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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861
The next Crown Sale?
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Black Fredas is soon. May we please get a crown sale also soon?
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There is typically a crown sale right around Black Fredas, from what I recall...just keep your eyes open, because that's when it usually appears.
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✭✭Was also wondering if there is likely to be a Crown Sale for Black Friday or thereabouts.
@ZOS_GinaBruno any insider knowledge you care to share?
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Side note: while I don't know precisely why this is, but crown sales are almost never announced prior to the sale. So we really do need to wait and see. I imagine the reasoning might be that they think to both get people who need crowns immediately on full price, and those who want to have a bunch to save for later on the sale. That way they get both markets. But that's only a guess.
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✭✭Was also wondering if there is likely to be a Crown Sale for Black Friday or thereabouts.
@ZOS_GinaBruno any insider knowledge you care to share?
Last year there was no Crown Sale during Black Friday. Instead, they gave us a miserly 20% discount in May.
It seems crown sales seem less frequent and offer lower discountsAll my housing builds are available on YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCf3oJ_cxuu01HmWZJZ6KK6g?view_as=subscriber
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Acrolas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Last year there was no Crown Sale during Black Friday. Instead, they gave us a miserly 20% discount in May.
It seems crown sales seem less frequent and offer lower discounts
You're forgetting the 2017 Holiday Sale, which started on the third week of December and extended into 2018.
https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/26273
Also, 20% isn't miserly. 20% is what is typically considered an average to above average retail sales discount.
I'm okay with 20%. I feel the 40% to 50% discount range was problematic and unnecessary for the currency.signing off3 -
Aluneth✭✭✭✭Last year there was no Crown Sale during Black Friday. Instead, they gave us a miserly 20% discount in May.
It seems crown sales seem less frequent and offer lower discounts
You're forgetting the 2017 Holiday Sale, which started on the third week of December and extended into 2018.
https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/26273
Also, 20% isn't miserly. 20% is what is typically considered an average to above average retail sales discount.
I'm okay with 20%. I feel the 40% to 50% discount range was problematic and unnecessary for the currency.
I can't even begin to imagine what type of person you are outside of this game. You feel that a 50% discount was problematic and unnecessary? That a 20% discount is much better? When you've had 50% for years, then yes going down to 20% is miserly.22 -
Acrolas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I can't even begin to imagine what type of person you are outside of this game.
Somebody who recognizes that ZOS made the initial sales a little too good as part of their way of marketing and promoting the store. But now we're at a point where the store is established and I believe based on supporting reports from guilds and individuals that ZOS is satisfied with their non-discount crown pack sales volume.
And I recognize the other half of the equation. More stockpiling during substantial discounts leads to devaluation of the currency which leads to proportionate price increases on individual store items. Sales are nice. Small sales are still nice.
I'm much more interested in managing inflation than appeasing those who aren't willing and/or able to buy crowns at their standard pricing.signing off4 -
Aluneth✭✭✭✭I can't even begin to imagine what type of person you are outside of this game.
Somebody who recognizes that ZOS made the initial sales a little too good as part of their way of marketing and promoting the store. But now we're at a point where the store is established and I believe based on supporting reports from guilds and individuals that ZOS is satisfied with their non-discount crown pack sales volume.
And I recognize the other half of the equation. More stockpiling during substantial discounts leads to devaluation of the currency which leads to proportionate price increases on individual store items. Sales are nice. Small sales are still nice.
I'm much more interested in managing inflation than appeasing those who aren't willing and/or able to buy crowns at their standard pricing.
Except the little part that you seem to have missed. The prices on the items in the shop keeps going up even after the change to 20%. Take a look at some of the mount/pet/house prices that have came the last year, and compare them to earlier prices. So at the end of the day, we get less and pay more. If you compare ESO prices to other MMO games, ESO's prices are 2x or even 4x that of others. You'll find NOTHING in WoW that costs you 100+ euros for a single item/transaction. If anything, the 50% sale should have been the BASE price for crowns.Edited by Aluneth on November 5, 2018 4:34PM14 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I can't even begin to imagine what type of person you are outside of this game.
Somebody who recognizes that ZOS made the initial sales a little too good as part of their way of marketing and promoting the store. But now we're at a point where the store is established and I believe based on supporting reports from guilds and individuals that ZOS is satisfied with their non-discount crown pack sales volume.
And I recognize the other half of the equation. More stockpiling during substantial discounts leads to devaluation of the currency which leads to proportionate price increases on individual store items. Sales are nice. Small sales are still nice.
I'm much more interested in managing inflation than appeasing those who aren't willing and/or able to buy crowns at their standard pricing.
So then tell me why the Hunter's Glade house, unfurnished, costs more than the entire game?CP2,000 Master Explorer - AvA One Star General - Console Peasant - The Clan
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✭✭✭I can't even begin to imagine what type of person you are outside of this game.
Somebody who recognizes that ZOS made the initial sales a little too good as part of their way of marketing and promoting the store. But now we're at a point where the store is established and I believe based on supporting reports from guilds and individuals that ZOS is satisfied with their non-discount crown pack sales volume.
And I recognize the other half of the equation. More stockpiling during substantial discounts leads to devaluation of the currency which leads to proportionate price increases on individual store items. Sales are nice. Small sales are still nice.
I'm much more interested in managing inflation than appeasing those who aren't willing and/or able to buy crowns at their standard pricing.
So then tell me why the Hunter's Glade house, unfurnished, costs more than the entire game?
So you want them to charge more for the game?
Btw, the reason is because there are people who will pay that and they don't need to sell a ton. They need to sell a ton of base games.Edited by DaveMoeDee on November 5, 2018 6:07PM0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭DaveMoeDee wrote: »I can't even begin to imagine what type of person you are outside of this game.
Somebody who recognizes that ZOS made the initial sales a little too good as part of their way of marketing and promoting the store. But now we're at a point where the store is established and I believe based on supporting reports from guilds and individuals that ZOS is satisfied with their non-discount crown pack sales volume.
And I recognize the other half of the equation. More stockpiling during substantial discounts leads to devaluation of the currency which leads to proportionate price increases on individual store items. Sales are nice. Small sales are still nice.
I'm much more interested in managing inflation than appeasing those who aren't willing and/or able to buy crowns at their standard pricing.
So then tell me why the Hunter's Glade house, unfurnished, costs more than the entire game?
So you want them to charge more for the game?
Btw, the reason is because there are people who will pay that and they don't need to sell a ton. They need to sell a ton of base games.
What logic is that? Why should smaller pieces of barely usable content cost more than the entire game?CP2,000 Master Explorer - AvA One Star General - Console Peasant - The Clan
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✭✭✭✭✭DaveMoeDee wrote: »I can't even begin to imagine what type of person you are outside of this game.
Somebody who recognizes that ZOS made the initial sales a little too good as part of their way of marketing and promoting the store. But now we're at a point where the store is established and I believe based on supporting reports from guilds and individuals that ZOS is satisfied with their non-discount crown pack sales volume.
And I recognize the other half of the equation. More stockpiling during substantial discounts leads to devaluation of the currency which leads to proportionate price increases on individual store items. Sales are nice. Small sales are still nice.
I'm much more interested in managing inflation than appeasing those who aren't willing and/or able to buy crowns at their standard pricing.
So then tell me why the Hunter's Glade house, unfurnished, costs more than the entire game?
So you want them to charge more for the game?
Btw, the reason is because there are people who will pay that and they don't need to sell a ton. They need to sell a ton of base games.
What logic is that? Why should smaller pieces of barely usable content cost more than the entire game?
The price is the price. Deal with it or wait for a sail. You will not get any advance notice of the sale by any means.0 -
Acrolas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Except the little part that you seem to have missed. The prices on the items in the shop keeps going up even after the change to 20%.
2017's crown pricing and quantity of crowns in circulation affected 2018's crown pricing.
2018's crown pricing will and quantity of crowns in circulation will affect 2019's crown store pricing.
The subscription stipend increase will do more to affect 2020's crown store pricing.
We've seen inflation manifest more in additional price tiers than in pricing increases in general.So then tell me why the Hunter's Glade house, unfurnished, costs more than the entire game?
"Basically, because a mass market product priced in a fiat currency experiences economies of scale to some extent, while a luxury digital product priced in a virtual currency with no real value and offered for a limited time does not."
I do like that I can quote myself when you asked the exact same question.signing off3 -
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I can't even begin to imagine what type of person you are outside of this game. You feel that a 50% discount was problematic and unnecessary? That a 20% discount is much better? When you've had 50% for years, then yes going down to 20% is miserly.Last year there was no Crown Sale during Black Friday. Instead, they gave us a miserly 20% discount in May.
It seems crown sales seem less frequent and offer lower discounts
You're forgetting the 2017 Holiday Sale, which started on the third week of December and extended into 2018.
https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/26273
Also, 20% isn't miserly. 20% is what is typically considered an average to above average retail sales discount.
I'm okay with 20%. I feel the 40% to 50% discount range was problematic and unnecessary for the currency.
@Aluneth @ArchMikem Acrolas is a certified ZOS apologist. Don't bother.
So then tell me why the Hunter's Glade house, unfurnished, costs more than the entire game?I can't even begin to imagine what type of person you are outside of this game.
Somebody who recognizes that ZOS made the initial sales a little too good as part of their way of marketing and promoting the store. But now we're at a point where the store is established and I believe based on supporting reports from guilds and individuals that ZOS is satisfied with their non-discount crown pack sales volume.
And I recognize the other half of the equation. More stockpiling during substantial discounts leads to devaluation of the currency which leads to proportionate price increases on individual store items. Sales are nice. Small sales are still nice.
I'm much more interested in managing inflation than appeasing those who aren't willing and/or able to buy crowns at their standard pricing.PS4 NA
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✭✭✭✭✭Hardly an apologist. I just respect the autonomy of brands, which is a boundary that many on the Internet have difficulty with.signing off2 -
Aluneth✭✭✭✭Hardly an apologist. I just respect the autonomy of brands, which is a boundary that many on the Internet have difficulty with.
That's the difference between us, I don't respect greed.
They can't even fix their own game, and it's one of the most bug ridden MMO out on the market right now. They won't spend the resources to fix the game, but they'll keep pumping out virtual items in the Crown Store at increasing prices. We'll never agree on this, and that's fine, I can't help but feel pity for you though.8 -
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✭✭Last year there was no Crown Sale during Black Friday. Instead, they gave us a miserly 20% discount in May.
It seems crown sales seem less frequent and offer lower discounts
You're forgetting the 2017 Holiday Sale, which started on the third week of December and extended into 2018.
https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/26273
Also, 20% isn't miserly. 20% is what is typically considered an average to above average retail sales discount.
I'm okay with 20%. I feel the 40% to 50% discount range was problematic and unnecessary for the currency.
That makes sense in the context of regular retail companies offering physical products at a particular margin but for a company offering a small functionless instance with predominantly copy/paste resources for prices exceeding €100... my original subjective opinion is still valid I think. 20% discount when 200% overpriced, is miserly.All my housing builds are available on YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCf3oJ_cxuu01HmWZJZ6KK6g?view_as=subscriber
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MagicalLija✭✭✭✭✭silvermistktralasub17_ESO wrote: »There is typically a crown sale right around Black Fredas, from what I recall...just keep your eyes open, because that's when it usually appears.
@Alassirana
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✭✭✭✭✭Hopefully it will be a *real* sale. And by "sale" I mean putting the crowns at the price they should be at all the time to avoid being a blatant rip-off and cash grab.2 -
Count_Dracula✭✭✭I can't even begin to imagine what type of person you are outside of this game.
Somebody who recognizes that ZOS made the initial sales a little too good as part of their way of marketing and promoting the store. But now we're at a point where the store is established and I believe based on supporting reports from guilds and individuals that ZOS is satisfied with their non-discount crown pack sales volume.
And I recognize the other half of the equation. More stockpiling during substantial discounts leads to devaluation of the currency which leads to proportionate price increases on individual store items. Sales are nice. Small sales are still nice.
I'm much more interested in managing inflation than appeasing those who aren't willing and/or able to buy crowns at their standard pricing.
I'm more interested in keeping my money, in my pocket. Real life economic inflation is a concern, inflation on a video game economy is negligible.
Besides, Bethesda Softworks is a privately held company and we'll never know how much cash their racking in.
Just saying......Edited by Count_Dracula on November 6, 2018 10:46PM1 -
MerlinPendragon✭✭✭✭I would be happy with just a 10% discount._____________________________________
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Psyonico✭✭✭MerlinPendragon wrote: »I would be happy with just a 10% discount.
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Count_Dracula✭✭✭MerlinPendragon wrote: »I would be happy with just a 10% discount.
Don't give them ideas
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Perwulf✭✭✭✭✭Nov 24 & December 25. They may or may not induce sales but those two are holidays."Monsters doesn't exist, we create them"0 -
TheCabbageborn✭✭✭You'll find NOTHING in WoW that costs you 100+ euros for a single item/transaction.
WoW Tokens turned all in game gold interactions into MTX. It's actually way waaaay worse than the Crown schemes they got going on. Selling $20 bucks worth of gold gets you $15 dollars in store credit! No refunds!when a problem comes along u must fus it2 -
Dawnblade✭✭✭✭✭TheCabbageborn wrote: »You'll find NOTHING in WoW that costs you 100+ euros for a single item/transaction.
WoW Tokens turned all in game gold interactions into MTX. It's actually way waaaay worse than the Crown schemes they got going on. Selling $20 bucks worth of gold gets you $15 dollars in store credit! No refunds!
I have no problem with Blizzard taking a $5 cut to provide a secure and stable system that lets players exchange in-game currency for things only sold for real world money such as subscription time, services, and other Blizzard games.
It is a much better system than the prone to scamming gifting system used in ESO for exchanging gold for crown store items, not to mention tokens are used to pay for sub time or other Blizzard products - not for over-priced digital pixels.1
