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Need help picking a magplar build.

MaxJrFTW
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I'm trying to make a build with a combination of these sets, and i need some help picking the right one. This is mostly for BGs. I do Cyrodiil maybe once a month, it just isn't my thing.

I'll be using a lightning staff, 1h and shield back bar. Tri food, tri pots. Vamp as well.

Front Bar skills
- Puncturing Sweep
- Destructive Clench
- Purifying Light
- Elemental Drain
- Inner Light

Back Bar skills
- Honor the dead
- Channeled Focus
- Elusive Mist
- Extended Ritual
- Degeneration

With Rattlecage i'd drop Degeneration for Radiant Glory(beam).
"I don't know you, and I don't care to know you."
―Ulrich Leland, 3E 433

Need help picking a magplar build. 19 votes

Valkyn, Shackle, Amber Plasm
26%
KartalinWreckfulAbandonBrutusmax1musAsardesFakeFox 5 votes
Valkyn, Shackle, Rattlecage
36%
kaithuzarDrdeath20Valykcsusniandmoosegodcrazy_catman21Creationofgod 7 votes
Valkyn, Shackle, Wizard's Riposte
5%
MaxJrFTW 1 vote
Pirate Skeleton, Shackle, Amber Plasm
10%
CheckmathTheRedRavenTR 2 votes
Pirate Skeleton, Shackle, Rattlecage
0%
Pirate Skeleton, Rattlecage, Amber Plasm
0%
Shadowrend, Shackle, Amber Plasm
5%
EdoKeledus 1 vote
Shadowrend, Shackle, Rattlecage
0%
Shadowrend, Shackle, Transmutation
15%
MinnoWaffennachtJierdanit 3 votes
Shadowrend, Rattlecage, Amber Plasm
0%
  • Creationofgod
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    Valkyn, Shackle, Rattlecage
    im using

    mothersorrow 5pc
    rattlecage 5pc
    and valkyn

    all jewls spell damage

    and use poitions and elementaldrain + channeld focus for sustain works pretty well for me
    i also slotted magelight on both bars for major prohecy
    PC eu. Main : Magplar cp 320
  • Creationofgod
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    Valkyn, Shackle, Rattlecage
    im using

    mothersorrow 5pc
    rattlecage 5pc
    and valkyn

    all jewls spell damage

    and use poitions and elementaldrain + channeld focus for sustain works pretty well for me
    i also slotted magelight on both bars for major prohecy

    for pvp i just swapout mothersorrow for overwhelming surge
    PC eu. Main : Magplar cp 320
  • Checkmath
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    Pirate Skeleton, Shackle, Amber Plasm
    Actually I just wanted to say, that rattlecage is rather a poor choice as long as you REALLY do not need that one skill slot.

    If you use wizards riposte or pirate skeleton, you can go 5 light armor. With skoria I recommend heavy armor or at least protective jewelry.

    If you use shacklebreaker, witchmother's potent brew is the bufffood to go.
  • fred4
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    I play mostly in CP. For that environment, and for vMA runs, I currently use 5x Spell Strategist front bar (Infused Lightning Staff), Maelstrom Resto back bar. Second set is 5x Amber Plasm. Tankiness comes from 1x Chudan + 1x Pirate + 2x to 3x Protective jewelry. In place of Spell Strategist, Spinner or Mother's Sorrow should also work well and may be cheaper.

    Since I use Race against Time, I have a 1.9x crit modifier in CP. Playing light armor feels a lot better than heavy. The damage gain is very noticeable and easily makes up for any combination of heavy + Skoria, I feel.

    I ran an ice staff back bar in the past, but got backed into blocking and spamming Honor the Dead too often for my taste. For my current build I was determined to get as much healing over time as possible, something a magplar usually struggles with. To that end, I use the following:

    Mutagen + sustain from Maelstrom Resto
    Steed Mundus
    Clockwork Citrus Fillet
    Health + Lingering Health potions
    Infused Restore Health enchant on Lightning Staff
    Total Dark
    Degeneration
    Light's Champion
    Ele Drain for sustain / damage

    The idea is to counter bleed / Sloads / DOT / healing debuff builds without using Ritual. I find Ritual useful 1v1, against such builds, but prefer staying offensive and healing over time overall. With the addition of Lingering pots (the last thing I added), I feel I may finally be at that point, in CP. There is an instinct, in vMA, to spam Sweeps when you are in trouble, because the heal is so effective in PvE. With all of the above, particularly the Infused Restore Health enchant, PvP gains some of the same flavour.
  • Reefo
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    https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=8317

    i will make a vid of gameplay and BG scores to back it up, when i have time, so probably in a month
  • usmguy1234
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    Skoria
    Shackle
    Trans

    Willpower lightning staff
    Trans snb

    Zaghigoth- Orc Stamplar
    Soul Razor- Altmer Magsorc
    Les Drago- Redguard Stamdk
    Eirius- Altmer Magdk
    Stormifeth- Altmer Magplar

    Disclaimer: My comments are a little sarcasm mixed with truth. If you can't handle that don't respond to me.

  • fred4
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    A question left open by your poll is whether you intend using light or heavy. There are so many different ways to build that yield similar outcomes and it is difficult to provide a direct answer when (like me) you haven't tried them all. For example I almost always build light armor + mag regen drink of some description + all Hakeijo, but I agree that tri-food is also statistically very strong. Especially in no CP you might want the bigger stamina pool.

    Based on Reefo's response, who uses Lich, I'd be concerned about your mag sustain in some of the setups you propose, but I guess you could use mag regen enchants to compensate. You don't say what your mundus will be. I think Steed is something to consider for the, now, 10% speed bonus when you are trying to hit people with Sweeps. I chose Citrus Fillet for the synergy with that mundus and with health potions.

    P.S. I forgot to take into consideration that you are a vampire. I guess any advice from me will be a useless. I don't play vamp (for RP reasons). I have seen one YouTuber speccing into health regen despite vamp - for the same reasons I do: Speed + "free" stats from Citrus Fillet - but of course it's not generally a good idea.

    One thing that the vMA resto has going for it is that it will presumably restore magicka even while you are in Mist Form.
    Edited by fred4 on November 7, 2018 4:33PM
  • MaxJrFTW
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    Valkyn, Shackle, Wizard's Riposte
    for pvp i just swapout mothersorrow for overwhelming surge

    Yeah i'm currently using Pirate Skeleton, Wizard's Riposte, and Overwhelming. Feels very strong. I can't kill healers or tanks on my own, but i think most people can't anyways.
    fred4 wrote: »
    A question left open by your poll is whether you intend using light or heavy. There are so many different ways to build that yield similar outcomes and it is difficult to provide a direct answer when (like me) you haven't tried them all. For example I almost always build light armor + mag regen drink of some description + all Hakeijo, but I agree that tri-food is also statistically very strong. Especially in no CP you might want the bigger stamina pool.

    Based on Reefo's response, who uses Lich, I'd be concerned about your mag sustain in some of the setups you propose, but I guess you could use mag regen enchants to compensate. You don't say what your mundus will be. I think Steed is something to consider for the, now, 10% speed bonus when you are trying to hit people with Sweeps. I chose Citrus Fillet for the synergy with that mundus and with health potions.

    P.S. I forgot to take into consideration that you are a vampire. I guess any advice from me will be a useless. I don't play vamp (for RP reasons). I have seen one YouTuber speccing into health regen despite vamp - for the same reasons I do: Speed + "free" stats from Citrus Fillet - but of course it's not generally a good idea.

    One thing that the vMA resto has going for it is that it will presumably restore magicka even while you are in Mist Form.

    Using 5-1-1 light. Honestly i don't think sustain is ever an issue for me, i try to run around 1500 unbuffed recovery, you get another 480 from the Rune. Because of that i'd never even consider a set like Lich that offers nothing but sustain. The build is also mostly for bgs, i'm not sure a set that will be down a minimum of 66% of the time will be very helpful. It would allow me to run more dmg, but i'm afraid it's not always gonna be up when i need it so i'd rather go for Bright Throat's or Amber Plasm if i ever needed recovery.

    I use the vMA resto staff with my healing build and it does give you a lot of magicka back. It would be overkill for a damage dealer, and i prefer sword and board back bar anyways.
    "I don't know you, and I don't care to know you."
    ―Ulrich Leland, 3E 433
  • Brutusmax1mus
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    Valkyn, Shackle, Amber Plasm
    You are only going to kill potatoes with just purifying, clench, jabs.
  • MaxJrFTW
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    Valkyn, Shackle, Wizard's Riposte
    You are only going to kill potatoes with just purifying, clench, jabs.

    Good thing the majority of the players are potatoes then.
    "I don't know you, and I don't care to know you."
    ―Ulrich Leland, 3E 433
  • Minno
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    Shadowrend, Shackle, Transmutation
    Can't go wrong with trans+shacklebreaker. Though I'd pair it with valkyn with 1or 2 protective depending other options selected.

    I'm running 5pc bright, 5pc trans, 2pc will power ice staff 2pc valkyn. 5l,1m1h, with 1 protective and 1700-2k resists intoLA focus to mimic the other protective trait (CP).

    In nCP I swap the valkyn for 1pc chudan1pc dominhaus. Both options give me 20k physical
    https://en.m.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=90953

    7k effective spellpower with cresant sweep/empowering sweeps, 6900 with meteor.
    Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
    - Guild-lead for MV
    - Filthy Casual
  • Waffennacht
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    Shadowrend, Shackle, Transmutation
    Minno wrote: »
    Can't go wrong with trans+shacklebreaker. Though I'd pair it with valkyn with 1or 2 protective depending other options selected.

    I'm running 5pc bright, 5pc trans, 2pc will power ice staff 2pc valkyn. 5l,1m1h, with 1 protective and 1700-2k resists intoLA focus to mimic the other protective trait (CP).

    In nCP I swap the valkyn for 1pc chudan1pc dominhaus. Both options give me 20k physical
    https://en.m.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=90953

    7k effective spellpower with cresant sweep/empowering sweeps, 6900 with meteor.

    Lol, I didn't know you voted the same as me, nice
    Gamer tag: DasPanzerKat NA Xbox One
    1300+ CP
    Battleground PvP'er

    Waffennacht' Builds
  • Minno
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    Shadowrend, Shackle, Transmutation
    Minno wrote: »
    Can't go wrong with trans+shacklebreaker. Though I'd pair it with valkyn with 1or 2 protective depending other options selected.

    I'm running 5pc bright, 5pc trans, 2pc will power ice staff 2pc valkyn. 5l,1m1h, with 1 protective and 1700-2k resists intoLA focus to mimic the other protective trait (CP).

    In nCP I swap the valkyn for 1pc chudan1pc dominhaus. Both options give me 20k physical
    https://en.m.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=90953

    7k effective spellpower with cresant sweep/empowering sweeps, 6900 with meteor.

    Lol, I didn't know you voted the same as me, nice

    It's the only crit resist option, so mathematically it was destiny lol
    Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
    - Guild-lead for MV
    - Filthy Casual
  • Brutusmax1mus
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    Valkyn, Shackle, Amber Plasm
    MaxJrFTW wrote: »
    You are only going to kill potatoes with just purifying, clench, jabs.

    Good thing the majority of the players are potatoes then.

    True
  • PapaWeeb
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    I run 5/2 heavy/light

    Spinners + shackle + valkyn

    DW + Ice staff

    Great burst damage and AoE with dual wield, ele drain backbar
    PC EU
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