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Merge servers

rexagamemnon
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@ZOS_GinaBruno is there any chances that the European and NA servers will be merged? I understand if Xbox,PS4, and PC/Mac are not merged even though they should be merged to. Also if they will never be merged will there ever be a chance to move content from one server to the next?
  • Skander
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    @ZOS_GinaBruno is there any chances that the European and NA servers will be merged? I understand if Xbox,PS4, and PC/Mac are not merged even though they should be merged to. Also if they will never be merged will there ever be a chance to move content from one server to the next?

    Way too much lag
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  • Gythral
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    Not paying to play on a server with 300ms+ lag, when the current EU server is already slower than anyone else's US only one!
    So 'Hell No' to this
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  • Royaji
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    No and no.

    A merged server will have *** ping for one of the sides (or both if you want to put somewhere in the middle of the Atalantic ocean). Having them separated allows one server to be in Texas and one in Germany to minimize ping.

    And the whole server transfer thing is well explained in support articles. Was only done once since tables were empty. Can not be done on existing servers and there are no plans to build capability to do that.
  • rexagamemnon
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    Royaji wrote: »
    No and no.

    A merged server will have *** ping for one of the sides (or both if you want to put somewhere in the middle of the Atalantic ocean). Having them separated allows one server to be in Texas and one in Germany to minimize ping.

    And the whole server transfer thing is well explained in support articles. Was only done once since tables were empty. Can not be done on existing servers and there are no plans to build capability to do that.

    im not very tech savy, can you explain in more detail what a "ping" is?
  • SHADOW2KK
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    Worst idea ever, the lag would be horrific, not to mention a million other issues, considering how inept ZoS are at current issues.

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  • Royaji
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    Royaji wrote: »
    No and no.

    A merged server will have *** ping for one of the sides (or both if you want to put somewhere in the middle of the Atalantic ocean). Having them separated allows one server to be in Texas and one in Germany to minimize ping.

    And the whole server transfer thing is well explained in support articles. Was only done once since tables were empty. Can not be done on existing servers and there are no plans to build capability to do that.

    im not very tech savy, can you explain in more detail what a "ping" is?

    Ping is latency between you and the server. Information you send to the server (say activating an ability) does not travel instantly. It takes some time and the farther the server is the longer it will take. A european will usually have 150-200 ms ping to a server in NA (with ESO more like 250-300 ms). This is a noticeable delay that makes reactive actions a lot slower and makes the game feel sluggish and unresponsive. Because of that every company tries to minimize ping for their players and has servers in different locations.

    This way European servers are located in Germany and NA ones are in Texas. You can't merge them without merging the servers physically which means either leaving them only in Texas (EU will have high ping) or in Germany (NA will have high ping). If you were to put them somewhere inbetween (like in the middle of the ocean) the ping will be pretty bad for both sides.
  • chaz
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    Actually these guys really ought to place a server in Hawaii for the Oceanic people.

    These people are billionaires. They can afford to.

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  • rexagamemnon
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    @Royaji Im in Virginia Beach, Virginia,USA and i dont notice any lag when i play on the Euro server.
    Edited by rexagamemnon on November 24, 2018 8:10PM
  • Royaji
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    @Royaji Im in Virginia Beach, Virginia,USA and i dont notice any lag when i play on the Euro server.

    The fact that you do not notice it (do not consider it improtant in content you are playing) does not cancel physics.
  • zaria
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    SHADOW2KK wrote: »
    Worst idea ever, the lag would be horrific, not to mention a million other issues, considering how inept ZoS are at current issues.
    This, we all know how dungeon finder and the BG finder tend to bug out during load and being an train wreck during events.
    Double the number of players and that would be the new standard with it crashing in weekends event style

    Add the increased lag and its an extremely bad idea.
    Letting Khajiit put an dagger on the end of their tail on the other hand would be an good one.

    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
  • rexagamemnon
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    @ZOS_GinaBruno Does anyone know what the cost associated from a business perspective would be if ZOS were to implement this?
  • Katahdin
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    Good Lord NO!

    Ping is bad enough as it is for me in Cyrodiil and I am in the U.S. (NY to Texas).
    I am on a 100MB ISP and a fairly high end computer and I still get pings over 200 some nights.

    The EU players I have come across that choose to play on the NA server often say how bad the ping is.
    If they merge and put it in EU, people in California probably wont be able to play any more.

    SO NO, NO THANK YOU.
    Edited by Katahdin on November 24, 2018 8:52PM
    Beta tester November 2013
  • zaria
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    @ZOS_GinaBruno Does anyone know what the cost associated from a business perspective would be if ZOS were to implement this?
    Its pretty easy to calculate, they would save some money with one data center over 2, they would initially need just as many servers. However they will lose an significant faction of EU players because of increased lag and other issues. They will also loose plenty of US players as the dungeon and BG finder would not work, add lots of other issues.
    If lucky they retain the number higher than currently playing on US server.

    Yes at one time in the future the server will be merged this is likely 8 year or something away.
    At the current state of game I would not merge PS and Xbox even if both sides had agreed on universal cross-play

    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
  • Tandor
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    As yet, nobody - including the OP - has given a single reason to merge the servers, let alone a valid one.
  • TheInfernalRage
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    This will be a disaster. Lag fest.
  • zaria
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    Tandor wrote: »
    As yet, nobody - including the OP - has given a single reason to merge the servers, let alone a valid one.
    Only reason I see is more active PvP servers, still most would flock to one making queue times many times longer.
    Spell strategist type gear is an better solution :)

    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
  • Stebarnz
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    everyone talking about ping?
    Merge the servers but actually use a good server with correct software to cut the ping down, not crappy servers full of potatoes with the worst operating software currently available.
    If they did it right they could merge and it would be fine for everyone, the EU server has the worst performance by far I think they stopped funding or secretly moved it back to U.S. and dropped it.
  • idk
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    Zos would not say they would ever consider merging the NA and EU servers. Besides there being no reason to even reply to such a question they could not say yes because that would just open up all sorts of conspiracy as to when.

    So yes, just pointless for Zos to reply.

    Zos already had server mergers, in sorts. When Zos put all factions in the same zones that was effectively a server merger since it allowed them to reduce the hardware required. Before then at least 3 virtual servers were needed to run a zone even if only one player was in each zone.

    Before that Zos started allowing grouping across factions for PvE instances that was due to lower population.

    BTW, if Zos every did merge the NA and EU servers it would be a sign of desperation due to lower populations across the boards. If the game did get that bad I do not think many of us would still be around,.
  • Ertosi
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    No, but for reasons other than what's already been posted. During the big psijic event, like many players I left the comfort of the PC NA server to visit Summerset on the PC Eu server. During my stay there everyone I met was incredibly friendly, helpful and fun. Truly some of the nicest gamers I've met. We don't need that on PC NA. Please keep the servers separate!
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  • zaria
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    Stebarnz wrote: »
    everyone talking about ping?
    Merge the servers but actually use a good server with correct software to cut the ping down, not crappy servers full of potatoes with the worst operating software currently available.
    If they did it right they could merge and it would be fine for everyone, the EU server has the worst performance by far I think they stopped funding or secretly moved it back to U.S. and dropped it.
    This one ask who planet you live on, how many moons does it have.

    Khajiit suspect Stebarnz live on an moon, she has been many places.

    No the servers would not magical improve, they would be the same potatoes with double load until stuff died down

    Rater than fantasy, uplift Zaria as the head of the Pantheon and she would make most stuff right.
    No more spell power cure bows on the other hand if you steamroll the dungeon most enemies will pull back to the last boss.
    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
  • mook-eb16_ESO
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    I'm pretty sure the physical server has never been in Europe it's just a vpn tunnel from Frankfurt to the us.
  • MattT1988
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    This would be disastrous for the performance of the game. Stop suggesting it.
  • frostz417
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    I’m assuming you’re asking for merge because your server is dead?
    X box EU is very close to a dead server so I can see why people want to leave. However this isn’t the solution would rather they just let people transfer their accounts to different platforms/servers
  • Banana
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    :D More. Not less server options
  • freespirit
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    I'm pretty sure the physical server has never been in Europe it's just a vpn tunnel from Frankfurt to the us.

    Well whatever it is my ping is great to Frankfurt(or wherever the EU server is) so I won't complain >:)

    Personally I believe it is located in Frankfurt :)
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  • Moonsorrow
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    No.

    I usually like to explain (way too much) on why, but this time.. i think that says it all.
  • DirkRavenclaw
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    No Thank you, the EU Server is my alternative. I play on booth, Im based in Europe but on NA is more going on, so i have 10 toons cp898 on NA, there i have a minimum of 200 latency, on EU 100 latency
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  • SHADOW2KK
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    Moonsorrow wrote: »
    No.

    I usually like to explain (way too much) on why, but this time.. i think that says it all.

    Hehe it is to the point, awesomed
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