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generalmyrick wrote: »

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Not helpful....

I don't ask for tons of nerfs. And don't like most nerfs...I just can't stand these perma-snare builds

Just curious what class you all are playing that the evil ice warden is able to kill u so easily. Maybe I shouldn't have given up on my ice mage.

Again i'll say what i said before. For an ice mage to snare you, they need to be able to hit specific skills on you.

Wall of Elements and Winter's Revenge (grounds based) Arctic Blast and Destructive Clench or Reach.

2 of these are ground based and easily visible. 2 are target oriented. Solutions are do not stay stood in the open where they can lay these on you and LoS where you can. In most BG arenas the terrain gives these options to you unless you charged in to the open ground. If so that's a tactical error and totally on you.

If on mag sorc streak through them (works on stam sorc too). Pump that delayed burst combo in on them and then give them that streak + meteor treatment. They heal and cleanse or they die. Sorcs lost some maneuverability but they're not slow or sitting ducks so no treating them like they are.

On Magplar cleanse it off and either LoS or spear them. They can't snare you through a javelin in the face or if they’re having to deal with the sweeps spam. If you have ult then Soul Assault/Jesus beam that snowman back to spawn.

If you're on Magden then cleanse off and then freeze them right back. Use what skills you have to accomplish what you need.

On Magblade use your shade to port to and cloak. If they can't reapply the snare then it's not long until you're back in stealth at speed and ready to make a snow angel out of them.

On MagDK then wings and then assist the rest of your team by making it your mission to harrass the absolute hell out of Frosty with Fossilizes on cooldown and if you're so inclined give them the Talons/Fossilize loop (something i still don't condone)

Again i reiterate that not all of these are perfect counters or ideal

BUT until ZOS sees overall sense with the snare options we use the tools we have and counter what we can.

A world or guild skill should be created for snare removal (like how Forward Momentum works) with a stam and a mag morph so pure snare removal isn't reliant on 2H, Medium armor or being a DK.

I also agree that minor snare and major snare should be a thing to limit how much snare a zerg can apply in Cyro.

jabrone77 wrote: »

There is already a thread about this...

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/446040/ice-mages-are-destroying-the-fun-in-bgs-snared-and-immobilized-constantly/p1

You people are intent on nerfing everything and anything you can't be bothered to learn to counter.
PvP in ESO has always been about snares and CC. On my DK, I'll use burning talons, then when they roll out of that, it's time for fossilize. Why? Because it's a different type of CC....yet yeah, let's talk about frost warden. For the first time frost has something actually viable and players who can't handle it, yet can somehow handle DK snares and CC, have to cry about it.

Your tears are ruining this game.

Don't say "you people" when you have no idea what my opinions are. I am against most of ZOS' nerfs...but it's just stupid the amount of perma-snares...especially the setup I mentioned. People want to run these setups with 3, 4 or more different snare/immobilizations going at once. If you fight melee, you can't move. You can spam some skill to remove it, but you are snared again immediately. You can dodge roll, but again, it's like sorc hiding behind mines...they just stay on the back side of it and keep reapplying til have nowhere to go. How is this fun?

seems like a legit build...controllers are part of group specs and should excel in that role

I don’t have a decked out magwarden, but this seems like a legit spec...I’m gonna have to gear up for it lol be fun!