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Gryphon splash screen is driving me crazy
Davor
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I can't unsee this no more. The gryphon splash screen when ESO loads up drives me batty. It's a beautiful drawing (painting?) EXCEPT for his left wing. It's wrong. It's like bad copy/paste. There is no way that wing is connect to the gryphon's back. Right wing fits perfectly but compare it to the left wing (gryphons point of view not ours) and it just seems wrong.
Am I wrong? I don't want to go batty anymore when seeing it. Please tell me how I am wrong.
Am I wrong? I don't want to go batty anymore when seeing it. Please tell me how I am wrong.
Not my quote but I love this saying
"I would pay It for support. But since they choosed we are just numbers and not customers, i dont mind if game and zos goes to oblivion"
"I would pay It for support. But since they choosed we are just numbers and not customers, i dont mind if game and zos goes to oblivion"
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Bouldercleave✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Wow, I honestly never noticed. I'll have to check that out.
I'm usually getting a drink or something else during loading screens.0 -
SirAndy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Bouldercleave wrote: »I'm usually getting a drink or something else during loading screens.
Or pee break ...
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Bouldercleave✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Bouldercleave wrote: »I'm usually getting a drink or something else during loading screens.
Or pee break ...
Or if loading in to Cyrodil, watching a 5 hour documentary on the rise and fall of Ancient Rome....6 -
Shawn_PT✭✭✭✭✭
✭Glad I'm not the only one to think that these gryphons are badly designed. Even if they were to exist, they could never possibly fly with a body/wings like that.
The one in the splash screen even more so. Look at a bird's shoulder. Any bird. Now look at that gryphon and where its wings come out of the body. They're just wrong.0 -
Acrolas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭It's not wrong. What we're trying to perceive is the gryphon continuing a flight to the left side of the image. Much like this:
However, based on the angle of the wings, the Gryphon is changing direction. So the right wing is taking more drag and the left wing is angled toward its new target, which for point of view purposes is us.
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Judas Helviaryn✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭It's not wrong. What we're trying to perceive is the gryphon continuing a flight to the left side of the image. Much like this:
However, based on the angle of the wings, the Gryphon is changing direction. So the right wing is taking more drag and the left wing is angled toward its new target, which for point of view purposes is us.
That's what I figured from the image as well. He's either starting to bank, or flaring his wings up dropping speed.Edited by Judas Helviaryn on November 11, 2018 10:42PM0 -
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✭Still fail to see where the odd bend at the base of the gryphon's left wing comes from.3 -
Bouldercleave✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I see where you are coming from based on the pic. Seems like the left wing (HIS left) is a bit too far back off the shoulder.
If the left shoulder was dipped a bit and back a touch, I think it's a great image. The body just doesn't show enough curl to depict the movement of the left bank as well as the wings do.1 -
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✭Bouldercleave wrote: »I see where you are coming from based on the pic. Seems like the left wing (HIS left) is a bit too far back off the shoulder.
If the left shoulder was dipped a bit and back a touch, I think it's a great image. The body just doesn't show enough curl to depict the movement of the left bank as well as the wings do.
Yes that is it. The left wing looks too far back. It doesn't even look like it is aligned with the right wing.
Thanks for posting the pic @Acrolas.Not my quote but I love this saying
"I would pay It for support. But since they choosed we are just numbers and not customers, i dont mind if game and zos goes to oblivion"0 -
ezio45✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭i really hate that one from murkimire that has the lizard helping the highelf,
highelfs dont need lizard help, theyre lucky the respawn or I would have killed them all by now -_-2 -
Danikat✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭He's basically looking over his left shoulder.
He was flying to the left side of the image (your left, not his), then something to the right caught his attention and he's turned in that direction. So his left shoulder-blade is slightly raised and pushed back towards the middle of his back to accomodate turning his head. Presumably the wing connects at the same point as the shoulder blade so this would push the wing back too, which is what you're seeing in this picture.
To me it looks like he's not quite turned yet, but would turn on the next downbeat if he doesn't face back in the direction he was going. So the left wing is in position for the turn and the right wing is just about to catch up.
Sort of like this one, except this is at an even more extreme angle:
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Itacira✭✭✭✭✭
Would this make you feel better about it ? (I also lowered the other attachment point a bit)
The Khajit on the Hew's Bane loading screen also drives me insane (dat head!!!).
In the defense of the artists though, these detailed scenes require skills in anatomy, architecture, lighting, props, color, vegetation all at once, all of which are quite tough to master single handedly let alone together. I myself enjoy drawing floating heads to which I've been known to add a body but you'll never catch me drawing a background for FUN and that is probably why I'm skillwise at a standstill but I DIGRESSEdited by Itacira on November 12, 2018 12:47AMPC/EU - PVE 2H stam orc petsorc (meta, what meta?) ww - terrible dps - mediocre player - fun times - free ww bites to whomever asks so don't be shy if interested3 -
ixie✭✭✭✭✭maybe it's better like this?
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Elsonso✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭We need to consult an expert in Gryphons to resolve this issue. XBox EU/NA:@ElsonsoJannus
PC NA/EU: @Elsonso
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Mister_DMC✭✭✭✭✭Hahahaha my wife noticed this the first day and it still drives her crazy. She's happy to know she's not the only one!2
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SanguineMyBrother✭✭✭✭Ah man, now I can't unsee this! Now I must share this with my husband, the perfectionist, so that he can suffer too.Xbox NA • Magwarden Main2 -
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✭maybe it's better like this?
Perfect.
As someone who has a biology major, used to draw a lot, and be as thorough and anatomically correct as possible (even in fantasy settings) this is exactly what I was talking about. Was just too lazy to whip out Photoshop myself
Edited by Shawn_PT on November 12, 2018 2:53AM0 -
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✭✭✭✭i really hate that one from murkimire that has the lizard helping the highelf,
highelfs dont need lizard help, theyre lucky the respawn or I would have killed them all by now -_-
That's the one with the Redgard female wearing the original "redgard light" armor (top) that they took out of the game for ... who even knows why.
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Davor✭✭✭✭✭
✭maybe it's better like this?
Yes, this is how it should be. Thank you very much.
Would this make you feel better about it ? (I also lowered the other attachment point a bit)
The Khajit on the Hew's Bane loading screen also drives me insane (dat head!!!).
In the defense of the artists though, these detailed scenes require skills in anatomy, architecture, lighting, props, color, vegetation all at once, all of which are quite tough to master single handedly let alone together. I myself enjoy drawing floating heads to which I've been known to add a body but you'll never catch me drawing a background for FUN and that is probably why I'm skillwise at a standstill but I DIGRESS
Would this make you feel better about it ? (I also lowered the other attachment point a bit)
The Khajit on the Hew's Bane loading screen also drives me insane (dat head!!!).
In the defense of the artists though, these detailed scenes require skills in anatomy, architecture, lighting, props, color, vegetation all at once, all of which are quite tough to master single handedly let alone together. I myself enjoy drawing floating heads to which I've been known to add a body but you'll never catch me drawing a background for FUN and that is probably why I'm skillwise at a standstill but I DIGRESS
Now this is a perfect reason why it's off. Top picture, left wing, you can say the line is on the wing bone. On the right side it's on the feathers. They do not line up at all.
Now I just wish I new how to use photoshop. Not my quote but I love this saying
"I would pay It for support. But since they choosed we are just numbers and not customers, i dont mind if game and zos goes to oblivion"0 -
Itacira✭✭✭✭✭[Deleted by me because I admit, that was being petty]Edited by Itacira on November 14, 2018 2:44AMPC/EU - PVE 2H stam orc petsorc (meta, what meta?) ww - terrible dps - mediocre player - fun times - free ww bites to whomever asks so don't be shy if interested0
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✭✭Its probably not a bug... I've also been bothered by it. I've studied it and imo the original artwork had the Gryphon coming straight or mirrored the opposite angle at the screen someone wanted it changed and the artist changed the body... not the wings (maybe in a hurry)
Anyway that is my take on the weird wings as they are definitely painted straight on or even the opposite way .. originally.. bit lazy on the redo though.Edited by DanteYoda on November 14, 2018 12:21AM1 -
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