »

if I'm being honest; pretty questing zones don't mean crap if the game runs and plays like ass), and in general treating ESO as a cash cow rather than a project worth being proud of.

Just for the records. Tamriel unlimited was a different game. Someone/something forced them to change the game. What makes you think that they are proud to be everyones coding slave ?

Because we pay them for it?

Curtdogg47 · December 2018

I still enjoy the game. It has its problems and issues for sure. But over all I still find the game fun and enjoyable to play.

Hoolielulu · December 2018

I play PS4 and I love it. I see PVP (Vivec) bursting a lot and I enjoy the community.

But I'd be on PC if I had/could afford it. Addons.

starkerealm · December 2018

This specific moment in the game is a bit rough. There're issues with the current event and the dungeon finder, the last major patch curbed some cheese and players who were dependant on that are throwing tantrums, and there is some weird latency issue in the last few months, which seems to be from an external service.

On the other hand, the game has matured amazingly in the past couple years, so it is absolutely worth coming back and looking around again.

Odovacar · December 2018

PS4 community is large and has a lot of good people to play along with. Zones are very populated Cyrodiil is usually packed and there are many good guilds to choose from. Every platform has their good and bad, but i'd say PS4 has more good than bad. Give it a shot!

kathandira · December 2018

ared89 wrote: »

Hi everyone,

It's been a while since I left the game (about 2 years) and now me and my mates are thinking about coming back, this time on PS4.

How is the game in general and how is it like to play on PS4? Is the community bigger there? Is the game worth buying again and come back at all?

Thank you for your input!

Game is still great. Population on PS4 is still good. Still plenty of content, and more being added all the time.

Currently the Undaunted Event is live, and many are salty due to the issues with the Dungeon Queue not working at times. So opinions may not be favorable at this moment, but looking past that, the game is still going strong.

If ya'll are looking for a guild, hit me up on PS4 @fizzlepop-531

FrancisCrawford · December 2018

The new overworld content can be good. The Summerset region, IMO, is indeed awesome.

Endgame instances are generally "Move in the correct ways to avoid being one-shotted".

I don't PvP enough to comment on that part.

Lord_Eomer · December 2018

cambergang wrote: »

Not worth it to be honest I’m just waiting for the next game I can sink my time in. Nothing ever get fixed, the community isn’t that bad.

ESO is doing much better than 2 Years back and worth revisiting. Few players always feel offended and not happy about anything.

Shantu · December 2018

The game is pretty amazing in many respects. The company that manages and develops it? Not so much. You only have to look at the never-ending fiasco with the dungeon finder which an entire event is built around to make you question competence or desire. ZOS doesn't help with it's mute response. So you'll have to take your enjoyment with an unfortunate dose of frustration.

SugaComa · December 2018

EU server shor ... AD need you ... So yeah come back n have some fun

Aixy · December 2018

@ared89 Now is worst... I'm starting to hate this game... you should try Fallout 76.... oh no wait... dont do that....

jircris11 · December 2018

jcm2606 wrote: »

Some old bugs exist. Many have been squashed.

Still, does this excuse the fact that bugs discovered years ago still plague the game, without Zenimax even acknowledging they're a thing, let alone doing anything about them?

Lag still exists and always will in any online game. Not ESO specific.

Lag does not exist in the sheer magnitude that ESO's lag does. Many other online games don't magically go from a smooth 250 ping (smooth for Australian internet), all the way to 999+, the same moment that somebody in America receives the exact same spike. (Meaning it isn't on my end.)

Class imbalance still exists because this is an MMO. That's kind of a thing in MMOs. One class is OP one month, another the next. Just because it exists doesn't mean the devs do nothing about it.

The problem isn't Zenimax doing nothing about it. The problem is Zenimax is too incompetent to actually balance the game. Just look at any patch notes in the last year and a half. Just look at the class rep meeting notes. The meeting notes say one thing, the patch notes say a completely different thing.

Cheaters exist because they are cheaters. Again, you're going to find them everywhere. You can't get rid of them. All you can do is fight them, which ZoS has done and continues to do.

Completely agree here, so moving on...

You're trying to give the impression that ESO is garbage and the devs refuse to do anything about it because all they just don't care. That is far from being the case and it is disingenuous for you to not acknowledge that changes have been made to improve the game. Besides, if you really believed that, then why are you here?

In its current state, ESO is honestly pretty bad.

Don't get me wrong, I love ESO. I love everything about it, except the way Zenimax is managing it. I'm sorry, but Zenimax's job at managing the game is a complete and utter joke. Performance issues going unchecked for years, the utter incompetence with regards to balancing, not even acknowledging bugs that have existed for years (let alone fixing them), complete disregard for the community when it comes to the technical side of the game (which is the most important part of the game, if I'm being honest; pretty questing zones don't mean crap if the game runs and plays like ass), and in general treating ESO as a cash cow rather than a project worth being proud of.

Recent changes to the class reps program, seemingly better communication with regards to balancing (the enchant changes), and some rumours that more frequent balancing and major bug-fixing patches will be coming to PC next year have given me hope for the game, but for the time being, I have moved on.

You have not played black desert online then have you lol. It if EVERY MMO I have played the past six months eso tensions one of my top ones, sure it has bugs, lag, cheaters what MMO does not. Zos has been working their heart out and honestly your reply shows a lack of understanding of the development and big fix process. I won't fault you for it as most people don't understand it unless they have been in the devs shoes. This event is crap, that I will admit. Any event that forced you to use a tool that they can't seem to find is bad. Much like the PVP event. But they also release tons of good events too. As for the OP I trimmed just jumping back in for a bit and seeing for your self.

swippy · December 2018

isn't there a "Free Play" event coming up?

if you have HD space, come see for yourself in a day or two. if you like it buy a license.

Myrm · December 2018

Should we return?

To be honest that’s only a question you can answer in the end. What I love about the game, you may hate. What you may love, I may hate.

If you still have the game then the thing to do is load it up and see for yourself. You won’t have lost any money. In that way you won’t get bias answers, but instead you’ll get first hand knowledge. If you do need to purchase it again, then do so. You can always sell it on (I think >.<)

However, if you want my answer to your question; yes, it’s worth coming back as I love the game, and I am having a jolly good time with it.

Roztlin45 · December 2018

Find another game to invest in. People are moving away from this Game company in mass for what they have done lately with the fallout 76 cash grab. The cat is out of the bag. They are not to be trusted, "By their fruits you shall know them!"

ezio45 · December 2018

To everyone saying this game has gotten better over the last to yrs, personally I disagree.

We probably have more nice "features" now but overall as a whole id say its worse.

As for the OP's question, im on ps4.

Id say overall game population is good and most of that population is kind, respectful and helpful

performance, not going to say its the worse its ever been but its up there. Definitely not good

Pvp population and pvp in general is the worst ive seen since i started playing eso. What population there is just joins the winning side and farms ap. Full heavy armor zergs are a problem too, im a fan of large scale pvp. The size of the grp isnt the problem, its the makeup of the grps. There use to be a good mixture of builds. But heavy armor really is the best option across all builds with really no downside. dealling with 20 tanks with decent dps and 4 bombers isnt fun.

Trials are a mixed bag. The population is healthy but its got some of the most toxic players. Dps really is a deciding factor if you are going to be allowed to run in groups. There are some nice players to willing to help and run things for fun but they are hard to fined.

Dungeons. you arnt pugging a vet dlc dungeon. your just not. Dont waste your 8 hr.

overland players are very nice and helpful with things like world boss and dolmen help

Not exclusive to ps4 but game balance is the worst its ever been.