[snip] traitors! [[Vivec EU, pc]]

MirkoZ · November 2018

What the hell is up with each and every coward player switching to Yellows just because those guys happen to be more?
Is ESO pvp turning into some fascist parade, in which the most numerous army is joined by everyone and then they all together go beating up Reds (and Blues as well, but that's beyond the point) ?

[Edit thread title for censor bypass.]

Jimmy · November 2018

Gosh, I wish the Yellow's were more populated on my server.

MirkoZ · November 2018

That's why I highlighted the server I play on, homie ^^

rumple9 · November 2018

Yellows don't play on vivec after 6pm they only play in the day 9am - 6pm when other populations are low and hence win every campaign by holding all the scrolls for 9 hours

Heimpai · November 2018

rumple9 wrote: »

Yellows don't play on vivec after 6pm they only play in the day 9am - 6pm when other populations are low and hence win every campaign by holding all the scrolls for 9 hours

What campaign is that?

red_emu · November 2018

Move to sotha sil. During the day the map is entirely red or if you like playing blue, then DC is great as nightcapping the map too

MirkoZ · November 2018

red_emu wrote: »

Move to sotha sil. During the day the map is entirely red or if you like playing blue, then DC is great as nightcapping the map too

No Champion Points there

Kharret · November 2018

Jimmy wrote: »

Gosh, I wish the Yellow's were more populated on my server.

I wish they were less populated, because I have to wait to enter Cyro at high time in Vivec EU PC, too many red traitors in queue

Jhalin · November 2018

Since the only point of cyro is getting AP, I don’t see why people care about anyone playing different characters in the same campaign. It makes no difference in the end

Bosov · November 2018

Jhalin wrote: »

Since the only point of cyro is getting AP, I don’t see why people care about anyone playing different characters in the same campaign. It makes no difference in the end

Who cares about AP... i would play without gaining AP if it would actually be fun. However being chased, zerged, procced and killed by big groups isnt fun..

MirkoZ · November 2018

Jhalin wrote: »

Since the only point of cyro is getting AP, I don’t see why people care about anyone playing different characters in the same campaign. It makes no difference in the end

I think it makes the game way less balanced and, at last, way less fun.
It's not just about mindless winning, or at least that's what I like to think.

rexagamemnon · November 2018

im on xbox, seems like pvp is turning into a ghost town

AllPlayAndNoWork · November 2018

#AlwaysBlue

Runs · November 2018

Faction loyalty is a rarity.

Jhalin · November 2018

MirkoZ wrote: »

Jhalin wrote: »

Since the only point of cyro is getting AP, I don’t see why people care about anyone playing different characters in the same campaign. It makes no difference in the end

I think it makes the game way less balanced and, at last, way less fun.
It's not just about mindless winning, or at least that's what I like to think.

There’s no balance with everyone being locked to one campaign either. Then you just get a massive pop imbalance and lock people out of playing completely when their alliance is capped.

Nothing you do in cyro will have any impact that lasts more than fifteen, that’s the nature of its design. That’s why Cyro PvP in this game sucks. BGs are at least self contained, reflective experiences that end with a distinct outcome. Meanwhile in Cyro you can take the entire map but then the map has flipped again in the next hour.

Take a keep? Gone in ten minutes after you’ve been fought off.

Brought back a scroll? Gone the next day along with your home scrolls.

Killed an enemy? They’re back to fight you a minute later.

What exactly is the appeal supposed to be?

rumple9 · November 2018

Jhalin wrote: »

Since the only point of cyro is getting AP, I don’t see why people care about anyone playing different characters in the same campaign. It makes no difference in the end

End of campaign rewards

NupidStoob · November 2018

Some enforced balance would be great tbh.

On PC EU move all those excess zerging EP from Sotha to Vivec or the AD from Vivec to Sotha to get some resemblance of balance. Sadly I guess blues are lacking numbers? Unless they are all on Shor that is.

Biro123 · November 2018

NupidStoob wrote: »

Some enforced balance would be great tbh.

On PC EU move all those excess zerging EP from Sotha to Vivec or the AD from Vivec to Sotha to get some resemblance of balance. Sadly I guess blues are lacking numbers? Unless they are all on Shor that is.

I've kind of suggested that queueing for a full server automatically puts you in one an emptier one for your faction while you wait.. could help a bit with imbalances enough for it to hit critical mass, and ultimately even things out.. ofc that does nothing for where the problem really is - off-peak, and the disproportionate effect that a relatively small number of people can have on the overall campaign score.

Shantu · November 2018

Big armies win and most people would prefer joining one than to be repetitive AP fodder. Safety in numbers.That's life. They get to run around and do pretty much nothing and rack up the AP. I just wish ZOS would show a little AP love for taking them on. Sneaking around perimeters for an occasional gank or accepting an inevitable death by taking on the mob, all for naught, gets old.

You could do a sociological study of mob mentality on these PVP servers. The blood lust with which 20 people will attack 1 lone player is bizarre. Not much ZOS can do about it. Just human nature. Just wish the brave soul who takes them on would win more than the choice of where to rez.

vamp_emily · November 2018

If DC would have treated me like the queen I am then I would have been loyal till the end. I have no interest in being loyal to any faction that treats me like trash. The faction that treats me like a queen will get my heart, but until then I am a free-agent not a coward.

NupidStoob · November 2018

Jhalin wrote: »

Since the only point of cyro is getting AP, I don’t see why people care about anyone playing different characters in the same campaign. It makes no difference in the end

So the point of playing this game is to farm currency and not to actually have fun and enjoy our time? So all non PvP you do is just to farm gold?

Might be true for you, but don't act as if that's the universally agreed on goal.

@Biro123 Sounds like a good suggestion, but then there is the problem with no CP and CP. It's actually quite annoying that the community gets split by game mechanics like that.

MirkoZ · November 2018

How about making people join only once the factions are tied in numbers? (I.e. if there're 10 from each, people will join only once there's one queueing player per army)

Tan9oSuccka · November 2018

red_emu wrote: »

Move to sotha sil. During the day the map is entirely red or if you like playing blue, then DC is great as nightcapping the map too

LOL. They used to do this on PS4 in SS.

Now, it’s a permanent blue and yellow zerg with the Emp group hunting reds at Kingscrest resources.

Prof_Bawbag · November 2018

Jhalin wrote: »

Since the only point of cyro is getting AP, I don’t see why people care about anyone playing different characters in the same campaign. It makes no difference in the end

That's akin to saying the only point to PvE is to make gold.

cazlonb16_ESO · November 2018

MirkoZ wrote: »

That's why I highlighted the server I play on, homie ^^

Must have misspelled it then. On PC EU Vivec AD win because of PvDooring in off hours, during prime time Smurfs zerg everything down. Whoops, sorry, I meant legions of solo smurfs coincidentally happen to be in the same place, cos they never zerg. My bad.

Biro123 · November 2018

cazlonb16_ESO wrote: »

MirkoZ wrote: »

That's why I highlighted the server I play on, homie ^^

Must have misspelled it then. On PC EU Vivec AD win because of PvDooring in off hours, during prime time Smurfs zerg everything down. Whoops, sorry, I meant legions of solo smurfs coincidentally happen to be in the same place, cos they never zerg. My bad.

And don't you forget it!

xxthir13enxx · November 2018

Feckin' traitors! Vivec EU, pc

Just curious...but does anyone else magically become Irish reading the title of this post?

Bosov · November 2018

Shantu wrote: »

Big armies win and most people would prefer joining one than to be repetitive AP fodder. Safety in numbers.That's life. They get to run around and do pretty much nothing and rack up the AP. I just wish ZOS would show a little AP love for taking them on. Sneaking around perimeters for an occasional gank or accepting an inevitable death by taking on the mob, all for naught, gets old.

You could do a sociological study of mob mentality on these PVP servers. The blood lust with which 20 people will attack 1 lone player is bizarre. Not much ZOS can do about it. Just human nature. Just wish the brave soul who takes them on would win more than the choice of where to rez.

You cant do that though because if you ask them if they had fun and why they chased you, you will get "u mad?", "rage? blocked" replies. I asked a lot of people what fun it was for them to chase me with 10+ people and kill me by just pressing the snipe button over and over while im fighting other people...

Somehow the zergmentality of people is so strong that they enjoy it. The YES BOYZZZ we got him 10v1 we the cool kidzzz in Cyrodill moment must be like a drugs for many of them.

It was possible to take on multiple people once upon a time.. those people who died to the solo player didnt like it. They complained and after that zos gave them all the tools to kill that lonely player. They already had the numbers advantage but they also needed easy to proc damage sets which had no or almost no counter.

Now you can only solo kill multiple other players if they are afk, braindead, naked, no cp noobs and you play a stamblade...

Grimm13 · November 2018

Only balancing act on numbers I can see ZOS doing would be to add in a AP bonus incentive for lower population. The Greater the imbalance, the greater the bonus. They could only encourage players to self balance.

Zos can not really impose a balance, they can't even balance pve vs pvp builds.

cazlonb16_ESO · November 2018

Right now there are maybe 15-20 active AD in the campaign, the rest logged on their smurf or red AP farming toons, like most evenings.

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