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Do people really "hate" Murkmire DLC?
Maulclaw
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It's my first time subscribing for ESO+ and so I decided to experience Murkmire since it's going free later this month, and I'm actually having a lot of fun. When it comes to Argonians, I always felt like there wasn't much about them in comparison to other races. I mean, I've learned so many new things about their culture; their actual culture rather than the typical slave lives they go through. I also got to know more about their origins and the resemblance it shares with south American tribes. My performance has taken a hit due to just how heavy the new map is, but I find it such a joy to explore and the music is also quite nice. Maybe I've missed something that made people so mad?
Edited by Maulclaw on November 7, 2018 12:45AM 7
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Aliyavana✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭People mainly hate the performance issues and balance issues that came with murkmire. I personally love murkmire as i have a bigger source of getting slaves so its a good dlcEdited by Aliyavana on November 7, 2018 12:44AM49 -
nryerson1025✭✭✭✭i find the map a little bare and all the people stealthing around dismantling plants a little silly.
but who cares what other people think? if you're enjoying it, go for it!!3 -
Maura_Neysa✭✭✭✭✭The problem with Murkmire isn't so much the PvE aspect of the new area. Its that ZoS has completely F
over so much while doing it. Instead of actually making balance changes, they just changed everything at once.
- Shield Crit, Shield Resistance and Shield cap all ating once?
- Shields effect Sorc the most, and they also removed there extra bar.
- Instead of fixing the broken jewelry traits, Swift, Harmony, Bloodthirst, they cover it up by nerfing every other source of speed
- Falcon Swiftness is no longer worth casting, Arctic Blast is now worthless.
Are a lot of changes that effect balance that have nothing to do with balancing anything. So in short, yes a lot of people hate Murkmire. However if you are new enough to not feel those changes, than you should enjoy yourself.Maiden Maura - Xbox NA
Warden Ice Tank (By far my favorite) -RIP #NerfmireStormproof, Shehai Shatterer, Mageslayer(solo tanked), Ophidian Overlord, Assistant Alienist, Boethiah's Scythe,Maw of Lorkhaj Conqueror, Divayth Fyr's CoadjutorDragon Knight Healer (Since Homestead)
MajorShehai Shatterer, Mageslayer,Warden 2x Bow DPSStormproof, Shehai Shatterer, Mageslayer, Ophidian Overlord, Assistant Alienist, Boethiah's Scythe, Maw of Lorkhaj Conqueror, Divayth Fyr's Coadjutor, Sunspire Saint,Others
PvP StamDen, Warden Healer, MagDen, Stamplar, StamSorc, DK Failed Attempt, NB Failed Attempt
Playing BiS isn't impressive, playing unique at BiS lvl, THAT's impressive.38 -
Elsonso✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I like itXBox EU/NA:@ElsonsoJannus
PC NA/EU: @Elsonso
PSN NA/EU: @ElsonsoJannus
Total in-game hours: 11321
X/Twitter: ElsonsoJannus5 -
Acrolas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The quarterly free update tends to get lumped into the quarterly content discussion, even though they're fundamentally different things.
You can't really get any sassy wordplay off the word Twenty. Not that spinning "Nerf" off of "Murk" was any more clever.signing off0 -
GreenhaloX✭✭✭✭✭
✭I hate all things swampy and murky.. and yeah, the crappy performance issues and more nerfing that came with the patch; particularly with Igneous Shield.. and yet again, Lord Almighty!!!5 -
AcadianPaladin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭When I think Murkmire, I'm reminded of the two characters I have basically shelved as a result. What made my magsorc fun and unique was her big shield - nerfed. What made my magblade fun and unique was a ton of incidental healing while doing damage - nerfed.
So, in an effort be fair to the actual game added map/questibits content I am letting the DLC rest until there may come a time when I don't get angry just thinking about the nonsensical nerfs that came with it.
I dare not mention what characters I am currently playing for fear they will get nerfed with the next DLC.PC NA(no Steam), PvE, mostly solo20 -
Gilvoth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭not me, i dont hate it at all
i just PvP.
the patch? i see nothing wrong with it.
im enjoy it.2 -
Massive_Stain✭✭✭✭It's a terrible updatePC: CP 1200+ DroDest, Bringer of light
PS4: CP 1500+ Dro Dest, SoTN, Bringer of light, CragHMs, EoF, IR, TTT
Xbox: CP 450 Fungal Grotto 1 HM24 -
Cillion3117✭✭✭✭✭A small but extremely vocal percentage hates every update and every change that comes.
Murkmire is a good addition to the game.10 -
MasterSpatula✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I'm really enjoying the content update. The gameplay update, on the other hand, should have dire results for those behind it."A probable impossibility is preferable to an improbable possibility." - Aristotle5 -
Darkenarlol✭✭✭✭✭
✭Zone and story are ok but...
-Lags worse than in FTP games
-Combat team lack in both creativity instesd of homogenisation and nerfing
AND predicting simple math consequences (enchants story with all rollbacks/renerfs
was just a pathetic showcase of total incompetence)
Just made me unsub and spending way less time in eso
With almost no trust in devs left and no hope for any changes for good
and no willing to create any builds just to see them smashed to ground
by nerfhammer every 3 months
The biggest thing nerfmire has nerfed was my willing to support the game
Looks like my fanboy pink sunglasses was nerfed too31 -
Claudman✭✭✭✭✭The changes are controversial, but the zone is good. A nice little area for the Archein to conquer.
Also, there was a lot for Argonians lorewise even prior to Murkmire or ESO (Mostly metaphysical stuff, Murkmire DID indeed cover a lot on the culture of some tribes). You just had to dig deep for it...The race that lacks unique lore in my honest opinion are the Bretons.Edited by Claudman on November 7, 2018 1:19AMWelcome, Moon-and-Star, to this place where destiny is made.
I play healers or DPS often for vet dungeons and trials (NA, CP810+). I play mostly elves or Argonians.
I primarily play Damage-Based stuff in PvP, but occasionally I'll play something tanky or got the heals.
I also love gaining more knowledge both metaphysical and mundane regarding TES lore.
I also occasionally role-play, but I prefer playing the game.2 -
Maulclaw✭✭✭The changes are controversial, but the zone is good. A nice little area for the Archein to conquer.
Also, there was a lot for Argonians lorewise even prior to Murkmire or ESO (Mostly metaphysical stuff, Murkmire DID indeed cover a lot on the culture of some tribes). You just had to dig deep for it...The race that lacks unique lore in my honest opinion are the Bretons.
Oh, the Bretons... right. Now that you mention it, I can't even think as to what real-life culture they're based on? Nords are based on the northern european countries, vikings and other norse mythology, Imperials are based on ancient european and roman cultures, Redguards are inspired by the middle east... but bretons? I have no clue.Edited by Maulclaw on November 7, 2018 1:32AM0 -
Orjix✭✭✭✭well, its all about agronains so you better believe that i hate it. only place they belong is in my fields slaving away0 -
hollywood✭✭✭Argonians are my favorite race and the Stibbons quest was priceless. So yeah , I enjoyed Murkmire very much.Arkos Fortune - Kaor - Koras Fortune - Delaia - Leorio - Niota - Nyraele - Karos Fortune - Elara Fortune - Penélope - Frolics-in-the-swamp - Arynael - Sarovius - Eranyel3 -
Claudman✭✭✭✭✭@Orjix
My Archein calls dibs on those Murkmire slaves first.
@Maulclaw AFAIK, Bretons are based of your typical Medieval Fantasty Civilization. This was because they were envisioned back in the day during TES2: Daggerfall and their themes were very old school in its nature (Play the game and you'll see what I mean)...Which is also unfortunate because they lack a lot of unique lore behind their civilization. I think the Knight stuff is cool, but we rarely ever hear about the many Knight Orders that the Bretons have or anything for that matter. They really could use a facelift lorewise.Edited by Claudman on November 7, 2018 1:46AMWelcome, Moon-and-Star, to this place where destiny is made.
I play healers or DPS often for vet dungeons and trials (NA, CP810+). I play mostly elves or Argonians.
I primarily play Damage-Based stuff in PvP, but occasionally I'll play something tanky or got the heals.
I also love gaining more knowledge both metaphysical and mundane regarding TES lore.
I also occasionally role-play, but I prefer playing the game.1 -
DaveMoeDee✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Not at all. People actually have no problem with the Murkmire DLC.
The problem is the broken way people refer to base game patches. Since they are delivered quarterly with DLC, the changes they deliver get associated with the DLC, even though they have nothing to do with the DLC.10 -
Bouldercleave✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Darkenarlol wrote: »Zone and story are ok but...
-Lags worse than in FTP games
-Combat team lack in both creativity instesd of homogenisation and nerfing
AND predicting simple math consequences (enchants story with all rollbacks/renerfs
was just a pathetic showcase of total incompetence)
Just made me unsub and spending way less time in eso
With almost no trust in devs left and no hope for any changes for good
and no willing to create any builds just to see them smashed to ground
by nerfhammer every 3 months
The biggest thing nerfmire has nerfed was my willing to support the game
Looks like my fanboy pink sunglasses was nerfed too
BUT HOW DO YOU REALLY FEEL?0 -
CrimsonGTX✭✭✭As far as content, its ok. I don't care much for the swap area or Argonians, i don't dislike them I just never thought much of them in the Elder scrolls series. Now as far as class/game "balance" there were unnecessary changes that were made which is where the hate comes from.Sorc & Warden Main - PC NA(CP 1k+) & Xbox NA (CP 1k+)0 -
Vixenator✭✭✭I like the zone especially the effort spent on adding depth to the Argonian culture.But I HATE this update because of the endless nerfs.9 -
Tannus15✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Almost no one complains about the content and quality of the new zones.
The questing, storylines and art work is always top notch.
It's the balance changes with either nerfs or not addressing what people see as problems with classes that enrages the community.
On top of that there were countless bugs with this update, most of the trials have had issues, some unplayable.5 -
max_only✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I have no opinion. I’m completely neutral when it comes to Argonian content.
Most of the hate you are seeing has more to do with “balance” changes.#FiteForYourRite Bosmer = Stealth
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prax07✭✭Frankly I'm never going to touch the murkmire dlc content. I have zero interest in argonians, don't like swamp areas, so this is all non-content for me. And I'm pussed at having to download a 50gb update for stuff I'll never play.1 -
kamimark✭✭✭✭Murkmire's done one good thing, it's made Shadowfen no longer the worst zone in the game.
Kitty Rainbow Dash. pick, pick, stab.16 -
firedrgn✭✭✭✭✭Its great content . It will be marred for existing players because they did major nerfs at the same time. I am still trying to make mag sorc work so i have not had time to play murkmire as much as i want.
This is unfortunate.
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