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SERIOUSLY Fix the CC on Draining Shot
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Fur_like_snow✭✭✭✭✭
✭Old bug but since the skill was buffed you’re seeing more people using it. Why oh why it needed a 28m range I’ll never understand.0 -
Gilvoth✭✭✭✭✭
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personally, i simply don't believe the complaints this thread,
i don't see it happen when i use it on people.
people break free immediately when i cast it on them and i don't see anyone having this problem at all.
its not broken, i think it's just that these guys complain about this because they cant get close to us archers as fast as before.
they can still reach us, just not instantly like they could previously and they want make threads about it to remove this skill so they can return to insta killing people in 4 hits within one second like what their used to.
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Gilvoth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭every single CC in this game is the same and almost impossible to get out of but all of a sudden this particular one the forums are demand it gets removed lol.3 -
JobooAGS✭✭✭✭✭
✭Fur_like_snow wrote: »Old bug but since the skill was buffed you’re seeing more people using it. Why oh why it needed a 28m range I’ll never understand.
Bow/bow builds are very squishy as their heals are weaker than a 2h or dw build due to having less weapon damage , and they do not have damage shields. Their only heals are vigor, class heals (if appilcable) and draining shot. Also, long range syrengiezes well with bow builds due to their passives0 -
Gilvoth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭people currently in eso hate us archers and they will do anything to get our skills nerfed, removed, and make us dead within 1 second during pvp.
thats really what this is all about.
not about the cc.
Edited by Gilvoth on November 6, 2018 7:17PM3 -
Gilvoth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Fur_like_snow wrote: »why it needed a 28m range I’ll never understand.
it's meant to keep enemies away from us because we are ranged skills only as archers.
it is meant to keep our enemies at a distance.
Edited by Gilvoth on November 6, 2018 7:16PM3 -
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✭✭Fur_like_snow wrote: »Old bug but since the skill was buffed you’re seeing more people using it. Why oh why it needed a 28m range I’ll never understand.
I poison injection someone roll dodge and run 25 meters over to them to stun.
Imagine if Destro staff had its CC with a 5 meter range.
It’s a bow. It’s used at range. Not melee5 -
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✭✭dwemer_paleologist wrote: »Fur_like_snow wrote: »why it needed a 28m range I’ll never understand.
it's meant to keep enemies away from us because we are ranged skills only as archers.
it is meant to keep our enemies at a distance.
How you, as a squishy archer, dare to have such a tool?!1 -
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✭dwemer_paleologist wrote: »Fur_like_snow wrote: »why it needed a 28m range I’ll never understand.
it's meant to keep enemies away from us because we are ranged skills only as archers.
it is meant to keep our enemies at a distance.
If bow skills had a min-max(8-36m) range I’d be inclined to agree. But every bow skill can be fired at point blank.Edited by Fur_like_snow on November 7, 2018 5:16AM0 -
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✭Fur_like_snow wrote: »Old bug but since the skill was buffed you’re seeing more people using it. Why oh why it needed a 28m range I’ll never understand.
I poison injection someone roll dodge and run 25 meters over to them to stun.
Imagine if Destro staff had its CC with a 5 meter range.
It’s a bow. It’s used at range. Not melee
If that is the case, then why do all of your “range” skills fire at melee distance?0 -
Vapirko✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yeah this *** is so cheesy, idk wtf ZOS was thinking. It’s just another Zerg skill for the most part. Had a few BGs teams who just stand as far away as possible and spam this while their sorc or Templar friends mages wrath and Jesus beam you.5 -
TequilaFire✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭They took the knock back away from the Templar stamina Javelin morph so they increased the range on Draining Shot so stamina builds would still have a knock back with similar range to Javelin. Now every stamina build can have a long range knock back.Edited by TequilaFire on November 7, 2018 1:20PM0 -
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✭Fur_like_snow wrote: »Fur_like_snow wrote: »Old bug but since the skill was buffed you’re seeing more people using it. Why oh why it needed a 28m range I’ll never understand.
I poison injection someone roll dodge and run 25 meters over to them to stun.
Imagine if Destro staff had its CC with a 5 meter range.
It’s a bow. It’s used at range. Not melee
If that is the case, then why do all of your “range” skills fire at melee distance?
You can pick up a bow and shoot it point blank at something no problem.
Any way by that logic, if there is a min range for range skills on bow, then the same should apply for staves1 -
nryerson1025✭✭✭✭I think most people's problem with archers in pvp revolves around latency issues with snipe, as well as the overall shittiness of their playstyles--unwillingness to fight when confronted, tendencies to only leech off the combat of others.
Draining shot has definitely been used on me more often lately but I haven't had any issues with break free. So I'm a little unsure really what needs to be fixed?0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭TequilaFire wrote: »
Not a Zerg in BGs it’s just a Zerg skill, just using as a general terms for no talent skills used by almost all zerging types.2 -
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✭✭✭I wonder if we can play tennis with 2 guys draining shoot someone in the middle.٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶
"I am a nightblade. Blending the disciplines of the stealthy agent and subtle wizard, I move unseen and undetected, foil locks and traps, and teleport to safety when threatened, or strike like a viper from ambush. The College of Illusion hides me and fuddles or pacifies my opponents. The College of Mysticism detects my object, reflects and dispels enemy spells, and makes good my escape. The key to a nightblade's success is avoidance, by spell or by stealth; with these skills, all things are possible."2 -
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✭✭✭Fur_like_snow wrote: »dwemer_paleologist wrote: »Fur_like_snow wrote: »why it needed a 28m range I’ll never understand.
it's meant to keep enemies away from us because we are ranged skills only as archers.
it is meant to keep our enemies at a distance.
If bow skills had a min-max(8-36m) range I’d be inclined to agree. But every bow skill can be fired at point blank.
Snipe used to have a minimum distance, but they changed that at some point.
Legolas also used bow at point blank ranged, so it's legit. He even used an arrow as a melee weapon once to poke out an Orc's eye.
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"I am a nightblade. Blending the disciplines of the stealthy agent and subtle wizard, I move unseen and undetected, foil locks and traps, and teleport to safety when threatened, or strike like a viper from ambush. The College of Illusion hides me and fuddles or pacifies my opponents. The College of Mysticism detects my object, reflects and dispels enemy spells, and makes good my escape. The key to a nightblade's success is avoidance, by spell or by stealth; with these skills, all things are possible."2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Knootewoot wrote: »Fur_like_snow wrote: »dwemer_paleologist wrote: »Fur_like_snow wrote: »why it needed a 28m range I’ll never understand.
it's meant to keep enemies away from us because we are ranged skills only as archers.
it is meant to keep our enemies at a distance.
If bow skills had a min-max(8-36m) range I’d be inclined to agree. But every bow skill can be fired at point blank.
Snipe used to have a minimum distance, but they changed that at some point.
Legolas also used bow at point blank ranged, so it's legit. He even used an arrow as a melee weapon once to poke out an Orc's eye.
But in a more poison injection or LA style, not a vaulted shot like snipe. That would leave you totally open not to mention going way the *** over your target if they were close.0 -
The_Brosteen✭✭✭✭✭The_Brosteen wrote: »Im fairly certain the issue is connected to how the heal works. The caster only recieves the heal once the cc is finished or broken.
They should change the heal to affect the caster immediately and make it stun like javelin does. It could still retain the knockback feature if they really want to. Problem solved.
I'm sure that if anything changes, given enough people complain, they will instead revert the range change, add a cast time, reduce the damage, or do something else that wouldn't be related to the actual issue and implement a change no one asked for or really wants.
I'd enjoy being proven wrong
I've been a heavy user of draining shot for the past weeks and i can tell you that allowing the heal to happen even when targeting a CC immune enemy would make it way too strong.
Sry let me clarify, make the heal proc off a successful stun, not after a cc break.1 -
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MaxJrFTW✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭DCanadianBacon wrote: »I'm actually curious, what's the issue with Draining Shot currently? Is the CC difficult to break free from, like Rune Cage? I don't run into too many people using Draining Shot right now, so I'm legitimately unaware that there was an issue with its CC.
It's a knock back and a 1.5 sec stun. You can't break cc mid air while you're being knocked back, your character is entirely unresponsive. On the other hand the stun is only 1.5 secs, chances are you're not gonna have time to break cc once the knock back is done. Meaning you won't get cc immunity so it can be used repeatedly against you. You can get knocked around 2-3 times in a row before you actually break the stun and gain cc immunity. On top of that, it heals for a lot and does decent damage.
It's broken, and a lot of people are exploiting the crap out of it. It should just get the same treatment of the templar javelin and be a knock down instead of knock back. I guess it was a hidden gem this whole time, but people are finally catching up and realizing it's a broken ability.Edited by MaxJrFTW on November 21, 2018 12:28PM"I don't know you, and I don't care to know you."
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Pastas✭✭✭Knootewoot wrote: »Fur_like_snow wrote: »dwemer_paleologist wrote: »Fur_like_snow wrote: »why it needed a 28m range I’ll never understand.
it's meant to keep enemies away from us because we are ranged skills only as archers.
it is meant to keep our enemies at a distance.
If bow skills had a min-max(8-36m) range I’d be inclined to agree. But every bow skill can be fired at point blank.
Snipe used to have a minimum distance, but they changed that at some point.
Legolas also used bow at point blank ranged, so it's legit. He even used an arrow as a melee weapon once to poke out an Orc's eye.
I love the Legolas argument
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Malamar1229✭✭✭✭✭
✭It's happening with a lot of players, myself included. I seem to have immunity but keep getting CCd by this anyway. It's also really annoying CC1 -
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✭✭dwemer_paleologist wrote: »people currently in eso hate us archers and they will do anything to get our skills nerfed, removed, and make us dead within 1 second during pvp.
thats really what this is all about.
not about the cc.
Because it’s a garbage ass playstyle that requires the least amount of skill and has no drawbacks. You just spam spam spam from 40+ meters away and just cloak if someone even thinks about you6 -
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✭✭✭dwemer_paleologist wrote: »people currently in eso hate us archers and they will do anything to get our skills nerfed, removed, and make us dead within 1 second during pvp.
thats really what this is all about.
not about the cc.
... and just cloak if someone even thinks about you
Not every archer is a nightblade though. I see a lot of Sorcarchers and templarchers running around.٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶
"I am a nightblade. Blending the disciplines of the stealthy agent and subtle wizard, I move unseen and undetected, foil locks and traps, and teleport to safety when threatened, or strike like a viper from ambush. The College of Illusion hides me and fuddles or pacifies my opponents. The College of Mysticism detects my object, reflects and dispels enemy spells, and makes good my escape. The key to a nightblade's success is avoidance, by spell or by stealth; with these skills, all things are possible."1 -
JobooAGS✭✭✭✭✭
✭dwemer_paleologist wrote: »people currently in eso hate us archers and they will do anything to get our skills nerfed, removed, and make us dead within 1 second during pvp.
thats really what this is all about.
not about the cc.
Because it’s a garbage ass playstyle that requires the least amount of skill and has no drawbacks. You just spam spam spam from 40+ meters away and just cloak if someone even thinks about you
Bow/bow builds will also fall over when looked at funny so the best way to play them is to AVOID direct combat. However, the "only use me snipe" builds arent a good way to play them as:
1. Your burst is limited to about 5-7k dps, far less than most builds and you dont use light attacks
2. You can be inturrpted and stunned at any time therefore dead(snipe is a channel)
3. Your whole burst is countered with a block, dodge or shield or 2. Even if you manage to hit 1 or 2 that is still only on average 10-14k damage total before they heal up find and wreck you.1 -
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You, as an archer, have no right to exist and you should die immediately once spotted! How you dare to have defensive measures in any form?!dwemer_paleologist wrote: »personally, i simply don't believe the complaints this thread,
i don't see it happen when i use it on people.
people break free immediately when i cast it on them and i don't see anyone having this problem at all.
its not broken, i think it's just that these guys complain about this because they cant get close to us archers as fast as before.
they can still reach us, just not instantly like they could previously and they want make threads about it to remove this skill so they can return to insta killing people in 4 hits within one second like what their used to.0
