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PVP Warden PVP Templar ( WOW Zenimax you know how to balance the GAME )

ddevil66
ddevil66
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I am so pissed since the update we cant touch PVP tempaler and PVP wardens. They are untouchable, not just that they can heal tons and then also can cause tons of damages. I don't think that is a great game balance. We can jump 30 ppl on one PVP templaer and he can just keep jumping and going away. I was assuming this is ESO, not Fortnite where you need to jump with shotgun continuously.

Once again Thank You for great balance...
  • Minno
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    30 players on one templar; either that is one OP build or the 30 players can't even zerg properly lol.

    What build you running?
    Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
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  • ddevil66
    ddevil66
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    I am Stam DK (890 Cp ), Well sir you sound like of those templars, I will try to use fraps and take video for you for sure :) This is the curse of 21 century every knows what you are talking about but they believe you until they see it with their oven eyes.
  • Minno
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    ddevil66 wrote: »
    I am Stam DK (890 Cp ), Well sir you sound like of those templars, I will try to use fraps and take video for you for sure :) This is the curse of 21 century every knows what you are talking about but they believe you until they see it with their oven eyes.

    Yes, I am a templar main, except I am in execute range ALOT in both CP/nCP from all classes. On a templar you can tell who is running a decent build and who isn't.
    Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
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  • Kingslayer513
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    I had to double check that you didn't mistakenly write Templar when you meant Dragonknight
  • _Ahala_
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    Are you having a problem with all Templars and Wardens or is it specific subclasses out of Stamden, Magplar, Stamplar or Magden. If you are having problems with Stamden or Magplar specifically I would advise utilizing reverb bash into your burst combo when they get around 50% health without cc immunity to overcome their recovery. If you are having problems with Stamplar you should build a bit more defense and learn to read when they will Dawnbreaker you. If you are having problems with Magden... wut? Whatever it is, it would be helpful to find a friend who plays that class and practice dueling them over and over to find out what kills them. Every build has its counters, and if you want to beat someone you need to know the strengths and weaknesses of their class as well as those of your own
    Edited by _Ahala_ on November 8, 2018 7:19AM
  • ATomiX96
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    Yikes... another L2P and lack of game knowledge thread
  • THE_BIG_BOSS
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    ddevil66 wrote: »
    I am Stam DK (890 Cp ), Well sir you sound like of those templars, I will try to use fraps and take video for you for sure :) This is the curse of 21 century every knows what you are talking about but they believe you until they see it with their oven eyes.

    I saw IT with my own oven eyes and i believe you
  • ESO_Nightingale
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    Not warden. Stamden. Magden is garbage as *** right now and you're not helping it by including us with stamden.
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  • IAVITNI
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    Minno wrote: »
    30 players on one templar; either that is one OP build or the 30 players can't even zerg properly lol.

    What build you running?

    What alliance, platform and campaign does that 30 player zerg play on. I could use a fat 1vx clip of 30 that can't kill a single templar xD
  • Minno
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    IAVITNI wrote: »
    Minno wrote: »
    30 players on one templar; either that is one OP build or the 30 players can't even zerg properly lol.

    What build you running?

    What alliance, platform and campaign does that 30 player zerg play on. I could use a fat 1vx clip of 30 that can't kill a single templar xD

    Ask OP, I can only get up to 3 targets on me if i don't line of sight them lol.
    Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
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    - Filthy Casual
  • Moonsorrow
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    ANY class can make those troll builds, they dont do much at all damage, other than maybe some monster set proc that takes out total glass cannons or potat.. uhh i mean new players/zerglings. They just build high hp/regens and act like a tank juggling resources and looking chances to maybe finish off some low hp targets that their friends are focusing from range.

    Result = "nerf _insert class_ its op not dying but kills our group" posts.

    If a group of 30 cannot take down such builds, one can tell it lacks Defile, cc and burst.

    And yes, i`ve done such builds occasionally for both luls and for testing some setup for pve tanking "fun builds", i go jump on enemy zergs exactly. Difference between a good discord group and a pug group is always noticeable, coordinated groups take such builds down fast, against pug groups i can get some kills, jump around between Ales and Chal back and forth all that way and not getting killed.

    The thing is.. such builds are working as intended and should always be doable. If a group of 30 rather spends their time running after 1 pvp tank than sieging keeps, then that tank is a hero of their alliance.

    Jumping around is the "taunt" at pvp, its aoe taunt, no such thing at pve haha. You can get 30 people taunted by jumping and they all follow you for a nice 15 minutes atleast. :trollface:
  • Kadoin
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    ddevil66 wrote: »
    I am so pissed since the update we cant touch PVP tempaler and PVP wardens. They are untouchable, not just that they can heal tons and then also can cause tons of damages. I don't think that is a great game balance. We can jump 30 ppl on one PVP templaer and he can just keep jumping and going away. I was assuming this is ESO, not Fortnite where you need to jump with shotgun continuously.

    Once again Thank You for great balance...

    Wasn't me! And if it was, did you enjoy fighting a hybrid? The more ZOS nerfs, the stronger it will make those builds :D
  • Minno
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    Moonsorrow wrote: »
    ANY class can make those troll builds, they dont do much at all damage, other than maybe some monster set proc that takes out total glass cannons or potat.. uhh i mean new players/zerglings. They just build high hp/regens and act like a tank juggling resources and looking chances to maybe finish off some low hp targets that their friends are focusing from range.

    Result = "nerf _insert class_ its op not dying but kills our group" posts.

    If a group of 30 cannot take down such builds, one can tell it lacks Defile, cc and burst.

    And yes, i`ve done such builds occasionally for both luls and for testing some setup for pve tanking "fun builds", i go jump on enemy zergs exactly. Difference between a good discord group and a pug group is always noticeable, coordinated groups take such builds down fast, against pug groups i can get some kills, jump around between Ales and Chal back and forth all that way and not getting killed.

    The thing is.. such builds are working as intended and should always be doable. If a group of 30 rather spends their time running after 1 pvp tank than sieging keeps, then that tank is a hero of their alliance.

    Jumping around is the "taunt" at pvp, its aoe taunt, no such thing at pve haha. You can get 30 people taunted by jumping and they all follow you for a nice 15 minutes atleast. :trollface:

    I tbag the ground for my taunt to pull gankblades out of stealth. And i name sure to usea resorce so they can't crutch on stealth lol
    Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
    - Guild-lead for MV
    - Filthy Casual
  • Checkmath
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    ddevil66 wrote: »
    I am so pissed since the update we cant touch PVP tempaler and PVP wardens. They are untouchable, not just that they can heal tons and then also can cause tons of damages. I don't think that is a great game balance. We can jump 30 ppl on one PVP templaer and he can just keep jumping and going away. I was assuming this is ESO, not Fortnite where you need to jump with shotgun continuously.

    Once again Thank You for great balance...

    I now have to ask, what did change with the recent update to make such builds possible? Tanks and trollbuilds were already there before murkmire, so why are they only unkillable right now?

    Btw if its a magplar, try something like a combo of roots, defile and burst.
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