Is this a good setup for NB Siphoner?

blaster117 · April 2014

Not really sure if my current action bar is any good:
Khajiit: Dual Daggers, Medium Armour

Swallow Soul (agony?)
Crippling Strikes (cripple)
Siphoning Strikes
Blood Craze
Rapid Strikes (flurry)

Basically, I want to focus on a blend between solid dps and decent self heals. I need something for PVE and PVP but I have no idea how good my current setup is because this is my first character. Any tips or opinions would be greatly appreciated.

Additionally, With this setup I am not sure which attributes to focus on, should I be going all out on magicka or a blend between stamina and magicka?

blaster117 · April 2014

no one?

Slyfe · April 2014

For PvP are you going to use another set for CC/Gap closing? I know you have Cripple. but is that going to be enough to close in on someone trying to kite the hell out of you? That would be the biggest question I would have just looking at the small part of the build you've shown. I like where you're head is at though as my favorite class in an MMO was the "OP" Disciple of Khaine from Warhammer Online and you've started to capture that concept pretty well here.

xxslam48xxb14_ESO · April 2014

I tried something similiar and I feel it just doesnt heal enough to be useful. For pve its going to work for quests, but in a dungeon if a boss attacks you most of the time its not going to out heal its damage. I dont know about pvp, but i would imagine players are going to hit too much for it to work. Plus they will be stunning you alot so getting hits off with siphoning strikes will be harder.

If you want to survive a boss i find that cripple plus agony with a bow is extremely good for surviving boss agro. Ive managed several times to solo a boss after the rest of the group died. I definently have a better time with siphoning strikes when im using a bow even if its slower hitting you wont be taking as much damage so the healing doesnt need to be as high.

blaster117 · April 2014

xxslam48xxb14_ESO wrote: »

I tried something similiar and I feel it just doesnt heal enough to be useful. For pve its going to work for quests, but in a dungeon if a boss attacks you most of the time its not going to out heal its damage. I dont know about pvp, but i would imagine players are going to hit too much for it to work. Plus they will be stunning you alot so getting hits off with siphoning strikes will be harder.

If you want to survive a boss i find that cripple plus agony with a bow is extremely good for surviving boss agro. Ive managed several times to solo a boss after the rest of the group died. I definently have a better time with siphoning strikes when im using a bow even if its slower hitting you wont be taking as much damage so the healing doesnt need to be as high.

Is there any way I can fix up these problems with my setup without scrapping my dual wield? I have been getting up my smithing, not my woodworking so switching weapons kind of puts me off. Is there perhaps some hybrid approach I could take?

cazlonb16_ESO · April 2014

Are you lvl 15 yet ? You get a weapon swap like in Guild Wars 2 then, so you can add a ranged weapon or a melee one with a gap closer

blaster117 · April 2014

cazlonb16_ESO wrote: »

Are you lvl 15 yet ? You get a weapon swap like in Guild Wars 2 then, so you can add a ranged weapon or a melee one with a gap
closer

lvl 20 as of now, i am just not interested in using two different weapons.

Lynx7386 · April 2014

You can put dual wield weapons on both of your bars to give yourself a greater selection of abilities to use in combat. I'd suggest putting teleport strike on one of them as your gap closer.

xxslam48xxb14_ESO · April 2014

blaster117 wrote: »

xxslam48xxb14_ESO wrote: »

I tried something similiar and I feel it just doesnt heal enough to be useful. For pve its going to work for quests, but in a dungeon if a boss attacks you most of the time its not going to out heal its damage. I dont know about pvp, but i would imagine players are going to hit too much for it to work. Plus they will be stunning you alot so getting hits off with siphoning strikes will be harder.

If you want to survive a boss i find that cripple plus agony with a bow is extremely good for surviving boss agro. Ive managed several times to solo a boss after the rest of the group died. I definently have a better time with siphoning strikes when im using a bow even if its slower hitting you wont be taking as much damage so the healing doesnt need to be as high.

Is there any way I can fix up these problems with my setup without scrapping my dual wield? I have been getting up my smithing, not my woodworking so switching weapons kind of puts me off. Is there perhaps some hybrid approach I could take?

I guess you could try heavy armor. I havent tried it out with all the healing abilities, but the extra survivability might be enough to make the healing work. You would probably just be a tank at that point though. Heavy armor has a passive where it heals more when it wears more heavy armor pieces. It sounds pretty appealing to a self healing spec. I kinda want to try it out myself now that I think about it more, if you played world of warcraft and ever faced a blood death knight you would know what im talking about.

There is another healing ability in the mage's guild tree that i never tried, but maybe its morph where you heal when hitting a target that is effected by it would push the healing high enough to be useful. That would also require losing damage from rapid strikes. Since you dont want to use a bow I guess having two sets of dual wield, one with all healing abilities and one with damage/cc/gap closers.