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Has anyone tried an ice mage for PvE dungeons? My take on a theory build
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Hixtory✭✭✭✭For fun yeah, Mine use Winterborn and Illambris with IA.
IA staff is electric with flame enchant, back bar is VMA ice staff. So basically when illambris procs I deal all 3 types of damage (I like the visuals and the sideeffects of the winterborn proc tbh)
On the not "Just for fun" side, well, Ice staff heavy attack is a taunt, the ice staff doesnt get ANY benefit for DPS for slotting it, that's why I prefer a lighting (buffs aoe damage) front bar, but I get the ice damage from warden skills and WOE.
The ice staff MA does the same thing like the other 2 (considering the useless passive related to DPS)
It wil never be top DPS, but whatever I completed VMA with it, so "it's something"
"Frost Staff reduces the cost of blocking by 30% and increases the amount of damage you block by 20%"
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md3788✭✭✭For fun yeah, Mine use Winterborn and Illambris with IA.
IA staff is electric with flame enchant, back bar is VMA ice staff. So basically when illambris procs I deal all 3 types of damage (I like the visuals and the sideeffects of the winterborn proc tbh)
On the not "Just for fun" side, well, Ice staff heavy attack is a taunt, the ice staff doesnt get ANY benefit for DPS for slotting it, that's why I prefer a lighting (buffs aoe damage) front bar, but I get the ice damage from warden skills and WOE.
The ice staff MA does the same thing like the other 2 (considering the useless passive related to DPS)
It wil never be top DPS, but whatever I completed VMA with it, so "it's something"
"Frost Staff reduces the cost of blocking by 30% and increases the amount of damage you block by 20%"
I like Winterborn and have a full set, but I thought Ysgamor might be a tad better since it's a flat damage and adds crit. As for the taunt, I wouldn't purchase tri-focus. My goal is to just to do, at most, vet dungeonsvFG1 HM0 -
md3788✭✭✭For fun yeah, Mine use Winterborn and Illambris with IA.
IA staff is electric with flame enchant, back bar is VMA ice staff. So basically when illambris procs I deal all 3 types of damage (I like the visuals and the sideeffects of the winterborn proc tbh)
On the not "Just for fun" side, well, Ice staff heavy attack is a taunt, the ice staff doesnt get ANY benefit for DPS for slotting it, that's why I prefer a lighting (buffs aoe damage) front bar, but I get the ice damage from warden skills and WOE.
The ice staff MA does the same thing like the other 2 (considering the useless passive related to DPS)
It wil never be top DPS, but whatever I completed VMA with it, so "it's something"
"Frost Staff reduces the cost of blocking by 30% and increases the amount of damage you block by 20%"
I like Winterborn and have a full set, but I thought Ysgamor might be a tad better since it's a flat damage and adds crit. As for the taunt, I wouldn't purchase tri-focus. My goal is to just to do, at most, vet dungeons
Edit: Actually, I don't know why I said that. For a build like this they probably will both work fine since I won't be doing any super hard content. Maybe I will try both and see what I like bettervFG1 HM0 -
Weps✭✭✭✭For fun yeah, Mine use Winterborn and Illambris with IA.
IA staff is electric with flame enchant, back bar is VMA ice staff. So basically when illambris procs I deal all 3 types of damage (I like the visuals and the sideeffects of the winterborn proc tbh)
On the not "Just for fun" side, well, Ice staff heavy attack is a taunt, the ice staff doesnt get ANY benefit for DPS for slotting it, that's why I prefer a lighting (buffs aoe damage) front bar, but I get the ice damage from warden skills and WOE.
The ice staff MA does the same thing like the other 2 (considering the useless passive related to DPS)
It wil never be top DPS, but whatever I completed VMA with it, so "it's something"
"Frost Staff reduces the cost of blocking by 30% and increases the amount of damage you block by 20%"
I like Winterborn and have a full set, but I thought Ysgamor might be a tad better since it's a flat damage and adds crit. As for the taunt, I wouldn't purchase tri-focus. My goal is to just to do, at most, vet dungeons
The problem of Ysgramor is that it's a flat damage that increases what...2 types of attack if you're a warden? Blockade? That's too little tbh, it's not comparable to Sun on a MagDK for instance because that set buffs everything a MagDK does. Ysgramor? If you're a Warden you get maybe 4 skills out of 10. If you're not than it only buffs max 2 skills + light attacks on the ice staff.
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LeHarrt91✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yeah i would not use Ysgramor due to that lack of skills it affects, you could switch it for Winterborn and still use Mothers Sorrow. Winterborn does proc often but only has a 3m radius.
Or you could just use a generic stat boosting set like Necro, Siroria, Julianos as these sets will affect every skill and heal.PS NA 1800+ CP
Have played all classes.
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ESO_Nightingale✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I use 2 ice staves and am built as a normal magden otherwise. I use iceheart. Not nearly as good as fire. Dont recommend unless you like ice theme.PvE Frost Warden Main and teacher for ESO-U. Frost Warden PvE Build Article: https://eso-u.com/articles/nightingales_warden_dps_guide__frost_knight. Come Join the ESO Frost Discord to discuss everything frost!: https://discord.gg/5PT3rQX0 -
md3788✭✭✭Yeah i would not use Ysgramor due to that lack of skills it affects, you could switch it for Winterborn and still use Mothers Sorrow. Winterborn does proc often but only has a 3m radius.
Or you could just use a generic stat boosting set like Necro, Siroria, Julianos as these sets will affect every skill and heal.
I'd like to go with at least one frost themed set. I can definitely swap Winterborn for YsgramorvFG1 HM0 -
LeHarrt91✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yeah i would not use Ysgramor due to that lack of skills it affects, you could switch it for Winterborn and still use Mothers Sorrow. Winterborn does proc often but only has a 3m radius.
Or you could just use a generic stat boosting set like Necro, Siroria, Julianos as these sets will affect every skill and heal.
I'd like to go with at least one frost themed set. I can definitely swap Winterborn for Ysgramor
Ok no worries. Ive been using Crushing Shock for that little bit of extra Frost Damage and the interrupt is great. Have you considered Ice Comet on the back bar?
PS NA 1800+ CP
Have played all classes.
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Zekka✭✭✭✭Yes, iceheart/julianos/winterborn and ice maelstrom staff, my bars are almost the same. Arctic Blast (RIP) used to be in Bird of Prey slot and I use Entropy instead of Netch even if it's objectively worse because I hate the animal whisperer theme that much.0
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ESO_Nightingale✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Yes, iceheart/julianos/winterborn and ice maelstrom staff, my bars are almost the same. Arctic Blast (RIP) used to be in Bird of Prey slot and I use Entropy instead of Netch even if it's objectively worse because I hate the animal whisperer theme that much.
Wow really? The netch is so good!?PvE Frost Warden Main and teacher for ESO-U. Frost Warden PvE Build Article: https://eso-u.com/articles/nightingales_warden_dps_guide__frost_knight. Come Join the ESO Frost Discord to discuss everything frost!: https://discord.gg/5PT3rQX0 -
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✭✭Winterborn+Necropotence is a solid combo for ice magden, both for PvE and PvP. Obviously not meta but there's something so satisfying about locking down multiple enemies in one spot and watch them freeze to death.0 -
LeHarrt91✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes, iceheart/julianos/winterborn and ice maelstrom staff, my bars are almost the same. Arctic Blast (RIP) used to be in Bird of Prey slot and I use Entropy instead of Netch even if it's objectively worse because I hate the animal whisperer theme that much.
I turned off the Follower Indicator as i found it disracting lol but i just see it as a Blue Laser Beam
PS NA 1800+ CP
Have played all classes.
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I know, it also looks ridiculous and ruins my ice mage aesthetics imo. I try to deal damage with ice staves so it's not like I'm trying to minmax lol.ESO_Nightingale wrote: »Wow really? The netch is so good!?
Not a bad idea, thanks for the tip.I turned off the Follower Indicator as i found it disracting lol but i just see it as a Blue Laser Beam
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ESO_Nightingale✭✭✭✭✭
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I know, it also looks ridiculous and ruins my ice mage aesthetics imo. I try to deal damage with ice staves so it's not like I'm trying to minmax lol.ESO_Nightingale wrote: »Wow really? The netch is so good!?
Not a bad idea, thanks for the tip.I turned off the Follower Indicator as i found it disracting lol but i just see it as a Blue Laser Beam
I think the BLUE netch saves it for me. Blue really goes with my ice build.PvE Frost Warden Main and teacher for ESO-U. Frost Warden PvE Build Article: https://eso-u.com/articles/nightingales_warden_dps_guide__frost_knight. Come Join the ESO Frost Discord to discuss everything frost!: https://discord.gg/5PT3rQX0 -
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✭ESO_Nightingale wrote: »
I know, it also looks ridiculous and ruins my ice mage aesthetics imo. I try to deal damage with ice staves so it's not like I'm trying to minmax lol.ESO_Nightingale wrote: »Wow really? The netch is so good!?
Not a bad idea, thanks for the tip.I turned off the Follower Indicator as i found it disracting lol but i just see it as a Blue Laser Beam
I think the BLUE netch saves it for me. Blue really goes with my ice build.
There's a blue netch? Good to know, always avoided it because the green ruins my ice theme as well.There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man, true nobility is being superior to your former self
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LeHarrt91✭✭✭✭✭
✭ESO_Nightingale wrote: »
I know, it also looks ridiculous and ruins my ice mage aesthetics imo. I try to deal damage with ice staves so it's not like I'm trying to minmax lol.ESO_Nightingale wrote: »Wow really? The netch is so good!?
Not a bad idea, thanks for the tip.I turned off the Follower Indicator as i found it disracting lol but i just see it as a Blue Laser Beam
I think the BLUE netch saves it for me. Blue really goes with my ice build.
There's a blue netch? Good to know, always avoided it because the green ruins my ice theme as well.
Yes, the Blue Betty morph, is blue and restores magicka.PS NA 1800+ CP
Have played all classes.
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ESO_Nightingale✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭ESO_Nightingale wrote: »
I know, it also looks ridiculous and ruins my ice mage aesthetics imo. I try to deal damage with ice staves so it's not like I'm trying to minmax lol.ESO_Nightingale wrote: »Wow really? The netch is so good!?
Not a bad idea, thanks for the tip.I turned off the Follower Indicator as i found it disracting lol but i just see it as a Blue Laser Beam
I think the BLUE netch saves it for me. Blue really goes with my ice build.
There's a blue netch? Good to know, always avoided it because the green ruins my ice theme as well.
Yeah im pretty sure most of the magden stuff is blue. Exception of GREEN balance skills. However! Lotus Blossom is blue too! Its a great healing skill.PvE Frost Warden Main and teacher for ESO-U. Frost Warden PvE Build Article: https://eso-u.com/articles/nightingales_warden_dps_guide__frost_knight. Come Join the ESO Frost Discord to discuss everything frost!: https://discord.gg/5PT3rQX0 -
Joosef_Kivikilpi✭✭✭✭I use winterborn, torugs pact, and ice heart and sometimes Frost vma staff. All cold damage. No crushing shock... Because that does shock and for damage. I use Frost clench instead and impulse. Cold impulse amidst blockade and Winters revenge... it's glorious. I've is too cool. Terrible DPS, but the control is ridiculous.
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md3788✭✭✭Joosef_Kivikilpi wrote: »Terrible DPS, but the control is ridiculous.
How bad are we talking?vFG1 HM0