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Betty_Booms
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Maybe another iteration of hardened ward since it got destoyed.
But I was thinking of a skill that would reflect melee attacks in the same way DK wings reflectes projectiles.
Make it magicka so stam sorcs dont become even more god like.
Similar to wings certain skills go through like DBs and aoe and non direct type attacks.
Thoughts?
But I was thinking of a skill that would reflect melee attacks in the same way DK wings reflectes projectiles.
Make it magicka so stam sorcs dont become even more god like.
Similar to wings certain skills go through like DBs and aoe and non direct type attacks.
Thoughts?
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Artim_X✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Interesting idea. Maybe the reflect should be placed on Boundless Storm so that Stam Sorcs would be less inclined to give up Hurricane for it. The physical damage from the melee attacks should be reflected back as lightning damage and one cast of boundless should only reflect a fair amount of melee attacks over 4 seconds (not sure if the amount of attacks reflected should be different or the same as wings and perhaps the reflect duration should last as long as the major expedition buff). After the 4 seconds have passed Boundless will still function how it currently does. In PvE, boss melee attacks should not be reflected (Similar to how wings cannot reflect everything in the game). I also agree that if a change like this were made certain skills should be exempt from being reflected.(AD) Artim X/Xirtām/Måtrix |PC/NA| Casual staff wielding vampire sorcerer/templar/arcanistElectric-Stunhttps://media.giphy.com/media/Av0zcKH3i2BkaY1GXW/giphy.gif/https://c.tenor.com/jQHdFftrgwMAAAAC/tenor.gifElectric-Pets- Roleplay Damage Dealing Build.
- Gear: 5 Infallible Aether (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Lightning Staff (infused/shock enchant), and Kinras's jewelry (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused/flame/weapon damage enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
- Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Boundless Storm, Mages' Wrath, Lightning Flood, Shocking Soul (Shock damage, Class Mastery Signature Script, and Empower), and Power Overload.
- Ability-Bar 2: Storm Pulsar, Streak, Shock Reach, Unstable Wall of Storms, Shocking Burst (Shock Damage, remove 1 negative effect, and interrupt) and Thunderous Rage.
Solo: Use Kinras's chest, replace Mora with Ring of the Pale Order, and use a heavy Slimcraw piece for max critical.
https://i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExNHVjemwxZHI2ZmQ2bTg1ZG0xOTZ3b2QwajBzNGxmaHh6OXRpN3p6YSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/eBgWizk5dmZRS/giphy.gifElectric-Heal- Stress free one bar pet build .
- Gear: 5 Infallible Aether (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants. No chest piece), 1 medium Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, medium, Max Mag Enchants), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant ring and necklace (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant), Oakensoul ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant)
- Ability-Bar: Daedric Prey, Summon Volatile Familiar, Bound Armaments, Unstable Wall of Storms, Summon Twilight Matriarch, and Greater storm Atronach.
https://media.giphy.com/media/5ibGIHneWS6ek/giphy.gifElectric-Ward- My Healer Build.
- Gear: 5 Spell Power Cure (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Lightning Staff (Charged/shock enchant), and Infallible Aether jewelry (arcane with spell damage enchant)/restoration staff (Powered with absorb magicka enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
- Ability-Bar 1: Power Surge, Boundless Storm, Blessing of Restoration, Energy Orb, Twilight Matriarch, and Replenishing Barrier.
- Ability-Bar 2: Dark Deal, Overflowing Altar, Elemental Drain, Blockade of Storms, Twilight Matriarch, and Aggressive Horn.
https://media.giphy.com/media/Wa0TGmtDvwW3e/giphy.gifElectric-Vamp- My Meme Tank Build that uses high resistance and variety of wards.
- Gear: 5 Brands of Imperium (All body pieces except Head and Shoulders, with Divine trait, and with Prismatic Defense Enchants), full Iceheart (1 light and 1 medium. Divines and Prismatic Enchant), and Combat Physician jewelry (bloodthirsty with Prismatic Recovery Enchants), Combat Physician restoration staff (Infused with hardening enchant), and combat physician ice staff (Infused with crusher enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Bound Aegis, Deep Thoughts, Boundless Storm, Healing Ward, and Replenishing Barrier.
- Ability-Bar 2: Silver Leash (Elemental Drain if healer isn't running it), Bound Aegis, Frost Clench, Blockade of Frost, Empowered Ward, and Temporal Guard.
https://media.giphy.com/media/ukDQiYZzRAxMZKcK86/giphy.gifDawnfang- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (medium chest and body pieces light. All Impenetrable with Prismatic Enchants). Gaze of Sithis and 1 light Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton (light shoulders, and impenetrable with Prismtaic Enchants). Knight Slayer (Swift with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused with oblivion enchant)/restoration staff (infused with oblivion enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Structured Entropy, Boundless Storm, Soul Splitting Trap, Radiating Regeneration, Healing Ward, and Life Giver.
- Ability-Bar 2: Drain Vigor (Elemental Susceptibility), Race Against Time, Rune Cage, Radiant Magelight, Regenerative Ward, and Shatter Soul.
https://media.tenor.com/ogWfvDdsqBIAAAAd/anime-black-clover.gifDuskfang- My casual one bar heavy attack Templar build that primarily utilizes Aedric Spear abilities.
- Gear: 5 Noble Duelist (Head or Shoulder and body pieces except Chest. All body pieces Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 light Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchant), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant's Mail jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Puncturing Sweep, Aurora Javelin, Toppling Charge, Blazing Spear, Radiant Ward/Breath of life, and Crescent Sweep.
https://media.tenor.com/Jo8aG_ouy_oAAAAd/ac-odyssey.gifEye of the Queen- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (Heavy Chest with light Head, Waist, Hands, and Feet. All body pieces Impenetrable. Health enchant on chest/head/legs and everything else Prismatic Enchants), 1 Medium Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton Shoulder (Impenetrable, Prismatic Enchant), Knight Slayer Restoration Staff (Infused/Decrease Health enchant), and Knight Slayer jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both Swift with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (Swift with Spell Damage Enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Radiant Oppression, Race Against Time, Aurora Javelin, Breath of Life, Resolving Vigor, and Life Giver.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/fd/44/1c/fd441c8242af6ec35ada94496feb0901.gifEye of the King- My casual one bar heavy attack Arcanist build that primarily utilizes Herald of the Tome abilities.
- Gear: 5 Noble Duelist (Head or Shoulder and body pieces except Chest. All body pieces Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 light Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchant), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant's Mail jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Escalating Runeblades, Pragmatic Fatecarver, Cephaliarch's Flail, Rune of Displacement, Inspired Scholarship/Evolving Runemend, and The Languid Eye.
https://i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExOTAzdjV1eTgwbDFmM3lrZmxuMXRqdDR3Y3h1ZDRpajR0M3VjZzQ3NSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/zXmbOaTpbY6mA/giphy.gifPvE Starter Gear- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (Heavy Chest with light Head, Waist, Hands, and Feet. All body pieces Impenetrable. Health enchant on chest/head/legs and everything else Prismatic Enchants), 1 Medium Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton Shoulder (Impenetrable, Prismatic Enchant), Knight Slayer Restoration Staff (Infused/Decrease Health enchant), and Knight Slayer jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both Swift with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (Swift with Spell Damage Enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Escalating Runeblades, Race Against Time, Rune of Uncanny Adoration, Evolving Runemend, Resolving Vigor, and Life Giver.
https://media.giphy.com/media/6CovzgyTig7M4/giphy.gifRace- Gear: 5 Law of Julianos (heavy chest, gloves/belt light, and the rest can be light or 1 medium piece if you're not wearing medium anywhere else on your body. All in training if grinding for XP or divines), Armor of the Seducer or Magnus' Gift head, shoulder, and staves (light with 1 medium piece if you are not already wearing 1 medium Julianos piece. All in training or divines. The staves should be training or infused), and 3 purple Willpower Jewelry with Arcane trait (can be bought from trading guilds for relatively cheap.
- Check tamrieltradecentre.com for the best deals if you're not using a price checking addon).
https://media.giphy.com/media/sdEkeWpiaGz0A/giphy.gifMundus Stones- High elf, since you will not have issues with sustain, but other mag based races are also fine so this is more of a personal choice.
https://media.giphy.com/media/cT3wMhLGQWdKU/giphy.gifCurrent Champion Points- PvP: The Steed for speed. Gotta go fast!
- PvE Healing/Damage: The Thief for decent crit rate.
- PvE Tanking: The Lady to get close to resistance cap.
https://media.giphy.com/media/l4FGDAx6u3hthMhgI/giphy.gifFavorite Foods and Potions- DPS: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Exploiter, Weapons Expert, Fighting Finesse, Master-at-Arms, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- Healer Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Hope Infusion, Weapon's Expert, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- Tanky Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Ironclad, Enduring Resolve, Reinforced, Duelist's Rebuff, Bastion, Ward Master, Rejuvenation, Fortified.
- PvP Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, Occult Overload, Arcane Supremacy, Bastion, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- PvP Temp/Arcanist: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, From the Brink, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
https://media.giphy.com/media/3otPoTggaYFNd1FdAI/giphy.gif- Parse Food for PvE:(DPS) Ghastly Eye Bowl (increases Max Magicka by 4592 and Magicka Recovery by 459 for 2 hours).
- Gold/Purple Food for Sorc PvP and Meme Tanking:(PvP) Clockwork Citrus Filet (increases Max Health by 3326, Health Recovery by 406 [useful if stage 1 vampire], Max Magicka by 3080, and Magicka Recovery by 338 for 2 hours). Witchmother's Potent Brew (Increase Max Magicka by 2856, Max Health by 3094, and Magicka Recovery by 315 for 2 hours.
- Trash Potions when feeling cheap: Regular CP150 Essence of Magicka pots that I obtain frequently from playing the game or Crown Tri-Restoration Potion obtained from dailies.
- Crafted Potions: Essence of Spell Critical (Bugloss, Lady's Smock, and Water Hyacinth). Without magelight this is my primary means of obtaining Major Prophecy on my Sorc, which increases my Spell Critical Rating. This also heals and restores magicka. Essence of Immovability (Columbine, Corn Flower, and Wormwood). I use this in PvP, since this gives me stealth detection, knockback immunity, and restores magicka (better to use it when competent allies are nearby, since it might reveal that you are surrounded by multiple players in stealth and you will not have an emergency pot available after use). Essence of Invisibility with only 2 ingredients (Blue Entoloma, Namira's Rot, Nirnroot, or Spider Egg). I use this in PvE content that requires stealth and if I need more speed I'll use Rapid Maneuver before using the potion. Essence of Invisibility with 3 ingredients (Blessed Thistle, Blue Entoloma, and Namira's Rot). Very useful in PvP alongside the vampire Dark Stalker passive, since you'll be invisible, ignore movement speed penalty while in Crouch, and you'll have a 30% movement speed boost from Major Expedition (I always have this slotted when riding from point A to B in PvP land, since gankers are always lurking). My templar/arcanist will mostly use Essence of Health (Tri-Stat Potion) Ingredients: (Mountain Flower, Columbine, and Bugloss).
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Illuvatarr✭✭✭✭✭The last thing we need is more reflection abilities. They are lame and poor balancing. This would overpower mag sorcs.2
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ll_Rev✭✭✭✭Betty_Booms wrote: »Maybe another iteration of hardened ward since it got destoyed.
But I was thinking of a skill that would reflect melee attacks in the same way DK wings reflectes projectiles.
Make it magicka so stam sorcs dont become even more god like.
Similar to wings certain skills go through like DBs and aoe and non direct type attacks.
Thoughts?
you can't "reflect" melee attacks lmao. dumb idea0 -
Illuvatarr✭✭✭✭✭Area effect disarm ultimate, similar to negate, would be awesome and could go to a stam morph on one of the classes. Not sorcs. Maybe wardens or Templars.0
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✭✭✭✭✭Sorcs need better sustain against stamina builds, especially high pressure bleed builds. How about cutting the cost of Conjured Ward to make up for how hard they nerfed it?#CAREBEARMASTERRACE1 -
TheYKcid✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Asking anything too complicated from ZOS is only going to result in poorly-balanced new content that'll likely end with Sorcs getting nerfed even further.
Just give us something simple like minor protection on Boundless and call it a day.
Sorc offense and sustain still feels good when built for, and mobility seems relatively better with the slowing-down of everyone across the board, but options for mitigation are abysmal.Edited by TheYKcid on November 18, 2018 7:46AMPC/NA — Daggerfall Covenant — BGs, Kaalgrontiid
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Chilly-McFreeze✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Betty_Booms wrote: »Maybe another iteration of hardened ward since it got destoyed.
But I was thinking of a skill that would reflect melee attacks in the same way DK wings reflectes projectiles.
Make it magicka so stam sorcs dont become even more god like.
Similar to wings certain skills go through like DBs and aoe and non direct type attacks.
Thoughts?
you can't "reflect" melee attacks lmao. dumb idea
Is this your first TES game?3 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I put plague doctor/Necropotence/Ilambris on my sorc. Put the twilight matriarch on my bar for a heal.
42k magicka, 30k health, around 2.3k spell damage and......a 16k shield.
Not having an issue with sorcs or a shield for that matter.
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Lord_Eomer✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Illuvatarr wrote: »The last thing we need is more reflection abilities. They are lame and poor balancing. This would overpower mag sorcs.
So ZOS shall end up giving reflection to DK only?Edited by Lord_Eomer on November 18, 2018 1:27PM0 -
Illuvatarr✭✭✭✭✭They should get rid of all spell reflect except for the sword and board one to be honest and balance another way. DK could use some buffs actually as they have no execute and no mobility. Sword and board one should be an ultimate.0
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Lord_Eomer✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Illuvatarr wrote: »They should get rid of all spell reflect except for the sword and board one to be honest and balance another way. DK could use some buffs actually as they have no execute and no mobility. Sword and board one should be an ultimate.
Exactly, ZOS should get rid of reflection wings and give something better to DK,
Players using Magicka spells or Bow currently feel fool fighting them. Infact have to block/dodgeroll own spell.1 -
SirMewser✭✭✭✭✭Betty_Booms wrote: »Maybe another iteration of hardened ward since it got destoyed.
But I was thinking of a skill that would reflect melee attacks in the same way DK wings reflectes projectiles.
Make it magicka so stam sorcs dont become even more god like.
Similar to wings certain skills go through like DBs and aoe and non direct type attacks.
Thoughts?
you can't "reflect" melee attacks lmao. dumb idea
Edited by SirMewser on November 18, 2018 9:51PM7 -
mairwen85✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I put plague doctor/Necropotence/Ilambris on my sorc. Put the twilight matriarch on my bar for a heal.
42k magicka, 30k health, around 2.3k spell damage and......a 16k shield.
Not having an issue with sorcs or a shield for that matter.
So (depending on gear quality),
6-7k magicka from necropotence, 6-7k health from plague doctor, I assume tri-food or max magicka, mage mundus (because apprentice would put your SD way higher)? Of course you're bolstering your magicka with enchants on the small pieces, health on the larger pieces.
I'm going to say all divines, and 5/2 weight as necro is light only and plague doctor is heavy only, with 2 light Ilambris. Your jewellery then from plague doctor (so passives aren't gimped)? weapons from necro...
How are your attributes spent?
Are you running this PvE/PvP, and in which capacity? I can see it being a sturdy build for taking hits, not sure about damage output in PvE.Edited by mairwen85 on November 19, 2018 7:42AM0 -
Betty_Booms✭✭✭I put plague doctor/Necropotence/Ilambris on my sorc. Put the twilight matriarch on my bar for a heal.
42k magicka, 30k health, around 2.3k spell damage and......a 16k shield.
Not having an issue with sorcs or a shield for that matter.
So (depending on gear quality),
6-7k magicka from necropotence, 6-7k health from plague doctor, I assume tri-food or max magicka, mage mundus (because apprentice would put your SD way higher)? Of course you're bolstering your magicka with enchants on the small pieces, health on the larger pieces.
I'm going to say all divines, and 5/2 weight as necro is light only and plague doctor is heavy only, with 2 light Ilambris. Your jewellery then from plague doctor (so passives aren't gimped)? weapons from necro...
How are your attributes spent?
Are you running this PvE/PvP, and in which capacity? I can see it being a sturdy build for taking hits, not sure about damage output in PvE.
I watched a youtube vid on vMA with this build and was surprised to see that the stats are achieveable. Although i wonder how well it would go in BGs with diminished Magicka etc.0 -
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✭✭Betty_Booms wrote: »
I believe him, considering this is also possible even with impen TBS on a templar. I shudder to think what is possible on sorc or NB. 5/1/1 Passive, Max CP char. 32 mag/32 stam split. Notice also the monster set and second mundus value...
If you want to build for max stats you can get them. Though when using a build that stacks hp/stam/mag, you won't have any safety net from proc sets! I honestly though mag stacking sorcs would just cut mag and move to a build like this gaining stam and hp...Guess not.
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✭✭✭✭✭Betty_Booms wrote: »
Stats have never been a sorcs issue. Those look perfectly achievable to me. My BTB/Spinner build gets 43k mag, 25k health, and 15k stamina, with almost 3500 spell damage fully buffed, 2k of mag regen, 3k crit resist, and 20k spell/phys resist. Sorcs struggle primarily with bar space (which leads to a whole host of problems) and any time they are getting damage from multiple sources (because shields scale poorly). Sorcs certainly have issues in this game. I believe in PVP, magsorc is a bottom tier class at this point, but raw stats arent the problem.Edited by Oreyn_Bearclaw on November 20, 2018 6:13PM0 -
Weps✭✭✭✭DKs need wings because they are heavily balanced towards being a "stand your ground" class that wins forcing other people to fight melee. Sorcs? They don't need this. They already have the absorbtion field from the other morph of Streak. It's a range class that relies on the burst&bait playstyle to work. Wings-like mechanics don't belong in the same universe of a Sorc.
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✭✭✭✭✭Betty_Booms wrote: »Maybe another iteration of hardened ward since it got destoyed.
But I was thinking of a skill that would reflect melee attacks in the same way DK wings reflectes projectiles.
Make it magicka so stam sorcs dont become even more god like.
Similar to wings certain skills go through like DBs and aoe and non direct type attacks.
Thoughts?
Your version of DK wings and Shimmering Shield is Ball of Lightning. Id like to see that skill buffed.PvE Frost Warden Main and teacher. Come Join the ESO Frost Discord to discuss everything frost!: https://discord.gg/5PT3rQX
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✭✭✭dwemer_paleologist wrote: »only sorcs are allowed new skills?
No, we are always allowed new nerfs though.Vaerah, Dark Elf Magicka Sorceress
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