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✭✭✭✭✭Ydrisselle wrote: »Knootewoot wrote: »Not happy with the game, ive barely been logging on just to get pissed and log out. Also been checing out wow as a result. Its ok.
Soon as i get the money rdr2 and black ops 4 are calling my name. well see how things go in update 21
Haha, i did the same. Checked out WoW but i didn't get far. I got as afar as stranglethorn and then i got a few quests:
Kill 10 young tigers
kill 10 adult tigers
Kill the boss tiger (which i already did during the young quest)
kill 10 young panthers
kill 10 adult panthers
kill the boss panther
kill 10 raptors
kill 10 something raports
Hang yourself
And i immediatly uninstalled the game.
I am pretty sure the main story is good. But the quests make me puke.
Anyway, there is no game i currently look forward to except Cyberpunk. RDR2 looks great but i don't want to play on PS4. I wanted to try Fallout76 but i read cheating will be so easy in that game and lockpick cheats already exist so i skip that one,
eh, im still holding out for the main story. I choose horde and sylvannas's story looks alot better than anything ive seen from eso. Like actual character development, whens the last time you saw that if ever in eso, or repeating characters for that matter. The introduction to wow though does seem very slow.
cyperpunk cant get here fast enough for me, cdpr is the last game company i have faith in. Fallout 76 looks like a buggy empty mess, which after other online games from bethesda..... I cant say im surprised about. Im giving 76 a hard pass. I checked out black ops 4 with my friends with couch coop and honestly its one of the better cods lately. Im excited to sink some hours into zombies. I heard kingdom come deliverance has seen steady improvement since its launch and its probably cheap used, might check out that. But at least right now RDR2 is what im focused on when the bills are paid lol
Only checking out wow rn because the first 20 lvls are free
Character development with Sylvanas? She does the same thing since Wrath of the Lich King... trying to kill everybody and raise them as forsaken.
More than that...looks like another Horde civil war. Already had one in MoP with Garrosh Hellscream. Story and character development? Not really...we have seen this before, and Sylvanas has been going down this road since the beginning. It's completely opposite of development. Sylvanas hasn't changed and the story (horde side) is a rehash with a different leader.
This is why I quit in Legion. WoW is awful.
still, se has a back story from what ive heard (new to wow) going from the defender of her people to pawn of the lick king to taking him town to queen of the undead and now warchief or the horde. There have been 0 things like that.
eso, make zone 1 like the queen, make zone 2 like the queen.
morrowind: be vivecs helper
1 want to see more repeating characters with eso and more complex plots then, oh deadric princes are causing trouble, lets save the world..... again.....
There are plenty of repeating characters. How far have you gotten?#FiteForYourRite Bosmer = Stealth
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Ydrisselle✭✭✭✭✭Ydrisselle wrote: »Knootewoot wrote: »Not happy with the game, ive barely been logging on just to get pissed and log out. Also been checing out wow as a result. Its ok.
Soon as i get the money rdr2 and black ops 4 are calling my name. well see how things go in update 21
Haha, i did the same. Checked out WoW but i didn't get far. I got as afar as stranglethorn and then i got a few quests:
Kill 10 young tigers
kill 10 adult tigers
Kill the boss tiger (which i already did during the young quest)
kill 10 young panthers
kill 10 adult panthers
kill the boss panther
kill 10 raptors
kill 10 something raports
Hang yourself
And i immediatly uninstalled the game.
I am pretty sure the main story is good. But the quests make me puke.
Anyway, there is no game i currently look forward to except Cyberpunk. RDR2 looks great but i don't want to play on PS4. I wanted to try Fallout76 but i read cheating will be so easy in that game and lockpick cheats already exist so i skip that one,
eh, im still holding out for the main story. I choose horde and sylvannas's story looks alot better than anything ive seen from eso. Like actual character development, whens the last time you saw that if ever in eso, or repeating characters for that matter. The introduction to wow though does seem very slow.
cyperpunk cant get here fast enough for me, cdpr is the last game company i have faith in. Fallout 76 looks like a buggy empty mess, which after other online games from bethesda..... I cant say im surprised about. Im giving 76 a hard pass. I checked out black ops 4 with my friends with couch coop and honestly its one of the better cods lately. Im excited to sink some hours into zombies. I heard kingdom come deliverance has seen steady improvement since its launch and its probably cheap used, might check out that. But at least right now RDR2 is what im focused on when the bills are paid lol
Only checking out wow rn because the first 20 lvls are free
Character development with Sylvanas? She does the same thing since Wrath of the Lich King... trying to kill everybody and raise them as forsaken.
More than that...looks like another Horde civil war. Already had one in MoP with Garrosh Hellscream. Story and character development? Not really...we have seen this before, and Sylvanas has been going down this road since the beginning. It's completely opposite of development. Sylvanas hasn't changed and the story (horde side) is a rehash with a different leader.
This is why I quit in Legion. WoW is awful.
still, se has a back story from what ive heard (new to wow) going from the defender of her people to pawn of the lick king to taking him town to queen of the undead and now warchief or the horde. There have been 0 things like that.
eso, make zone 1 like the queen, make zone 2 like the queen.
morrowind: be vivecs helper
1 want to see more repeating characters with eso and more complex plots then, oh deadric princes are causing trouble, lets save the world..... again.....
Well, at the start of WoW she was already the Banshee Queen of the forsaken. Everything you mentioned about her happened during Warcraft III - except she wasn't there to take down the Lich King. That was Illidan, and he failed at that. The death of the Lich King happened much later, and Sylvanas wasn't there, she arrived too late.1 -
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✭✭Eso is an enjoyable game, but not a good game, if wow gets better i will go back to in in a heartbeat, and ashes is looking very promising.
If ashes of creation delivers, eso will be left in the dust, and rightly so, the devs are lazy, they do what is barely necessary, but never take the step forward to make things really damn good, examples are like the extremely lazy "fix" for warden class passive.
Also, they have the tendency of making complete 180 when balancing, and make very rushed decisions.7 -
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✭✭✭Fed up with the game. Don't even care about the free dlc reward (yet i still lurk the forums) Got a ps4 and rdr2. I guess you joined eso in it's end cycle. Prepare to play an empty game in a year once AoC hits the stores.
Why are you here then? Why do people who despise the game they're supposed to be playing so much to the point where they'll try to drag other players down.
were here because for some foolish reason we hope zos will fix things and chance their *** balancing practices and goals because while we hate zos, at some point we liked eso alot and want to enjoy it again.
I like your optimism.
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✭✭✭Ydrisselle wrote: »Knootewoot wrote: »Not happy with the game, ive barely been logging on just to get pissed and log out. Also been checing out wow as a result. Its ok.
Soon as i get the money rdr2 and black ops 4 are calling my name. well see how things go in update 21
Haha, i did the same. Checked out WoW but i didn't get far. I got as afar as stranglethorn and then i got a few quests:
Kill 10 young tigers
kill 10 adult tigers
Kill the boss tiger (which i already did during the young quest)
kill 10 young panthers
kill 10 adult panthers
kill the boss panther
kill 10 raptors
kill 10 something raports
Hang yourself
And i immediatly uninstalled the game.
I am pretty sure the main story is good. But the quests make me puke.
Anyway, there is no game i currently look forward to except Cyberpunk. RDR2 looks great but i don't want to play on PS4. I wanted to try Fallout76 but i read cheating will be so easy in that game and lockpick cheats already exist so i skip that one,
eh, im still holding out for the main story. I choose horde and sylvannas's story looks alot better than anything ive seen from eso. Like actual character development, whens the last time you saw that if ever in eso, or repeating characters for that matter. The introduction to wow though does seem very slow.
cyperpunk cant get here fast enough for me, cdpr is the last game company i have faith in. Fallout 76 looks like a buggy empty mess, which after other online games from bethesda..... I cant say im surprised about. Im giving 76 a hard pass. I checked out black ops 4 with my friends with couch coop and honestly its one of the better cods lately. Im excited to sink some hours into zombies. I heard kingdom come deliverance has seen steady improvement since its launch and its probably cheap used, might check out that. But at least right now RDR2 is what im focused on when the bills are paid lol
Only checking out wow rn because the first 20 lvls are free
Character development with Sylvanas? She does the same thing since Wrath of the Lich King... trying to kill everybody and raise them as forsaken.
More than that...looks like another Horde civil war. Already had one in MoP with Garrosh Hellscream. Story and character development? Not really...we have seen this before, and Sylvanas has been going down this road since the beginning. It's completely opposite of development. Sylvanas hasn't changed and the story (horde side) is a rehash with a different leader.
This is why I quit in Legion. WoW is awful.
still, se has a back story from what ive heard (new to wow) going from the defender of her people to pawn of the lick king to taking him town to queen of the undead and now warchief or the horde. There have been 0 things like that.
eso, make zone 1 like the queen, make zone 2 like the queen.
morrowind: be vivecs helper
1 want to see more repeating characters with eso and more complex plots then, oh deadric princes are causing trouble, lets save the world..... again.....
There are plenty of repeating characters. How far have you gotten?
all of ad's quests, all of morrowind, cwc, wrothgar, and most of summerset
only one ive seen repeat is raz0 -
firedrgn✭✭✭✭✭We are all on the forums complaining or reading complaints.
I am currently at work.
When i am in game i am still trying to over ckme the sorc nerffs i dont have time to stay all day in murkmire so you can feel good.0 -
Dottzgaming✭✭✭✭✭Eso always has ups and downs. It was same last year after halloween . People buy bunch of games because they were on discounts so they play them instead of eso, but at mid november - december, loads of people come back and population spikes back up.
+1 to this
As a content creator for the game, it's super easy to even see it in my analytics as (at the current moment) theyre pretty proportional to ESO's hype/popularity at a given time.
The trend i personally notice is that May/June is when ESO is the most popular, since that's when a chapter normally releases. Hype steadily dies down, goes up a tiny bit with the Q3 DLC, then plummets October and November because of all the new games that come out around that time of year. In December things begin to pick back up as people have some time off from school or have holiday breaks, and they look forward to the Q1 DLC. Then the new chapter gets announced, hype begins to steadily grow. Then the cycle repeats itself.Edited by Dottzgaming on November 7, 2018 8:07PM4 -
Maura_Neysa✭✭✭✭✭New doc release and everything seems completely dead,I remember clockwork city being so crowded after that release I waited a week before going back lol,summerset still crowded but not as bad,now with murkmire release most guilds I am in are down to 19 out of 499 players (today)and there is no one in sight.
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Ydrisselle✭✭✭✭✭Ydrisselle wrote: »Knootewoot wrote: »Not happy with the game, ive barely been logging on just to get pissed and log out. Also been checing out wow as a result. Its ok.
Soon as i get the money rdr2 and black ops 4 are calling my name. well see how things go in update 21
Haha, i did the same. Checked out WoW but i didn't get far. I got as afar as stranglethorn and then i got a few quests:
Kill 10 young tigers
kill 10 adult tigers
Kill the boss tiger (which i already did during the young quest)
kill 10 young panthers
kill 10 adult panthers
kill the boss panther
kill 10 raptors
kill 10 something raports
Hang yourself
And i immediatly uninstalled the game.
I am pretty sure the main story is good. But the quests make me puke.
Anyway, there is no game i currently look forward to except Cyberpunk. RDR2 looks great but i don't want to play on PS4. I wanted to try Fallout76 but i read cheating will be so easy in that game and lockpick cheats already exist so i skip that one,
eh, im still holding out for the main story. I choose horde and sylvannas's story looks alot better than anything ive seen from eso. Like actual character development, whens the last time you saw that if ever in eso, or repeating characters for that matter. The introduction to wow though does seem very slow.
cyperpunk cant get here fast enough for me, cdpr is the last game company i have faith in. Fallout 76 looks like a buggy empty mess, which after other online games from bethesda..... I cant say im surprised about. Im giving 76 a hard pass. I checked out black ops 4 with my friends with couch coop and honestly its one of the better cods lately. Im excited to sink some hours into zombies. I heard kingdom come deliverance has seen steady improvement since its launch and its probably cheap used, might check out that. But at least right now RDR2 is what im focused on when the bills are paid lol
Only checking out wow rn because the first 20 lvls are free
Character development with Sylvanas? She does the same thing since Wrath of the Lich King... trying to kill everybody and raise them as forsaken.
More than that...looks like another Horde civil war. Already had one in MoP with Garrosh Hellscream. Story and character development? Not really...we have seen this before, and Sylvanas has been going down this road since the beginning. It's completely opposite of development. Sylvanas hasn't changed and the story (horde side) is a rehash with a different leader.
This is why I quit in Legion. WoW is awful.
still, se has a back story from what ive heard (new to wow) going from the defender of her people to pawn of the lick king to taking him town to queen of the undead and now warchief or the horde. There have been 0 things like that.
eso, make zone 1 like the queen, make zone 2 like the queen.
morrowind: be vivecs helper
1 want to see more repeating characters with eso and more complex plots then, oh deadric princes are causing trouble, lets save the world..... again.....
There are plenty of repeating characters. How far have you gotten?
all of ad's quests, all of morrowind, cwc, wrothgar, and most of summerset
only one ive seen repeat is raz
So you missed every returning character from the Pact and Covenant storylines.2 -
itsJylerTAG✭✭✭Tbh i got burnt out on eso with the indrik update because i found that to be an unnecessary grind and then i preordered farming simulator 2019 which will be released in a week or so from now. So til then i login just long enough to do my daily writs, then i go back to warframe or dreadnought.2 -
Swomp23✭✭✭✭Apart from other games, I suspect many people are in pvp farming spell strat.WitchyWarrior wrote: »Nyghthowler wrote: »RDR2 just came out (last week?), NMS got an update with new content, and people might just be plain fed up with the constant over excessive nerf hammer....
All this is pure speculation.
My son just finished RDR2 two days ago & from what he told me, I am glad I didn't try it.
He absolutely LOVED the game but was not happy with the how one part ended.
I'm a bit annoyed that I spent over 60 bucks on a game that he finished so fast. I was hoping there would be more to it for him.
But he still has nothing but good things to say about it(except the one part). He just wished it was longer
This sentence perfectly sums up why I don't agree with everyone shitting on ZOS head. Yes, the game has many flaws. Yes, a thoughtful complain has it's place. Yes, other games might do better vs the flaws and bugs. But very few of them also offer the absolutely humongous number of things to do ESO offers, with thousands of hours of replayability worth.
WoW may have fewer bugs (idk, never played), but if it was so damn good, people would be overthere, playing the game, instead of crying in here that their class got nerfed.
RDR2 seems absolutely amazing, but the 60 hours you are talking about has me a little worried. And for having played GTA5 online for a little while, I don't give so much hope for this other Rockstar online mode. I hope I'm wrong.
Try to be a little grateful for what you have instead of being entitled to have everything. Each game has it's forces and flaws. If you feel other games are so much better, go play them. I'll bet you a beer that you'll come back in 60 hours.
Sorry for the rant. I'm getting tired of all this salt.Edited by Swomp23 on November 7, 2018 10:17PMXBox One - NA3 -
itsJylerTAG✭✭✭Swomp23 wrote:Snipped for sanity reasons.Apart from other games, I suspect many people are in pvp farming spell strat.WitchyWarrior wrote: »Nyghthowler wrote: »RDR2 just came out (last week?), NMS got an update with new content, and people might just be plain fed up with the constant over excessive nerf hammer....
All this is pure speculation.
My son just finished RDR2 two days ago & from what he told me, I am glad I didn't try it.
He absolutely LOVED the game but was not happy with the how one part ended.
I'm a bit annoyed that I spent over 60 bucks on a game that he finished so fast. I was hoping there would be more to it for him.
But he still has nothing but good things to say about it(except the one part). He just wished it was longer
This sentence perfectly sums up why I don't agree with everyone shitting on ZOS head. Yes, the game has many flaws. Yes, a thoughtful complain has it's place. Yes, other games might do better vs the flaws and bugs. But very few of them also offer the absolutely humongous number of things to do ESO offers, with thousands of hours of replayability worth.
WoW may have fewer bugs (idk, never played), but if it was so damn good, people would be overthere, playing the game, instead of crying in here that their class got nerfed.
RDR2 seems absolutely amazing, but the 60 hours you are talking about has me a little worried. And for having played GTA5 online for a little while, I don't give so much hope for this other Rockstar online mode. I hope I'm wrong.
Try to be a little grateful for what you have instead of being entitled to have everything. Each game has it's forces and flaws. If you feel other games are so much better, go play them. I'll bet you a beer that you'll come back in 60 hours.
Sorry for the rant. I'm getting tired of all this salt.
Well to be fair i'm not shitting on zos nor have i ever other than the fact that weapon enchantment effects started showing up a couple updates ago. However i am burnt out on these "events" that are more grindy than the entire game itself. Yes, i get the stuff is free but people really don't like having to grind and wait for nearly a year to get a mount. That being said i'm one of those who don't follow the meta, so the game has been more enjoyable for me seeing as i'm not worried about this or that getting nerfed and even if something i use gets nerfed i adapt and overcome. I see no need to come to the forums and cause a ruckus about it because 9 times out of 10 that does nothing anyways. That being said some of us simply have other games we want to play at the moment. For me a game i've been playing for the past 5 years is about to have a huge update hit and another series i've always loved is coming out with another game soon, so i've got more interesting things to do.
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xan4silkb14_ESO✭✭✭✭Eso is an enjoyable game, but not a good game, if wow gets better i will go back to in in a heartbeat, and ashes is looking very promising.
If ashes of creation delivers, eso will be left in the dust, and rightly so, the devs are lazy, they do what is barely necessary, but never take the step forward to make things really damn good, examples are like the extremely lazy "fix" for warden class passive.
Also, they have the tendency of making complete 180 when balancing, and make very rushed decisions.
I agree that ESO is an enjoyable game and not having a ton of time to spend on games right now I haven't really looked at what's upcoming. If Ashes of Creation can deliver on most of things it's promised I also think ESO will be left in the dust despite all of it's lore that I find amazing. The Class specialization that reminds me of Titan Quest, player choices and interactions with the world having meaningful impact, fluid economy. All these things sound like they are overreaching for a MMO.1 -
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✭I’m not in a hurry. I still have plenty of stuff to do in the other dlc zones.PS4 Pro NA0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭New doc release and everything seems completely dead,I remember clockwork city being so crowded after that release I waited a week before going back lol,summerset still crowded but not as bad,now with murkmire release most guilds I am in are down to 19 out of 499 players (today)and there is no one in sight.
Questing has become so brain-dead easy for higher level players that new zones to explore and quest in just aren't as entertaining as they used to be.
They really need to add an option to access a veteran version of each zone or something - otherwise I see this trend continuing I'm sorry to say.1 -
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✭itsJylerTAG wrote: »Tbh i got burnt out on eso with the indrik update because i found that to be an unnecessary grind and then i preordered farming simulator 2019 which will be released in a week or so from now. So til then i login just long enough to do my daily writs, then i go back to warframe or dreadnought.
You only needed to do one thing on one character per day to get an event ticket. Not much of a grind.
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itsJylerTAG✭✭✭itsJylerTAG wrote: »Tbh i got burnt out on eso with the indrik update because i found that to be an unnecessary grind and then i preordered farming simulator 2019 which will be released in a week or so from now. So til then i login just long enough to do my daily writs, then i go back to warframe or dreadnought.
You only needed to do one thing on one character per day to get an event ticket. Not much of a grind.
When you have to bury your uncle, make sure your family is okay, it is a bit of a grind. Not everyone has a chance to login everyday and this has been by far one of the most grind event rewards i've seen since i started playing. Even the free house wasn't this annoying.0 -
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✭✭I'm strictly PvE. I think it is important to separate the content itself from the game controls and playability issues Murkmire introduced along with ESO's long term failure to resolve the game's performance problems. Those have been laid out in multiple posts and threads so I won't repeat them here.
I like the content and story. As to the content itself I think some of the lack of players has to do with how short the story line and sides quests are. Once they have been completed the three combat daily's don't take any time to do and with the lack of instanced content there isn't really a good reason to hang around. What I think would help is adding the daily crafting and an another instance or two but I'm sure it is too late for that.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Ydrisselle wrote: »Knootewoot wrote: »Not happy with the game, ive barely been logging on just to get pissed and log out. Also been checing out wow as a result. Its ok.
Soon as i get the money rdr2 and black ops 4 are calling my name. well see how things go in update 21
Haha, i did the same. Checked out WoW but i didn't get far. I got as afar as stranglethorn and then i got a few quests:
Kill 10 young tigers
kill 10 adult tigers
Kill the boss tiger (which i already did during the young quest)
kill 10 young panthers
kill 10 adult panthers
kill the boss panther
kill 10 raptors
kill 10 something raports
Hang yourself
And i immediatly uninstalled the game.
I am pretty sure the main story is good. But the quests make me puke.
Anyway, there is no game i currently look forward to except Cyberpunk. RDR2 looks great but i don't want to play on PS4. I wanted to try Fallout76 but i read cheating will be so easy in that game and lockpick cheats already exist so i skip that one,
eh, im still holding out for the main story. I choose horde and sylvannas's story looks alot better than anything ive seen from eso. Like actual character development, whens the last time you saw that if ever in eso, or repeating characters for that matter. The introduction to wow though does seem very slow.
cyperpunk cant get here fast enough for me, cdpr is the last game company i have faith in. Fallout 76 looks like a buggy empty mess, which after other online games from bethesda..... I cant say im surprised about. Im giving 76 a hard pass. I checked out black ops 4 with my friends with couch coop and honestly its one of the better cods lately. Im excited to sink some hours into zombies. I heard kingdom come deliverance has seen steady improvement since its launch and its probably cheap used, might check out that. But at least right now RDR2 is what im focused on when the bills are paid lol
Only checking out wow rn because the first 20 lvls are free
Character development with Sylvanas? She does the same thing since Wrath of the Lich King... trying to kill everybody and raise them as forsaken.
More than that...looks like another Horde civil war. Already had one in MoP with Garrosh Hellscream. Story and character development? Not really...we have seen this before, and Sylvanas has been going down this road since the beginning. It's completely opposite of development. Sylvanas hasn't changed and the story (horde side) is a rehash with a different leader.
This is why I quit in Legion. WoW is awful.
still, se has a back story from what ive heard (new to wow) going from the defender of her people to pawn of the lick king to taking him town to queen of the undead and now warchief or the horde. There have been 0 things like that.
eso, make zone 1 like the queen, make zone 2 like the queen.
morrowind: be vivecs helper
1 want to see more repeating characters with eso and more complex plots then, oh deadric princes are causing trouble, lets save the world..... again.....
There are plenty of repeating characters. How far have you gotten?
all of ad's quests, all of morrowind, cwc, wrothgar, and most of summerset
only one ive seen repeat is razYdrisselle wrote: »Knootewoot wrote: »Not happy with the game, ive barely been logging on just to get pissed and log out. Also been checing out wow as a result. Its ok.
Soon as i get the money rdr2 and black ops 4 are calling my name. well see how things go in update 21
Haha, i did the same. Checked out WoW but i didn't get far. I got as afar as stranglethorn and then i got a few quests:
Kill 10 young tigers
kill 10 adult tigers
Kill the boss tiger (which i already did during the young quest)
kill 10 young panthers
kill 10 adult panthers
kill the boss panther
kill 10 raptors
kill 10 something raports
Hang yourself
And i immediatly uninstalled the game.
I am pretty sure the main story is good. But the quests make me puke.
Anyway, there is no game i currently look forward to except Cyberpunk. RDR2 looks great but i don't want to play on PS4. I wanted to try Fallout76 but i read cheating will be so easy in that game and lockpick cheats already exist so i skip that one,
eh, im still holding out for the main story. I choose horde and sylvannas's story looks alot better than anything ive seen from eso. Like actual character development, whens the last time you saw that if ever in eso, or repeating characters for that matter. The introduction to wow though does seem very slow.
cyperpunk cant get here fast enough for me, cdpr is the last game company i have faith in. Fallout 76 looks like a buggy empty mess, which after other online games from bethesda..... I cant say im surprised about. Im giving 76 a hard pass. I checked out black ops 4 with my friends with couch coop and honestly its one of the better cods lately. Im excited to sink some hours into zombies. I heard kingdom come deliverance has seen steady improvement since its launch and its probably cheap used, might check out that. But at least right now RDR2 is what im focused on when the bills are paid lol
Only checking out wow rn because the first 20 lvls are free
Character development with Sylvanas? She does the same thing since Wrath of the Lich King... trying to kill everybody and raise them as forsaken.
More than that...looks like another Horde civil war. Already had one in MoP with Garrosh Hellscream. Story and character development? Not really...we have seen this before, and Sylvanas has been going down this road since the beginning. It's completely opposite of development. Sylvanas hasn't changed and the story (horde side) is a rehash with a different leader.
This is why I quit in Legion. WoW is awful.
still, se has a back story from what ive heard (new to wow) going from the defender of her people to pawn of the lick king to taking him town to queen of the undead and now warchief or the horde. There have been 0 things like that.
eso, make zone 1 like the queen, make zone 2 like the queen.
morrowind: be vivecs helper
1 want to see more repeating characters with eso and more complex plots then, oh deadric princes are causing trouble, lets save the world..... again.....
There are plenty of repeating characters. How far have you gotten?
all of ad's quests, all of morrowind, cwc, wrothgar, and most of summerset
only one ive seen repeat is raz
You’ve been to Wrothgar and CwC and there weren’t any npcs that were like “Hello again my friend, what’s happened since last we met?” I can think of 2 without researching. Skordo the Knife is in Orsinium and Neramo a mage is in CWC right at the gate. It was weird to me because I hadn’t met them before on that character but they were clearly expecting me to have done zones in order after completing Cadwell’s Silver and Gold.
Edit, oh! And Lady Laurent and Stibbons show up all over the place. And the two Dark Elf brother and sister dungeon delvers are in Morrowind and Gold Coast and Coldharbour.... there’s a lot actually.Edited by max_only on November 7, 2018 11:52PM#FiteForYourRite Bosmer = Stealth
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✭✭Warden nerfs over shadowed the nerfmire, many have moved on.. Some of us lurk here occasionally lolEso is an enjoyable game, but not a good game, if wow gets better i will go back to in in a heartbeat, and ashes is looking very promising.
If ashes of creation delivers, eso will be left in the dust, and rightly so, the devs are lazy, they do what is barely necessary, but never take the step forward to make things really damn good, examples are like the extremely lazy "fix" for warden class passive.
Also, they have the tendency of making complete 180 when balancing, and make very rushed decisions.
Not to mention never listening to their customers, never updating older content, seriously customers notice big stuff like that, always having server issues doesn't help either...
Other mmo's even older ones are surpassing ESO faster than people think.. Why pay money for a game that doesn't or wont help itself..
And yes the balance devs imo are either so inept or bias here its disgusting.Edited by DanteYoda on November 8, 2018 12:21AM5 -
Cronopoly✭✭✭✭✭I was addicted to ESO, but for some reason ZOS combat balance team decided to boil the Frog (Me), all at once, on high heat, making me jump out of the pot.
So while i have not quit, i'm currently playing the forums...periodically. Not sure when i'll log back into the game.10 -
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✭✭xan4silkb14_ESO wrote: »Eso is an enjoyable game, but not a good game, if wow gets better i will go back to in in a heartbeat, and ashes is looking very promising.
If ashes of creation delivers, eso will be left in the dust, and rightly so, the devs are lazy, they do what is barely necessary, but never take the step forward to make things really damn good, examples are like the extremely lazy "fix" for warden class passive.
Also, they have the tendency of making complete 180 when balancing, and make very rushed decisions.
I agree that ESO is an enjoyable game and not having a ton of time to spend on games right now I haven't really looked at what's upcoming. If Ashes of Creation can deliver on most of things it's promised I also think ESO will be left in the dust despite all of it's lore that I find amazing. The Class specialization that reminds me of Titan Quest, player choices and interactions with the world having meaningful impact, fluid economy. All these things sound like they are overreaching for a MMO.
I do agree that on some things, the devs of ashes seem to be indeed overreaching, but i honestly doubt that it will flop, the devs always interact with the community and deliver updates, have a stake in the company, because they personally put money into this, they genuinely seem to care, so either they are extremely good liars, or they really care.
I don;t know if they can keep all their promises, some of the things they said seem, really difficult, if not impossible to implement, but even if they don't deliver on all of them, the game could still be really amazing, better than any other mmo on the market.
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Miswar✭✭✭✭✭Apart from other games, I suspect many people are in pvp farming spell strat.WitchyWarrior wrote: »Nyghthowler wrote: »RDR2 just came out (last week?), NMS got an update with new content, and people might just be plain fed up with the constant over excessive nerf hammer....
All this is pure speculation.
My son just finished RDR2 two days ago & from what he told me, I am glad I didn't try it.
He absolutely LOVED the game but was not happy with the how one part ended.
I'm a bit annoyed that I spent over 60 bucks on a game that he finished so fast. I was hoping there would be more to it for him.
But he still has nothing but good things to say about it(except the one part). He just wished it was longer
This sentence perfectly sums up why I don't agree with everyone shitting on ZOS head. Yes, the game has many flaws. Yes, a thoughtful complain has it's place. Yes, other games might do better vs the flaws and bugs. But very few of them also offer the absolutely humongous number of things to do ESO offers, with thousands of hours of replayability worth.
WoW may have fewer bugs (idk, never played), but if it was so damn good, people would be overthere, playing the game, instead of crying in here that their class got nerfed.
RDR2 seems absolutely amazing, but the 60 hours you are talking about has me a little worried. And for having played GTA5 online for a little while, I don't give so much hope for this other Rockstar online mode. I hope I'm wrong.
Try to be a little grateful for what you have instead of being entitled to have everything. Each game has it's forces and flaws. If you feel other games are so much better, go play them. I'll bet you a beer that you'll come back in 60 hours.
Sorry for the rant. I'm getting tired of all this salt.
Well considering that RDR2 online is coming in next 3 weeks that is utter nonsense you are saying. I will bet real money that RDR2 will sweep the current state of ESO back and forth 100-0. Yes, it will have some bugs but that is what you expect from that just launched. Considering that ESO has been active for some years and the amount of bugs and senseless nerfs is just beyond joke to be honest.
Than again again RDR2 single player did not have any noticecable bugs and run smoothly. I guarantee that online will be just as awesome as single player. Maybe ZoS should take long look at their product.
You can rant all you want but the fact is that the hiatus is for real at ESO. The sooner you and especially the developers wake up from day dreaming the sooner the game might have hope. As for the moment is getting bad... I just log for writs and even that is getting harder day by day.
When I look my friends list 85% are awol from ESO and these people spent +5h per day playing this product until they simply got fed up. When I look at the guild lists I can see 60-70% decrease of the active players. These are the people that spend tons on crowns, played and defended this product throughs Morrowinds etc.
I told this when the 1st nerfmire patch notes hit forums.. yes.. absolutely horrific stuff. Considering the bonus that they have pretty much broken trials atm among tons of other bugs.. it all adds up.
So you might be tired of salt but if you want to have this product operational you might think that are all these people wrong? Do the game actually need these people to stay profitable? ...I would say yes but than again each of our own.
I have been grateful for years through tons of crap but enough is enough. There is always a limit and by all means lets not be salty.. lets all be grateful about these bugs and senseless nerfs... what do really think that will result to?
Why I'am even here and that propably your legit question. I still have some attachment to the product since spend tons of hours playing it and have tiny hope that ZoS will actually wake up and do something actually sensible.
Do I think that they will? ... to be honest day by day less and so does many others. This is way diffrent hiatus than previous years exodus. These people are not coming back unless major improvements (performance, fix bugs etc) and sensible balance actions are done.
Reading this maybe we both salty just for diffrent reasons.....
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✭✭Apart from other games, I suspect many people are in pvp farming spell strat.WitchyWarrior wrote: »Nyghthowler wrote: »RDR2 just came out (last week?), NMS got an update with new content, and people might just be plain fed up with the constant over excessive nerf hammer....
All this is pure speculation.
My son just finished RDR2 two days ago & from what he told me, I am glad I didn't try it.
He absolutely LOVED the game but was not happy with the how one part ended.
I'm a bit annoyed that I spent over 60 bucks on a game that he finished so fast. I was hoping there would be more to it for him.
But he still has nothing but good things to say about it(except the one part). He just wished it was longer
This sentence perfectly sums up why I don't agree with everyone shitting on ZOS head. Yes, the game has many flaws. Yes, a thoughtful complain has it's place. Yes, other games might do better vs the flaws and bugs. But very few of them also offer the absolutely humongous number of things to do ESO offers, with thousands of hours of replayability worth.
WoW may have fewer bugs (idk, never played), but if it was so damn good, people would be overthere, playing the game, instead of crying in here that their class got nerfed.
RDR2 seems absolutely amazing, but the 60 hours you are talking about has me a little worried. And for having played GTA5 online for a little while, I don't give so much hope for this other Rockstar online mode. I hope I'm wrong.
Try to be a little grateful for what you have instead of being entitled to have everything. Each game has it's forces and flaws. If you feel other games are so much better, go play them. I'll bet you a beer that you'll come back in 60 hours.
Sorry for the rant. I'm getting tired of all this salt.
Well considering that RDR2 online is coming in next 3 weeks that is utter nonsense you are saying. I will bet real money that RDR2 will sweep the current state of ESO back and forth 100-0. Yes, it will have some bugs but that is what you expect from that just launched. Considering that ESO has been active for some years and the amount of bugs and senseless nerfs is just beyond joke to be honest.
Than again again RDR2 single player did not have any noticecable bugs and run smoothly. I guarantee that online will be just as awesome as single player. Maybe ZoS should take long look at their product.
You can rant all you want but the fact is that the hiatus is for real at ESO. The sooner you and especially the developers wake up from day dreaming the sooner the game might have hope. As for the moment is getting bad... I just log for writs and even that is getting harder day by day.
When I look my friends list 85% are awol from ESO and these people spent +5h per day playing this product until they simply got fed up. When I look at the guild lists I can see 60-70% decrease of the active players. These are the people that spend tons on crowns, played and defended this product throughs Morrowinds etc.
I told this when the 1st nerfmire patch notes hit forums.. yes.. absolutely horrific stuff. Considering the bonus that they have pretty much broken trials atm among tons of other bugs.. it all adds up.
So you might be tired of salt but if you want to have this product operational you might think that are all these people wrong? Do the game actually need these people to stay profitable? ...I would say yes but than again each of our own.
I have been grateful for years through tons of crap but enough is enough. There is always a limit and by all means lets not be salty.. lets all be grateful about these bugs and senseless nerfs... what do really think that will result to?
Why I'am even here and that propably your legit question. I still have some attachment to the product since spend tons of hours playing it and have tiny hope that ZoS will actually wake up and do something actually sensible.
Do I think that they will? ... to be honest day by day less and so does many others. This is way diffrent hiatus than previous years exodus. These people are not coming back unless major improvements (performance, fix bugs etc) and sensible balance actions are done.
Reading this maybe we both salty just for diffrent reasons.....
Really good insight, this game is good at drawing in new players, but not so good at retaining them.
The bs numbers that we'we seen, the eso hit "insert number here" those are not active players, they are player that made an account somewhere in the past.
If a new better game comes out, many will leave, because zos didn't really show that they care much, so there really isn't an incentive for people to keep playing, you reap what you sow.
If you don't care about your players, then don't be surprised if they leave in masses when a better game comes out.Edited by JinMori on November 8, 2018 7:00PM6