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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861
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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861
Make Stabbings Great (looking) Again!
TheShadowScout
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Hello everyone, today I want to talk about... stabby things!
Mainly, have you noticed how all those impressive looking monster weapons are maces, swords and axes... but none of them seem to be daggers???
My main character as a incorrigeable stabby girl finds that discriminating! She wants it to look good too when she slashes someones throat!
What you say?
Too few people like stabbings to make it very profitable for ZOS to spend resources to have their grafic designers make monster looks daggers?
Hmmm...
Okay, but what if... there was another way to make nifty looking blades on the cheap?
So I have been thinking... what if they took existing looks, and changed them just a little to make them look more nifty? Take the best looking "crafting styles" dagger visuals, and change them to sell as "Daggerpower" outfit options pack?
Like for example...
The Buoyant Arminger Dagger looks neat enough...
...but what if there were outfit options that simply replaced the un-colorable green bits with some other stuff and effects? Like... purple-black dark magic crystals and a "purple haze" effect like the shadowrend set, or a lava-orange "fire crystal" edge and Llambris flame effects, or both?
The Dro-M'Athra Dagger also looks nice...
...but would not a version with red "blood magic" runes and red-black haze be nifty as well for those vampire players? Or a version with "holy" yellow-gold runes and some effects?
The Stahlrim Frostcaster Dagger is nifty...
...but how about a "frozen venom" green smoking version, or another "dark magic crystal" purple black one?
The Hollowjack Dagger is pretty...
...but how about a "nature/poison power" version with veridian green instead of orange and smoke effects? Or one in cyan-blue with lighting effects?
See what I am daydreaming about?
And the same thing could be done for lots of nice weapons, allowing people a much wider range of "FX effect" weapons at very little development cost to ZOS, right?
So, is this a decent idea, or am I just insane? (Or both?
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Mainly, have you noticed how all those impressive looking monster weapons are maces, swords and axes... but none of them seem to be daggers???
My main character as a incorrigeable stabby girl finds that discriminating! She wants it to look good too when she slashes someones throat!
What you say?
Too few people like stabbings to make it very profitable for ZOS to spend resources to have their grafic designers make monster looks daggers?
Hmmm...
Okay, but what if... there was another way to make nifty looking blades on the cheap?
So I have been thinking... what if they took existing looks, and changed them just a little to make them look more nifty? Take the best looking "crafting styles" dagger visuals, and change them to sell as "Daggerpower" outfit options pack?
Like for example...
The Buoyant Arminger Dagger looks neat enough...
...but what if there were outfit options that simply replaced the un-colorable green bits with some other stuff and effects? Like... purple-black dark magic crystals and a "purple haze" effect like the shadowrend set, or a lava-orange "fire crystal" edge and Llambris flame effects, or both?
The Dro-M'Athra Dagger also looks nice...
...but would not a version with red "blood magic" runes and red-black haze be nifty as well for those vampire players? Or a version with "holy" yellow-gold runes and some effects?
The Stahlrim Frostcaster Dagger is nifty...
...but how about a "frozen venom" green smoking version, or another "dark magic crystal" purple black one?
The Hollowjack Dagger is pretty...
...but how about a "nature/poison power" version with veridian green instead of orange and smoke effects? Or one in cyan-blue with lighting effects?
See what I am daydreaming about?
And the same thing could be done for lots of nice weapons, allowing people a much wider range of "FX effect" weapons at very little development cost to ZOS, right?
So, is this a decent idea, or am I just insane? (Or both?
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tactx✭✭✭✭✭I think it's a great idea. I think they're trying to match the theme a bit since the weapon packs come out with the monster set drops. For example I'm expecting these to have daggers:- Pirate Skeleton - possibly red
- Swarm Mother - maybe green
- Fang Lair - that dragon glow teal color
- Vakyn Skoria - fire daggers?
- Iceheart - Maybe the frostcaster dagger with a frosty effect?
Things like that. We do have 1 hand axes coming up with yellow. Eventually we'll have all kinds of weapons with different effects.
“No one's happiness but my own is in my power to achieve or to destroy.” - John Galt, Atlas Shrugged1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭As ZOS makes additional weapon outfit styles, they'll likely be new models like we've seen with the Voriplasm set.
But overall, as far as cosmetics go in many instances a sword will just feel more substantial than a dagger and show off the particle effect better.
Iceheart is a sword. Swarm Mother is a mace.
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TheShadowScout✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The thingg is... each set gets one staff, one shield, one bow and... one two-.handed weapon, split between axe, mace and sword, and one one-handed weapon, also split between axe, dagger, mace and sword.
I mean... so far for the splits motivs:
• Ilambris: 2H Axe & 1H Sword
• Molag Kena: 2H Mace & 1H Sword
• Shadowrend: 2H Sword & 1H Axe
• Grothdarr: 2H Mace & 1H Mace
Announced:
• Troll King: 2H Axe & 1H Axe
Datamined:
• Iceheart: 2H Sword & 1H Sword
Previewed:
• Bloodspawn: 2H Axe & 1H Mace
• Sellistrix: 2H Axe & 1H Mace
• Spawn Mother: 2H Sword & 1H Mace
• Voriplasm: 2H Axe & 1H Sword
So, let's see...
- 2H Axe: |||||
- 2H Mace: ||
- 2H Sword: |||
...and...
- 1H Axe: ||
- 1H Mace: ||||
- 1H Sword: ||||
- 1H Dagger:
...see what I saw? Yeah, daggers get zero outta ten. That's zilch. So, I would really like some alternate ways that include daggers also, and thus I was thinking... how could that be if ZOS may not want to spend lots of effort and resources on stabby characters... and thus came up with above idea of "just redo some of the existing stuff for more versitality!" which of course could also add more weapon options for others... the more choices, the better, right? 0 -
tactx✭✭✭✭✭Wow yea that's pretty bad... I didn't know about all the others. Ok now I too want to know why no daggers.“No one's happiness but my own is in my power to achieve or to destroy.” - John Galt, Atlas Shrugged0
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✭✭✭✭✭While I'm probably never going to pay extra for new colors and particle effects on weapons...to be fair I don't buy any of the new monster sets either. But it IS a really neat idea and I'm pretty sure an awful lot of people would go for it.PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates!0
