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heal debuffs should be stronger as the title says
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    Lol not because thread is bad but because they were all just gutted for the sake of gutting.


    Healing is ridiculous now
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    buff healing on mag sorc and mag nb first plx
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    Tirps wrote: »
    buff healing on mag sorc and mag nb first plx

    they should change how the heal morph for cloak works give it a magicka burst heal like vigor. that way stam nb dont have access to 2 skills that burst heal
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    Haashhtaag wrote: »
    Lol not because thread is bad but because they were all just gutted for the sake of gutting.


    Healing is ridiculous now

    how exactly they nerfed healing i still see ppl using 1 skill to be full hp again did i miss something ?
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    Hmm maybe we just do much healing in general that it makes it feel like it lacks skill?
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    I don’t agree. There’s just too much dots and free damage in the game right now. One of the reasons people are forced to overheal.
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    I don’t agree. There’s just too much dots and free damage in the game right now. One of the reasons people are forced to overheal.

    i think u want pvp to look like this ?


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0ucwE--IPo
  • Jeremy
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    Noctus wrote: »
    heal debuffs should be stronger as the title says

    Healing has already been nerfed to the point I don't even bother with it in PvP anyway. So go ahead, nerf it more. At this point, I frankly don't even care.

    In non-CP PvP I have yet to see a healer who could actually heal through the damage being directed at them on this game. But in their defense, I couldn't figure out a way to do it either.

    So it seems you and the developers of this game share the same disdain for healers. So don't worry, you'll probably get your wish. Because the only good healer is a dead one seems to be their motto.
    Edited by Jeremy on November 19, 2018 10:03PM
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    Jeremy wrote: »
    Noctus wrote: »
    heal debuffs should be stronger as the title says

    Healing has already been nerfed to the point I don't even bother with it in PvP anyway. So go ahead, nerf it more. At this point, I frankly don't even care.

    In non-CP PvP I have yet to see a healer who could actually heal through the damage being directed at them on this game. But in their defense, I couldn't figure out a way to do it either.

    So it seems you and the developers share the same disdain for healers.

    in some bg matches the healers never die thats a fact and there is video proof on the internet and i know it from my own experience. so idk what u talking about
    Edited by Noctus on November 19, 2018 10:06PM
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    Noctus wrote: »
    Haashhtaag wrote: »
    Lol not because thread is bad but because they were all just gutted for the sake of gutting.


    Healing is ridiculous now

    how exactly they nerfed healing i still see ppl using 1 skill to be full hp again did i miss something ?

    A critical Breath of Life in none CP PvP does like 7-8k. That's the equivalent of one attack....

    So at best, it can waste your magicka until you die during some futile attempt to heal back the damage you lose. That's some awesome stuff let me tell you.

    So if this thread thinks that healing is over-powered in this game, I hope for your sake you don't ever go play another MMORPG because their healers make the ones on this game look pathetic by comparison.
    Edited by Jeremy on November 19, 2018 10:17PM
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    Jeremy wrote: »
    Noctus wrote: »
    Haashhtaag wrote: »
    Lol not because thread is bad but because they were all just gutted for the sake of gutting.


    Healing is ridiculous now

    how exactly they nerfed healing i still see ppl using 1 skill to be full hp again did i miss something ?

    A critical breath of life in none CP PvP does like 7-8k. That's the equivalent of one attack....

    So at best, it can waste your magicka until you die during some futile attempt to heal back the damage you lose. That's some awesome stuff let me tell you.

    ill start recording just for u :D . there are many ways to reduce and mitigate dmg and atm i feel rly annoyed of spamming my attacks into the light armor shields which gives u back magicka for example. what am i suppose to do not attack and let that guy heavy attack me to death while hes healing ? many healers also use heavy armor inpen sword board, good luck getting through that in a teamfight.
    Edited by Noctus on November 19, 2018 10:20PM
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    Noctus wrote: »
    Jeremy wrote: »
    Noctus wrote: »
    Haashhtaag wrote: »
    Lol not because thread is bad but because they were all just gutted for the sake of gutting.


    Healing is ridiculous now

    how exactly they nerfed healing i still see ppl using 1 skill to be full hp again did i miss something ?

    A critical breath of life in none CP PvP does like 7-8k. That's the equivalent of one attack....

    So at best, it can waste your magicka until you die during some futile attempt to heal back the damage you lose. That's some awesome stuff let me tell you.

    ill start recording just for u :D

    Please do. Just make sure it's non-CP PvP, because that's what I'm referring to. I've tried to keep myself alive using the craptastic heals on this game and it was a pathetic joke. I was better off stacking health and using the vampire drain. That's how utterly useless they were.
    Edited by Jeremy on November 19, 2018 10:27PM
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    Noctus wrote: »
    Jeremy wrote: »
    Noctus wrote: »
    Haashhtaag wrote: »
    Lol not because thread is bad but because they were all just gutted for the sake of gutting.


    Healing is ridiculous now

    how exactly they nerfed healing i still see ppl using 1 skill to be full hp again did i miss something ?

    A critical breath of life in none CP PvP does like 7-8k. That's the equivalent of one attack....

    So at best, it can waste your magicka until you die during some futile attempt to heal back the damage you lose. That's some awesome stuff let me tell you.

    ill start recording just for u :D . there are many ways to reduce and mitigate dmg and atm i feel rly annoyed of spamming my attacks into the light armor shields which gives u back magicka for example. what am i suppose to do not attack and let that guy heavy attack me to death while hes healing ? many healers also use heavy armor inpen sword board, good luck getting through that in a teamfight.

    Bleeds, Oblivion damage, unmitigatable abilities, resource poisons

    And of course:

    Run a stamina build for PvP
    Gamer tag: DasPanzerKat NA Xbox One
    1300+ CP
    Battleground PvP'er

    Waffennacht' Builds
  • Jeremy
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    Noctus wrote: »
    Jeremy wrote: »
    Noctus wrote: »
    heal debuffs should be stronger as the title says

    Healing has already been nerfed to the point I don't even bother with it in PvP anyway. So go ahead, nerf it more. At this point, I frankly don't even care.

    In non-CP PvP I have yet to see a healer who could actually heal through the damage being directed at them on this game. But in their defense, I couldn't figure out a way to do it either.

    So it seems you and the developers share the same disdain for healers.

    in some bg matches the healers never die thats a fact and there is video proof on the internet and i know it from my own experience. so idk what u talking about

    Those must be some pathetic damage-dealers, that's all I know. Because I've done hundreds of BGs and have never seen a healer who never dies.

    Show me this video please.

    In fact, in all the BGs I've done healers get their butts handed to them.
    Edited by Jeremy on November 19, 2018 10:30PM
  • Noctus
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    Noctus wrote: »
    Jeremy wrote: »
    Noctus wrote: »
    Haashhtaag wrote: »
    Lol not because thread is bad but because they were all just gutted for the sake of gutting.


    Healing is ridiculous now

    how exactly they nerfed healing i still see ppl using 1 skill to be full hp again did i miss something ?

    A critical breath of life in none CP PvP does like 7-8k. That's the equivalent of one attack....

    So at best, it can waste your magicka until you die during some futile attempt to heal back the damage you lose. That's some awesome stuff let me tell you.

    ill start recording just for u :D . there are many ways to reduce and mitigate dmg and atm i feel rly annoyed of spamming my attacks into the light armor shields which gives u back magicka for example. what am i suppose to do not attack and let that guy heavy attack me to death while hes healing ? many healers also use heavy armor inpen sword board, good luck getting through that in a teamfight.

    Bleeds, Oblivion damage, unmitigatable abilities, resource poisons

    And of course:

    Run a stamina build for PvP

    ur right about everything and especially the stamina but it kind of is annoying that magicka has so many counters i named that in another thread but yeh best examples are eclipse, dk reflect, light armor negation its way easier to go stamina
    Edited by Noctus on November 19, 2018 10:32PM
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    Jeremy wrote: »
    Noctus wrote: »
    Jeremy wrote: »
    Noctus wrote: »
    heal debuffs should be stronger as the title says

    Healing has already been nerfed to the point I don't even bother with it in PvP anyway. So go ahead, nerf it more. At this point, I frankly don't even care.

    In non-CP PvP I have yet to see a healer who could actually heal through the damage being directed at them on this game. But in their defense, I couldn't figure out a way to do it either.

    So it seems you and the developers share the same disdain for healers.

    in some bg matches the healers never die thats a fact and there is video proof on the internet and i know it from my own experience. so idk what u talking about

    Those must be some pathetic damage-dealers, that's all I know. Because I've done hundreds of BGs and have never seen a healer who never dies.

    Show me this video please.

    In fact, in all the BGs I've done healers get their butts handed to them.

    just typed it in youtube lol. i can imagine it was lots of fun for the enemys

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvTnjRvKLTU
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvY8DkB7Qus

    Edited by Noctus on November 19, 2018 10:39PM
  • Jeremy
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    Noctus wrote: »
    Jeremy wrote: »
    Noctus wrote: »
    Haashhtaag wrote: »
    Lol not because thread is bad but because they were all just gutted for the sake of gutting.


    Healing is ridiculous now

    how exactly they nerfed healing i still see ppl using 1 skill to be full hp again did i miss something ?

    A critical breath of life in none CP PvP does like 7-8k. That's the equivalent of one attack....

    So at best, it can waste your magicka until you die during some futile attempt to heal back the damage you lose. That's some awesome stuff let me tell you.

    there are many ways to reduce and mitigate dmg and atm i feel rly annoyed of spamming my attacks into the light armor shields which gives u back magicka for example. what am i suppose to do not attack and let that guy heavy attack me to death while hes healing ? many healers also use heavy armor inpen sword board, good luck getting through that in a teamfight.

    What heal is he using that's supposedly making him impossible to kill?

    He sounds more like a shield spammer who uses heavy attacks to keep his magicka up to me. So if that's your beef, why are trying to nerf healers even more?

    And how do you let someone heavy attack you to death anyway Noctus? I mean come on.
    Edited by Jeremy on November 19, 2018 10:45PM
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    Jeremy wrote: »
    Noctus wrote: »
    Jeremy wrote: »
    Noctus wrote: »
    Haashhtaag wrote: »
    Lol not because thread is bad but because they were all just gutted for the sake of gutting.


    Healing is ridiculous now

    how exactly they nerfed healing i still see ppl using 1 skill to be full hp again did i miss something ?

    A critical breath of life in none CP PvP does like 7-8k. That's the equivalent of one attack....

    So at best, it can waste your magicka until you die during some futile attempt to heal back the damage you lose. That's some awesome stuff let me tell you.

    there are many ways to reduce and mitigate dmg and atm i feel rly annoyed of spamming my attacks into the light armor shields which gives u back magicka for example. what am i suppose to do not attack and let that guy heavy attack me to death while hes healing ? many healers also use heavy armor inpen sword board, good luck getting through that in a teamfight.

    What heal is he using that's supposedly making him impossible to kill?

    He sounds more like a shield spammer who uses heavy attacks to keep his magicka up to me. So if that's your beef, why are trying to nerf healers even more?

    And how do you let someone heavy attack you to death Noctus? I mean come on.

    i ment it would be the outcome if i dont go into cloak and dissappear and cloak is another subject that needs nerf. 3 secs cd atleast after detect not spammable.
  • Jeremy
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    Noctus wrote: »
    Jeremy wrote: »
    Noctus wrote: »
    Jeremy wrote: »
    Noctus wrote: »
    Haashhtaag wrote: »
    Lol not because thread is bad but because they were all just gutted for the sake of gutting.


    Healing is ridiculous now

    how exactly they nerfed healing i still see ppl using 1 skill to be full hp again did i miss something ?

    A critical breath of life in none CP PvP does like 7-8k. That's the equivalent of one attack....

    So at best, it can waste your magicka until you die during some futile attempt to heal back the damage you lose. That's some awesome stuff let me tell you.

    there are many ways to reduce and mitigate dmg and atm i feel rly annoyed of spamming my attacks into the light armor shields which gives u back magicka for example. what am i suppose to do not attack and let that guy heavy attack me to death while hes healing ? many healers also use heavy armor inpen sword board, good luck getting through that in a teamfight.

    What heal is he using that's supposedly making him impossible to kill?

    He sounds more like a shield spammer who uses heavy attacks to keep his magicka up to me. So if that's your beef, why are trying to nerf healers even more?

    And how do you let someone heavy attack you to death Noctus? I mean come on.

    i ment it would be the outcome if i dont go into cloak and dissappear and cloak is another subject that needs nerf. 3 secs cd atleast after detect not spammable.

    But like I said, it doesn't even sound like healing is what is giving you problems against this person. It's the combination of his defense/shields and sustain that seems to be keeping you from being able to kill him.

    I used to play a build like that actually - who stacked defense and shields and used heavy attacks to get magicka back. It was alright, but it had a pathetic offense and people could just effectively ignore it or save it for last. In any case - it wasn't healing that kept it alive.
    Edited by Jeremy on November 19, 2018 10:52PM
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    Noctus wrote: »
    Jeremy wrote: »
    Noctus wrote: »
    Jeremy wrote: »
    Noctus wrote: »
    heal debuffs should be stronger as the title says

    Healing has already been nerfed to the point I don't even bother with it in PvP anyway. So go ahead, nerf it more. At this point, I frankly don't even care.

    In non-CP PvP I have yet to see a healer who could actually heal through the damage being directed at them on this game. But in their defense, I couldn't figure out a way to do it either.

    So it seems you and the developers share the same disdain for healers.

    in some bg matches the healers never die thats a fact and there is video proof on the internet and i know it from my own experience. so idk what u talking about

    Those must be some pathetic damage-dealers, that's all I know. Because I've done hundreds of BGs and have never seen a healer who never dies.

    Show me this video please.

    In fact, in all the BGs I've done healers get their butts handed to them.

    just typed it in youtube lol. i can imagine it was lots of fun for the enemys

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvTnjRvKLTU
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvY8DkB7Qus

    I watched your videos. No where did I see some invincible healer. Far from it.

    What I saw was a well-coordinated group protecting their healer. Give me my own group of body guards and I could stay alive as well. But I guess if having an army surrounding you and keeping you safe is what you consider to be unkillable then yeah, I suppose.




    Edited by Jeremy on November 19, 2018 11:08PM
  • Noctus
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    Jeremy wrote: »
    Noctus wrote: »
    Jeremy wrote: »
    Noctus wrote: »
    Jeremy wrote: »
    Noctus wrote: »
    heal debuffs should be stronger as the title says

    Healing has already been nerfed to the point I don't even bother with it in PvP anyway. So go ahead, nerf it more. At this point, I frankly don't even care.

    In non-CP PvP I have yet to see a healer who could actually heal through the damage being directed at them on this game. But in their defense, I couldn't figure out a way to do it either.

    So it seems you and the developers share the same disdain for healers.

    in some bg matches the healers never die thats a fact and there is video proof on the internet and i know it from my own experience. so idk what u talking about

    Those must be some pathetic damage-dealers, that's all I know. Because I've done hundreds of BGs and have never seen a healer who never dies.

    Show me this video please.

    In fact, in all the BGs I've done healers get their butts handed to them.

    just typed it in youtube lol. i can imagine it was lots of fun for the enemys

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvTnjRvKLTU
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvY8DkB7Qus

    I watched your videos

    and this ?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf3i5I6jxk8
  • Jeremy
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    Noctus wrote: »
    Jeremy wrote: »
    Noctus wrote: »
    Jeremy wrote: »
    Noctus wrote: »
    Jeremy wrote: »
    Noctus wrote: »
    heal debuffs should be stronger as the title says

    Healing has already been nerfed to the point I don't even bother with it in PvP anyway. So go ahead, nerf it more. At this point, I frankly don't even care.

    In non-CP PvP I have yet to see a healer who could actually heal through the damage being directed at them on this game. But in their defense, I couldn't figure out a way to do it either.

    So it seems you and the developers share the same disdain for healers.

    in some bg matches the healers never die thats a fact and there is video proof on the internet and i know it from my own experience. so idk what u talking about

    Those must be some pathetic damage-dealers, that's all I know. Because I've done hundreds of BGs and have never seen a healer who never dies.

    Show me this video please.

    In fact, in all the BGs I've done healers get their butts handed to them.

    just typed it in youtube lol. i can imagine it was lots of fun for the enemys

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvTnjRvKLTU
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvY8DkB7Qus

    I watched your videos

    and this ?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf3i5I6jxk8

    Your videos do not show what you think it does.

    As I said in my post -all I see are well-coordinated groups protecting their healer. Give me my own group of body guards and I could stay alive as well.

    So you have established a healer can stay alive when they have a team protecting them. Wow. So OP let me tell you. I don't even see him coming under a concentrated attack in these videos. And when ever he gets outnumbered he runs away. lol

    So if these videos are your so-called evidence of unkillable healers I am not impressed.

    Edited by Jeremy on November 20, 2018 12:04AM
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