Musings on Oblivion

MorganaBlue · November 2018

So I got to thinking…all this talk about Oblivion in this game…maybe I found it?

My toon is broken. My CP 293 toon, the only one I have – my first time playing ESO, and my first MMO. There is everything wrong with it, from Ultimate that doesn't refill after 16 hours logged out, to skills not firing, light and heavy attacks that don’t, everything on earth that doesn’t proc when it should, regen of the whole shebang that simply doesn’t.. and gets me killed by normal NPCs in delves, XP issues and a Witches festival with double XP bonus three times out of an infinity of times in 10 days of blowing on the Witchmothers Whistle, buffs that don’t buff and debuffs that get lost in the ether somewhere, Stamina and Health bars that completely disappear in combat, etc. etc. etc. etc.

I have solicited help from support various times already after opening the ticket the first time, but I only get to talk to what must be Molag-Bal's minion BOTS that keep telling me to do the same things over and over to solve problems that never get solved by doing what they tell me to do. No humans in Oblivion? Now I’ve been informed that my ticket is being closed and they wrote “don’t panic”. I didn't panic - I reopened the ticket. LOL

All of this is pre-patches and pre-Murkmire. None of it has been fixed, but the good news is that I will be receiving my very own statue of Molag-Bal for FREE in a few days, because I’m a subscriber.

I LOVE ESO. I’m going to grip that fabulous FREE statue of Molag Bal close to my heart and yell that into the vast nothingness when I commit Elder Scrolls suicide by jumping off of the Plains of Oblivion with no bubble to catch my fall, because that’s how my ESO destiny is being forged.

My (publicly) humorous approach to the situation is intended to take the edge off of my sincere despair (and to keep me from being kicked out of the forums lol).
I cannot play the game as is, but nobody is fixing it for me. At this point I’d even be satisfied if someone took the time to tell me they can’t fix it for any reason just so I can move on with my gaming life and explore new lands elsewhere, far from Oblivion. But it would break my heart.

This self-serving effort of creative venting is meant to be read with a smile and requires no replies, much less negativity. If anyone does feel the need to post something, please acknowledge my enormous efforts to remain chill in the face of Oblivion by keeping it humorous yourself. LOL

nryerson1025 · November 2018

you need somebody to help you. you can msg me in game @nryerson1025 right now if you'd like

MorganaBlue · November 2018

nryerson1025 wrote: »

you need somebody to help you. you can msg me in game @nryerson1025 right now if you'd like

Hi, thank you so much for offering help - I sent you a message in-game. I'm on the NA server, by the way...hope it got to you!

OrdoHermetica · November 2018

Wow. That sounds like something is deeply bugged with your character on some fundamental level. Short of support helping you out - and I'd tag some of the devs here, or message them directly - your best bet would probably be to create a new character. While you'd have to level them again, and that sucks, all your CP would transfer over, so it'd be a lot faster this time around. Plus, with another double XP event coming up soon, you could do it very quickly indeed if you wanted, especially if you had folks helping you level (and I'd be willing to help by crafting you Training gear and the like).

However, a quick note about a mechanic that you mention that's working as intended, rather than bugging out: Ultimate doesn't regenerate over time. You generate it in combat - light and heavy attacks, some abilities, etc. So, if it's empty when you log out, it'll be just as empty when you log in.

Mr_Walker · November 2018

Create another toon, see if you have the same problems.

Jaimeh · November 2018

OP I admire your effort to stay humorous in the face of all those bugs... yesterday my character would swap outfits upon weapon swap, and also the ringing sound that's played to alert when an ultimate is topped up, would play at every weapon swap. It was enough to make me log out, so I can't imagine dealing with all the bugs you mentioned. ZOS has a beautiful game in their hands, but it's gets more and more unstable with every update. I wish the developers would delay new content if it meant fixing at least some of the overwhelming number of bugs that exist right now. I hope you can have your character sorted soon, so that it's at least playable and only suffers from the common issues all players experience now and again. In the meantime, have you thought of making a new, hopefully functioning, character?

MorganaBlue · November 2018

Thanks for the suggestions, and I already thought about creating another toon. And thanks also for the offer to craft armor to help me out with the leveling for that, OrdoHermetica. I have leveled all of my crafting skills except jewelry to max and crafting is one of the few things I seem to be able to still do without issues, so I could make gear for an alt myself.

Part of the problem with making another toon is that I have also maxed the Psijic line, Mages Guild, am about to max Fighters and Undaunted, found all lorebooks in at least 4 regions of Tamriel, finsihed all of the main story quests and a good number of side-quests and racked up countless achievements. I can't trash this toon to start over with no guarantees I'll find myself in the same situation a few months down the line. And I'll NEVER do the Psijic questing again, not even if someone pays me. LOL

The Ultimate issue was the first to pop up - my reason for first contacting support, and support confirms in the only message sent to me by an actual person in all this time:

" The Ultimates can be subject to conditions like other skills, such as requiring a target or being unable to use when stunned. Ultimates regenerate over time while logged out."

Mine always regenerated overnight, and then stopped.That's when I figured something was up and wrote support. It's been downhill from there....they basically told me what I already knew, and which was my reason for contacting them in the first place. LOL

I totally agree with you Jaimeh, and thanks to all for the support and suggestions.

May @ZOS_GinaBruno grace my thread and take my epic Battle against Oblivion to the attention of the divine Gods of Tech because I am at a LOSS ( .....and I spent enough money on this game to deserve to be able to play it without sacrificing my toon, to tell the honest truth

).

ssorgatem · November 2018

On Sunday I got a similar bug...
While farming a dungeon, after the final boss, when my werewolf transformation ended, I I was ported away... then I noticed I could not use any of my skills.
I could not bar swap.
It was as if I was still a werewolf, except I wasn't.
But I still had the 30% bonus stamina. And, thankfully, my ultimate did regenrate in combat.

So I tried to turn again into a werewolf... to see my stamina increased a further 30%!

And after the transformation was done... I was stil bugged, but with a bigger stamina pool!

I did this a few times to push it a little.
Got to 120k Stamina!
70k DPS on a 6M training dummy with non-meta sets.

So, I though about giving battlegrounds a try, just for the lulz.

So I joined a random battleground, killed some players with a couple light attacks as a werewolf.... but when the transformation ended I got killed... and I got fixed!

So maybe try battlegrounds and get killed?

MorganaBlue · November 2018

ssorgatem wrote: »

So maybe try battlegrounds and get killed?

I get killed a lot in delves...doesn't count? LOL

Thanks for the suggestion, and I'd gladly bargain to keep my Ultimate problem if they solve all the rest!

ssorgatem · November 2018

MorganaBlue wrote: »

ssorgatem wrote: »

So maybe try battlegrounds and get killed?

I get killed a lot in delves...doesn't count? LOL

Thanks for the suggestion, and I'd gladly bargain to keep my Ultimate problem if they solve all the rest!

I got killed in dungeons and that didn't fix it.
Only when I tried battlegrounds.

I know it's a different bug... but maybe worth trying.

MorganaBlue · November 2018

ssorgatem wrote: »

I got killed in dungeons and that didn't fix it.
Only when I tried battlegrounds.

I know it's a different bug... but maybe worth trying.

Thanks for that, I will try anything that can help me fix my problems.

Biro123 · November 2018

MorganaBlue wrote: »

Thanks for the suggestions, and I already thought about creating another toon. And thanks also for the offer to craft armor to help me out with the leveling for that, OrdoHermetica. I have leveled all of my crafting skills except jewelry to max and crafting is one of the few things I seem to be able to still do without issues, so I could make gear for an alt myself.

Part of the problem with making another toon is that I have also maxed the Psijic line, Mages Guild, am about to max Fighters and Undaunted, found all lorebooks in at least 4 regions of Tamriel, finsihed all of the main story quests and a good number of side-quests and racked up countless achievements. I can't trash this toon to start over with no guarantees I'll find myself in the same situation a few months down the line. And I'll NEVER do the Psijic questing again, not even if someone pays me. LOL

The Ultimate issue was the first to pop up - my reason for first contacting support, and support confirms in the only message sent to me by an actual person in all this time:

" The Ultimates can be subject to conditions like other skills, such as requiring a target or being unable to use when stunned. Ultimates regenerate over time while logged out."

Mine always regenerated overnight, and then stopped.That's when I figured something was up and wrote support. It's been downhill from there....they basically told me what I already knew, and which was my reason for contacting them in the first place. LOL

I totally agree with you Jaimeh, and thanks to all for the support and suggestions.

May @ZOS_GinaBruno grace my thread and take my epic Battle against Oblivion to the attention of the divine Gods of Tech because I am at a LOSS ( .....and I spent enough money on this game to deserve to be able to play it without sacrificing my toon, to tell the honest truth ).

Nah - overload has never worked like that as far as I'm aware. Mine has never regenerated - and its common practice in PVP when taking resources to just light-attack the last guards - keeping them alive so those attacks can regen ulti. I think the support guy was wrong.

ssorgatem · November 2018

Biro123 wrote: »

MorganaBlue wrote: »

Thanks for the suggestions, and I already thought about creating another toon. And thanks also for the offer to craft armor to help me out with the leveling for that, OrdoHermetica. I have leveled all of my crafting skills except jewelry to max and crafting is one of the few things I seem to be able to still do without issues, so I could make gear for an alt myself.

Part of the problem with making another toon is that I have also maxed the Psijic line, Mages Guild, am about to max Fighters and Undaunted, found all lorebooks in at least 4 regions of Tamriel, finsihed all of the main story quests and a good number of side-quests and racked up countless achievements. I can't trash this toon to start over with no guarantees I'll find myself in the same situation a few months down the line. And I'll NEVER do the Psijic questing again, not even if someone pays me. LOL

The Ultimate issue was the first to pop up - my reason for first contacting support, and support confirms in the only message sent to me by an actual person in all this time:

" The Ultimates can be subject to conditions like other skills, such as requiring a target or being unable to use when stunned. Ultimates regenerate over time while logged out."

Mine always regenerated overnight, and then stopped.That's when I figured something was up and wrote support. It's been downhill from there....they basically told me what I already knew, and which was my reason for contacting them in the first place. LOL

I totally agree with you Jaimeh, and thanks to all for the support and suggestions.

May @ZOS_GinaBruno grace my thread and take my epic Battle against Oblivion to the attention of the divine Gods of Tech because I am at a LOSS ( .....and I spent enough money on this game to deserve to be able to play it without sacrificing my toon, to tell the honest truth ).

Nah - overload has never worked like that as far as I'm aware. Mine has never regenerated - and its common practice in PVP when taking resources to just light-attack the last guards - keeping them alive so those attacks can regen ulti. I think the support guy was wrong.

Yeah, I've never seen ultimate regenerating while offline.

MorganaBlue · November 2018

Mine did regenerate overnight, maybe that was the bug? LOL! In any case, the Ultimate is the least of my problems. It refills suddenly sometimes when I transition a load screen. All the rest prevents me from doing much and needs fixing.

nryerson1025 · November 2018

I'm not sure I speak for everyone or not but OP I don't have a clue about any details of your issues and whether or not they are actually issues

MorganaBlue · November 2018

nryerson1025 wrote: »

I'm not sure I speak for everyone or not but OP I don't have a clue about any details of your issues and whether or not they are actually issues

I sent three Game Consultant report files to support and am waiting to either get things fixed if there's a problem, or be informed that there is no issue on their end. My complete hardware setup is in the reports, so if it's an issue on my end, they'll know. In the meantime, I'm open to all suggestions!

The problems are different, a couple have solved themselves, others pop up. At the moment I'm having the most issues with light and heavy attacks, animation that doesn't follow through, no damage, no regen. My stamina bar completely disappears in combat occasionally. it used to be both health and and stamina, but I got my health bar back. Assorted other stuff, missing buffs, etc.

nryerson1025 · November 2018

You should download the add-on recount to see if your light and heavy attacks are actually hitting despite not seeing the animation. ESO has this strange feature called animation cancelling which is actually a method of improving damage significantly.

As far as health and stamina bars vanishing, that sounds like an issue for sure lol. But the same add-on keeps a log of damage against you just in case you're getting hit really hard without realizing? Seems kinda unlikely though, but kinda hard to tell because at max cp my characters couldn't die in a delve if I pulled the whole thing and went afk.

ImmortalCX · November 2018

Playing ESO over dial-up is never a good experience.

kathandira · November 2018

MorganaBlue wrote: »

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Sounds like some of your issue come down to needing to update your Options Settings. There may also be some misunderstandings of optimal Champion Point distribution, as well as Skill and Equipment loadout.

If you are on PS4, you can reach out to me for assistance, and I will gladly take a look at these things with you to see if I can steer you on track.

PSN: fizzlepop-531

MorganaBlue · November 2018

nryerson1025 wrote: »

You should download the add-on recount to see if your light and heavy attacks are actually hitting despite not seeing the animation. ESO has this strange feature called animation cancelling which is actually a method of improving damage significantly

I'll take a look at recount! I know about animation cancellation - the first thing I did when I noticed things were off was some testing. My DPS with the same skills in the same amount of time has gone from 24k to 2,500. Add that to the lack of regen, and I die in delves at CP 293 every day.

I have issues with skills randomly not firing too.

ImmortalCX wrote: »

Playing ESO over dial-up is never a good experience.

LOL!

nryerson1025 · November 2018

I think everyone here knows about skills not firing but from my experience it's a pvp issue much more than pve. I would also imagine there's very little heavy attack regen at your cp to begin with, no?

I'm leaning towards agreeing with fizzlepop here. I'm still learning new things at cp1200 and didn't know anything about the game when I was in the 200s. You might just need some reworking, but obviously I don't know for sure.

MorganaBlue · November 2018

kathandira wrote: »

MorganaBlue wrote: »

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Sounds like some of your issue come down to needing to update your Options Settings. There may also be some misunderstandings of optimal Champion Point distribution, as well as Skill and Equipment loadout.

If you are on PS4, you can reach out to me for assistance, and I will gladly take a look at these things with you to see if I can steer you on track.

PSN: fizzlepop-531

Thank you so much for the kind offer, but I'm on PC. I performed a clean of the ESO addon files as instructed by the minion BOTs and ran a repair with Game Consultant, but it didn't work. I follow a build guide, Deltia's, for my Magplar, adapting it to my style and necessities. It used to work nicely!

nryerson1025 · November 2018

Ahh templar! You got jabs issues. Join the club.

MorganaBlue · November 2018

nryerson1025 wrote: »

Ahh templar! You got jabs issues. Join the club.

someone who understands! I removed jabs from my bars for the first time since I started playing

kathandira · November 2018

MorganaBlue wrote: »

kathandira wrote: »

MorganaBlue wrote: »

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Sounds like some of your issue come down to needing to update your Options Settings. There may also be some misunderstandings of optimal Champion Point distribution, as well as Skill and Equipment loadout.

If you are on PS4, you can reach out to me for assistance, and I will gladly take a look at these things with you to see if I can steer you on track.

PSN: fizzlepop-531

Thank you so much for the kind offer, but I'm on PC. I performed a clean of the ESO addon files as instructed by the minion BOTs and ran a repair with Game Consultant, but it didn't work. I follow a build guide, Deltia's, for my Magplar, adapting it to my style and necessities. It used to work nicely!

In regards to your attributes and resource bars disappearing. Have you checked to be sure that these settings are set to "Always Show"in your Combat Settings in Options?

By default, the UI has many things turned off outside of combat. If you haven't browsed these settings, I strongly advise taking a look at them. The game likes to hide information from you, and doesn't provide all information by default.

This also has to be done for each character as these settings are not account wide.

nryerson1025 · November 2018

Yeah it has the been very bad since the update. You're not alone with that issue though and I'm sure it will be addressed within the next several ...weeks? Months maybe? From what I've been reading and experiencing though, it seems like every jab issue is a unique one... So I would try to hang in there lol.

MorganaBlue · November 2018

nryerson1025 wrote: »

I think everyone here knows about skills not firing but from my experience it's a pvp issue much more than pve. I would also imagine there's very little heavy attack regen at your cp to begin with, no?

I'm leaning towards agreeing with fizzlepop here. I'm still learning new things at cp1200 and didn't know anything about the game when I was in the 200s. You might just need some reworking, but obviously I don't know for sure.

I don't exclude anything at this point, I still have tons to learn about this game, and I studied the forums and guides for a month before even beginning to play. As a fairly new player, I find it wondefully complex in some of its mechanics, and I love it because of that especially.

My CP distribution for regen goes into Arcanist and Tenacity equally, so plenty of CP into heavy attack regen, yes

ssorgatem · November 2018

Are you a vampire or a werewolf?

Because the quests for conversion temporarily override your skills; that may "fix" you issue, after completing them.

Or, in the case of a werewolf, when transforming and turning back into human(oid).

Gatviper · November 2018

Seeing as how laggy ESO has become these days in PvE and Battlegrounds (always was in Cyrodiil PvP anyway, except early years), I think some of the issues as procs not proccing, skills not firing off when pressed (clearly high connection ping issue, that's usually the case in Cyrodiil) and light / heavy attacks not going off, would be because of not the best internet connection.
Stable cable DSL connection shouldn't be that bad though, even if below 50gb (which I think is mostly the standard now), but on connections like wi-fi internet dongle ESO might get hitches, as the data transfer for this game should be a bit in the upper range among MMORPGs.